iOS marketshare not as small as reported...

[runawayprisoner]

It seems all platform surveys lately point to Android having a bigger marketshare than any other platform. iOS included. And that's considering browser stats, sales figures, and surveys of actual people.

The problem? They didn't take into account other devices in the same ecosystem. Namely... where do the iPad and iPod Touch fit in?

It turns out: nowhere. These surveys and statistics only count iPhones. If iPad and iPod Touch were to be included, iOS marketshare would "leave Android far behind".

The Android stats are for the total platform while iOS stats are broken out into three categories: iPhone, iPad and iPod. Android has never come close to passing iOS as a whole.

More information here:
http://www.9to5mac.com/59242/platform-war-gets-ugly-as-surveys-ignore-the-big-picture/#more-59242

Moral of the story: there are more phone devices based on Android. People buy more than just iPhone, and iPod Touch seems like a huge market that no one has benchmarked.

Note: it's worth noting that the wording on charts lately say "smartphone platform" rather than "mobile platform", so it's not like these research firms are outright lying. They just aren't telling the whole truth.

 

[gorcorps]

While this may be true, I think the bigger news was that Android was beating just the iphone... which was still true for certain time periods. Android tablets are very recent and still not widespread, but there's been reports of larger Android numbers than iphone for a while now. Longer than the Android tablets have been around anyway.

Long story short, they missed the point entirely. However it's worth noting for future numbers that the Android numbers aren't separated.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Namely... where do the iPad and iPod Touch fit in?

They don't. Every survey I have seen as been regarding smartphone market share not mobile os market share. If you wsant to talk about the iPad or the iPod touch then compares them to other tablets and media players.

 

[stag3]

yea i don't really count ipads or ipods
when i see any reports usually i care only about the smartphone market

but that might just be me. i could care less about tablets, ipad or android

 

[runawayprisoner]

They don't. Every survey I have seen as been regarding smartphone market share not mobile os market share. If you wsant to talk about the iPad or the iPod touch then compares them to other tablets and media players.

Huh, problem is, pundits are taking these "smartphone" numbers and spin them as Android being the dominant "mobile OS".

"Android is outselling iPhone" is a right statement. However, "Android has more marketshare than iOS" is not.

Also you have to take into account the fact that devices like the Dell Streak and Samsung Galaxy Tab do count as phones...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

yeah. smartphone market = smartphone. not ipod touch, not ipad. plus android only came out to fight on that field. even if they have tablets now, the tablet is so ipad dominated that any attempt to throw in an ipad would just be to beef up apple's #s.

as much as these %s mean anything, i think the interesting thing to look at is admobs data and how iOS marketshare is just huge there. same with browser marketshare. this goes to show that people with iDevices actually surf and use the web a lot, while even though symbian may be #1, no one clearly uses the browser on that because it's crap.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Huh, problem is, pundits are taking these "smartphone" numbers and spin them as Android being the dominant "mobile OS".

"Android is outselling iPhone" is a right statement. However, "Android has more marketshare than iOS" is not.

Also you have to take into account the fact that devices like the Dell Streak and Samsung Galaxy Tab do count as phones...

ok but it's clear that when people are talking Android outselling iOS, it means Android Phones are outselling the iPhone. There's an unwritten line of specifics there. No one really means OS marketshare and includes the iPod Touch and iPad. They really just mean mobile phones.

Usually when people talk about Android and iOS, it's about smartphones, not about just the OS. And usually iOS talk is focused on the iPhone and not the iPod Touch, which really is the same thing. I mean look at all the fanboism here. I don't think people are spending their time bashing the iPod touch.

 

[gsaldivar]

all platform surveys lately point to Android having a bigger marketshare than any other platform

I haven't seen a single report that claims that...

 

[runawayprisoner]

Usually when people talk about Android and iOS, it's about smartphones, not about just the OS. And usually iOS talk is focused on the iPhone and not the iPod Touch, which really is the same thing. I mean look at all the fanboism here. I don't think people are spending their time bashing the iPod touch.

Well, here, it's clear that if you mention iOS, it's the OS. And if you mention iPhone, it's iPhone, and if it's iPad, it's iPad. I'm not sure where you are getting that iOS is iPhone?

I haven't seen a single report that claims that...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382985,00.asp

http://www.androidguys.com/2011/03/31/android-double-market-share-2016/

Google search will show you more.

 

[sciwizam]

CHART OF THE DAY: Android Blows Past iPhone -- Even If You Include iPod Touch

 

[SunnyD]

Pointing out obvious bias:

More information here:
http://www.9to5mac.com/59242/platform-war-gets-ugly-as-surveys-ignore-the-big-picture/#more-59242

Once again, for clarity:

9to5mac.com

In case it wasn't obvious, fromt he very bottom of their website:

9to5 Mac are writers from New York, Los Angeles and Europe. We think about Apple all day and our mission is to break Apple news quicker, more accurately and with more sources than any other Apple site.

Keeping in mind I seriously doubt the android numbers also include the ENTIRE range of phone, MOBILE and more importantly EMBEDDED devices the android platform is used on. Did you know that HP uses Android as a printer OS on some models of printer? Bet you didn't...

Obvious bias and zealous fanboyism detected.

 

[Dulanic]

Most people should know Apple has more overall market share and I doubt anyone is arguing otherwise. Also, any person who has read much on the stats also knows Android phones are outselling iPhones if you are comparing this on a phone level. This isn't an OS pissing match. This is also from a completely bias site and bias OP. Besides, we have had many of these threads before. And...

 

[Deeko]

Meh...who cares? Developers are smart enough to know which platform is their best bet.

 

[runawayprisoner]

CHART OF THE DAY: Android Blows Past iPhone -- Even If You Include iPod Touch

Where is the iPad?

Keeping in mind I seriously doubt the android numbers also include the ENTIRE range of phone, MOBILE and more importantly EMBEDDED devices the android platform is used on. Did you know that HP uses Android as a printer OS on some models of printer? Bet you didn't...

Obvious bias and zealous fanboyism detected.

Well, you didn't know that anything before Android 3.0 Honeycomb, whenever the default browser is used, will identify itself as a mobile phone, did you?

And what does a website's primary reporting role has to do with accuracy of information it presents?

Most people should know Apple has more overall market share and I doubt anyone is arguing otherwise. Also, any person who has read much on the stats also knows Android phones are outselling iPhones if you are comparing this on a phone level. This isn't an OS pissing match. This is also from a completely bias site and bias OP. Besides, we have had many of these threads before. And...

Well, excuse me, but calling someone out on bias is not a good way to discuss something. I'm trying to have a discussion, not an argument. What I like or what the sites I linked to tend to favor is not very relevant to this discussion, which is about actual numbers and not of preference.

And of course it isn't about which OS is better. It's about statements that have been flung around lately.

Edit: in case it's still not very clear to some of you, the thread's name, and I believe, purpose is to discuss this: "iOS marketshare not as small as reported". It's not about "iOS is better than Android" or "Android not as big as reported".

 

[SunnyD]

Well, you didn't know that anything before Android 3.0 Honeycomb, whenever the default browser is used, will identify itself as a mobile phone, did you?

Thank you. Please come again.

And what does a website's primary reporting role has to do with accuracy of information it presents?

Really? You couldn't possibly have asked that question with a straight face...

 

[Mopetar]

Meh...who cares? Developers are smart enough to know which platform is their best bet.

Yes, unless you're considering development for one of these platforms or work for Google or Apple, why should anyone even care about who has more market share?

 

[Deeko]

Yes, unless you're considering development for one of these platforms or work for Google or Apple, why should anyone even care about who has more market share?

Fanboyism. Its one thing for the numbers to be reported, they're interesting to see. Its another thing to throw fits when they don't fit what you want them to fit.

 

[theeedude]

How do numbers change if you count laptops in Mobile OS market share?

 

[RandomFool]

You'd also have to include android media players. I've heard of more than a few but have no idea if they've actually sold.

 

[runawayprisoner]

How do numbers change if you count laptops in Mobile OS market share?

Which laptop?

 

[cheezy321]

Pointing out obvious bias:



Once again, for clarity:



In case it wasn't obvious, fromt he very bottom of their website:



Keeping in mind I seriously doubt the android numbers also include the ENTIRE range of phone, MOBILE and more importantly EMBEDDED devices the android platform is used on. Did you know that HP uses Android as a printer OS on some models of printer? Bet you didn't...

Obvious bias and zealous fanboyism detected.

I now expect you to post this in every android thread that links to any of the following:

mydroidworld.com
androidpolice.com
androidguys.com
phandroid.com

etc, etc etc...

 

[zerocool84]

So an Apple biased site is counting iPod Touches and iPads in with Android phones??? Every source that we have that isn't from a biased Android or Apple site shows that Android has already surpassed iPhone a while ago. I don't know why we need another thread on this.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Well, see, it wasn't really about whether Android beat iPhone or not. It was about people making statements regarding the state of iOS as a whole.

I'm not sure why rivalry is brought in here. It was never about that.

 

[SunnyD]

I now expect you to post this in every android thread that links to any of the following:

mydroidworld.com
androidpolice.com
androidguys.com
phandroid.com

etc, etc etc...

I don't have to, because I fully expect people like you and runaway to do it for me. Obvious statement is obvious.

 

[JD50]

When people talk about Android beating iOS, I've never once thought they meant anything other than smartphones. Even when someone talks about the most dominant "mobile OS", I'm pretty sure just about everyone is thinking of smartphones, not portable music players or tablets.