iOS vs Android vs Blackberry 6.0 vs WM7 fight!

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

just out of curiosity, i left an angry birds game with the bird mid flight. i've done this several times while quickly switching back and forth, and it's always picked up right where I exited, but i've never tried it for an extended period of time.

I'm going to try it all night and see what happens. left a couple other apps in a particular state as well (pulse on a story, calendar event open, imdb app on a particular page, remote desktop app connected to my desktop)

i'll check it out in the morning. this is on a nexus one.

I'm going to bet that 512mb helps a LOT. The Droid goes down to like 30mb free typically. I've seen Nexus Ones with like 200mb free. I get very jealous.

I'm not talking about Angry Birds for an extended period either. I'm talking like 3 seconds and itll exit the app on my Milestone. On the other hand Angry Birds Seasons was open from.. like Saturday noon or something and it still kept it open on my iPod Touch.

 

[vshah]

I'm going to bet that 512mb helps a LOT. The Droid goes down to like 30mb free typically. I've seen Nexus Ones with like 200mb free. I get very jealous.

I'm not talking about Angry Birds for an extended period either. I'm talking like 3 seconds and itll exit the app on my Milestone. On the other hand Angry Birds Seasons was open from.. like Saturday noon or something and it still kept it open on my iPod Touch.

check my update. the curious thing is that remote rdp stayed open all night and connected to my pc (even though it was running in the background). it actually uses more memory than angry birds...so perhaps it is a difference in the way the two apps are coded on android.

 

[DivideBYZero]

check my update. the curious thing is that remote rdp stayed open all night and connected to my pc (even though it was running in the background). it actually uses more memory than angry birds...so perhaps it is a difference in the way the two apps are coded on android.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. On Android and BlackBerry the Dev has the choice whether to save state or run on in the background. For example, if I run Need For Speed:Shift on my Storm 2, an OpenGL game, it will save state. This is not a bad thing as I can run several OpenGL based games at the same time, yet each on it's own will run smooth. If they all ran, the device would grind to a halt. On teh other hand apps like What's App, Viigo, Flip Silent, etc, i.e., apps that need to operate in the background do so, as the devs have chosen that they work in this way. With iOS, you have saved states and background APIs, and a dev must decide which of these to use. Not massively different, just a greater restriction as there are only a few APIs that can be used.

 

[finbarqs]

like that one person says, no one does TRUE multi-tasking like WebOS. Android's multitasking just reminds me of iOS's multitasking, hold a button down and see which of your 8 latest apps you've opened, without a definite way of closing the app, or accessing your original app in it's original state (Must be supported by 3rd party apps).

WebOS as far as I see, offers this, without the need to be supported by 3rd party apps. They all just work with true multitasking.

 

[DivideBYZero]

like that one person says, no one does TRUE multi-tasking like WebOS. Android's multitasking just reminds me of iOS's multitasking, hold a button down and see which of your 8 latest apps you've opened, without a definite way of closing the app, or accessing your original app in it's original state (Must be supported by 3rd party apps).

WebOS as far as I see, offers this, without the need to be supported by 3rd party apps. They all just work with true multitasking.

BlackBerry.

 

[foghorn67]

BlackBerry 6 hands down wins for ease of multitasking. Simply hold the menu button for half a second and you're at the alt-tab like menu for switching apps. The Blackberry menu also provides the quickest access to the most relevant information for whatever app you are in.

I feel like things would greatly speed up if they could move away from Java apps, but then again that is where the security comes from so it is a trade off.

You are by far, the most uneducated person that has a phone.

 

[DivideBYZero]

You are by far, the most uneducated person that has a phone.

You need to re-read the OP:

I also think that everyone has to remain troll-free, for if they do troll the rest of the forum has the right to beat their ass.

 

[finbarqs]

just saw the video, looks like WebOS, with the swipe up to get rid of the cards, and swipe left and right to switch between apps.

My ol' webOS did this, and it didn't even seem as intuitive as what WebOS does. I'm sure this OS is still behind WebOS 2.0.

 

[Munky]

I don't see the option for Symbian... and don't get me started about how "outdated" Symbian is, because WM7 just took us back 20 years when they got rid of multi-tasking and copy/paste, while Symbian had true multi-tasking for years, even before the Palm WebOS.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

I wouldn't say that Apple's implementation of multitasking is the best, but because they are not letting everything run in the background I think on a mobile device that is one of the better implementations. By giving the developer the tools to let the minimum amount of resources be used by their application, Apple is doing what they think is the best way to do multitasking.

But WebOS is one of the best implementations of notifications.

 

[Cuda1447]

Alright, so I've been using my HD7 for a couple of days now. I want to like it, I really really do. I just... don't. It feels incomplete to me. Perhaps its all the applications I use consistently on Android that I miss having on WP7? Also, I don't like that there aren't widgets. I could get over it if all my other apps are there, but they aren't.

Another gripe I have, all of the good apps available seem to cost money on WP7. Whereas, on Android there are a plethora of quality applications that are free.


On a related note: My wife whom currently uses the Iphone3g seems to really like the HD7. She doesn't use the phone for nearly as much and she finds the new HD7 fun.

 

[MrX8503]

I don't see the option for Symbian... and don't get me started about how "outdated" Symbian is, because WM7 just took us back 20 years when they got rid of multi-tasking and copy/paste, while Symbian had true multi-tasking for years, even before the Palm WebOS.

...and I can cut my hair with an axe, but that doesn't mean I'm going to. The outdated OSs of yesteryear could do a lot of tasks, but it was hardly intuitive.

 

[Munky]

...and I can cut my hair with an axe, but that doesn't mean I'm going to. The outdated OSs of yesteryear could do a lot of tasks, but it was hardly intuitive.

... but you can cut hair so much better with a shiny, polished turd.
This isn't MS-DOS we're talking about. Anyone who finds Symbian unintuitive is clearly lacking some brain cells, and would be better served with a crippled "smartphone for dummies" than a fully functional one.

 

[Sophia.Mill]

WM7, like htc HD7

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

... but you can cut hair so much better with a shiny, polished turd.
This isn't MS-DOS we're talking about. Anyone who finds Symbian unintuitive is clearly lacking some brain cells, and would be better served with a crippled "smartphone for dummies" than a fully functional one.

Symbian is intuitive because it's what the NON touch phone was supposed to be. I can't comment on S^3, but S60v3 and S60v5 = home territory for me. I know it well, and it's not a good touch OS.

It's really easy to use and I agree, features have been built in for the longest time like:

1) Wifi tethering - Seriously? Took 2.2 or root? People applauded 2.2 for this but it's still cut out by carriers AND the fact that it's nothing new anyway.

2) Full blown multitasking. Only WebOS comes close. The multitasking offered by Android to me is still a joke.

I do believe Symbian is outdated though and needs to update it's touch UI. Other than that, apps have been there for a while. It does need more apps, and a larger market. It's a tough uphill road because the app market is so crowded already

check my update. the curious thing is that remote rdp stayed open all night and connected to my pc (even though it was running in the background). it actually uses more memory than angry birds...so perhaps it is a difference in the way the two apps are coded on android.

Yeah. Angry Birds has some coding problems. It's quite slow for a game like that. Either it's unresolvable due to fragmentation or perhaps they'll fix it up. Who knows?

 

[MrX8503]

... but you can cut hair so much better with a shiny, polished turd.
This isn't MS-DOS we're talking about. Anyone who finds Symbian unintuitive is clearly lacking some brain cells, and would be better served with a crippled "smartphone for dummies" than a fully functional one.

You should see my 2 year old nephew navigate an iPhone and play games; it would blow your mind. What this tells me is that the UI is very intuitive.

The older OSs could multitask and among other things, but it cannot contend with current phones with a superior touch UI. Just as people were up in arms about the iPhone not having copy/paste and now that it does, everyone wants the same implementation.

It doesn't matter who has been doing it, who's done it first, if it sucks, it sucks. What matters is who does it the best.

 

[finbarqs]

don't know about you, but my 6 month old baby can navigate WebOS. Play Asphault 5 without any problems

 

[MrX8503]

don't know about you, but my 6 month old baby can navigate WebOS. Play Asphault 5 without any problems

I don't doubt that, but give him/her a WinMo/Symbian device...

 

[DivideBYZero]

LOL@ a six month old cognitively using any electronic device, let alone 'playing' a driving game.

 

[finbarqs]

yup. she's only 6 months old! They grow up so fast...

 

[MrX8503]

When I saw my nephew use an iPhone I thought it was cool, but at the same time it was an eye opener of just how much we have become so connected with electronic devices.

Next thing you know there will be teenagers with cellphones embedded into their heads.

 

[foghorn67]

Just wish my Droid had more system memory. I wouldn't feel the need to upgrade at all unless 4G is amazing.

 

[slag]

yup. she's only 6 months old! They grow up so fast...

My wife is 6 months pregnant. Last night I popped an Ipod touch into the womb and today it came out with all levels of Angry Birds complete with 3 stars each.

 

[akugami]

You should see my 2 year old nephew navigate an iPhone and play games; it would blow your mind. What this tells me is that the UI is very intuitive.

The older OSs could multitask and among other things, but it cannot contend with current phones with a superior touch UI. Just as people were up in arms about the iPhone not having copy/paste and now that it does, everyone wants the same implementation.

It doesn't matter who has been doing it, who's done it first, if it sucks, it sucks. What matters is who does it the best.

My daughter who is almost 2 years old currently was whizzing through the iPhone at just over a year old. She loves turning it on and looking through all the photos as well as looking at Youtube videos on it. She can play some of the simple apps on it as well as look at the storybook apps, some of which are interactive.

This speaks well for the intuitive nature of modern phone OS's compared to stuff of yesteryear like Windows Mobile and Symbian. While I'm sure that from a features standpoint some of the older OS's trump both iOS and Android but from a usability standpoint, both iOS and Android as well as the other modern mobile OS's trumps the older ones.

 

[DivideBYZero]

My wife is 6 months pregnant. Last night I popped an Ipod touch into the womb and today it came out with all levels of Angry Birds complete with 3 stars each.

Meh. I let some of my man milk at my Objective C dev environment and it coded a SatNav app with a full 3D interface.