invisible seti client

DIRTsquirt

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I am lookin for a set client that is not only invisible. Visually. but one that only works when the mouse and the key board aint being used.
In other words one that detects keystrokes and mouse movements. (activity) and ceases cpu utilization with like a 1 minute buffer
IE id doesnt even check to see if it can start crunching again for 1 min.
I got peeps that complain about the sluggishness that is experience when seti is running. I want it to go away. and not my ability to
run seti on these machines..
people are fickle an someone help me out?
Some of you are gonna say that it is already designed to use only spare cylcles but it isnt perfect.
I have seen sluggishness on mouse (occasionaly) and proggies that take 3 times as long to launch. shut of seti all is like greased lightning
would like to use screensaver gui mode cause it would prolly do what i want but dont wanna loose the cycles involved with that client.
any help out there for. bitching peeps may prempt me from running seti if I dont come up with something
 

conjur

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I'm running it on a P3-500 at work and don't notice any difference in speed.

I wonder if those people's PCs are maybe on a minimum of RAM? SETI CLI will use about 16MB. That's quite a chunk if they're only at, say, 64MB.
 

zaph

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DIRTsquirt, I know what you are talking about. I installed the CLI client on my system,( Tbird 1.4, 1.25 GB PC133 Ram) and everything was much slower than normal. This may be due to the fact that it is only SDR ram, but that is only a guess. I switched back to the GUI client, and even with it running all the time, there is a noticable increase in response times. The end result is that I am now crunching 3.x units/day instead of 4.x. But my apps start quicker, I don't burn coasters, and mp3's don't skip. I call it a fair tradeoff.

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Crazee

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That is really strange, I have run Seti on a some different systems and I have never seen a noticeable slowdown. I have one machine at the office that is a PII266 with 128MB RAM Win2K that doesn't run any slower than normal with Seti on it. I wonder if there is not something else that is conflicting with Seti?

As far as the coaster burning goes I noticed that with EZ-CD Creator, but I don't have the problem with Nero. One of the techs in our office runs it on a machine we have for burning images and it is an old PII333 w/128MB RAM Win2k and a 10x HP burner and it doesn't have any problems with Nero. I haven't had any system skip playing MP3s although I must say that the system I play MP3s the most on is my personal system which is a XP 1800+ 512MB RAM Win2k.
 

Robor

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I run SETI 24/7/365 on my machines, including my primary system. I have zero problems with it playing games, burning CD's, listening to mp3's, browsing the web, etc. The only problems I've noticed with the SETI cli client are the Outlook pause and pausing when using WinMX.
 

DIRTsquirt

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I am thinking those without troubles may be used to the difference..
the effect i am talking about can be demonstrated repeatedly by Launching Serious Sam SE it loads 20 seconds faster without seti running
similar effect is achieved with most fps new games
I even notice Adobe photo shop 6 seems to take longer to load.. but this I havent timed.
So in essence what you guys are saying is nothing wrong with the client . Live with it or look and see if something is wrong with your machine.
you are also saying by ommission what I am asking for dont exist?

If you are trying to sell your boss or fellow employees on keepin or installing... wouldnt it be nice to say I can install this app so it is totaly transparent the user wont even notice it
 

Kravahn

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SetiHide has a halt_if_running.txt file that will suspend processing whenever certain programs you specify are started. It doesn't halt on mouse or keyboard activity, but I think it's as close to what you want as is available. It also allows complete transparency from the user.
 

Ken g6

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If you're on Win9X, go find free version 2.2 of Another Task Manager, and find out what's taking all those cycles. If it's SETI, then go to the GUI. :(
 

Assimilator1

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Zaph
everything was much slower than normal. This may be due to the fact that it is only SDR ram, but that is only a guess
A wrong guess my friend;) ,I had a PIII 650@820 (SDRAM) ,I never had any pauses when SETI was running ,though I would turn off SETI when playing games or watching VCD's ,I'm not saying you didn't have the problem, I'm just saying it ain't cos of the SDRAM :)

DIRTsquirt
I am thinking those without troubles may be used to the difference..
In my case ,no ,there is no difference in program responses when running SETI or without ,though I do turn it off whenever I play games,watch VCD's/DVD's & defrag C Drive (where SETI is).I have never had problems burning CD's & running SETI

So in essence what you guys are saying is nothing wrong with the client .
I wouldn't go so far as to say that ,the CLI does have a slightly too high idle priority of 4 ,1 or 2 would of been nicer ,however SETI is often blamed for sluggishness when sometimes it turns out to be something else.Have you looked at a Task Manager to see what is hogging CPU cycles when you experience the sluggishgness?

Hopefully Kravahn gave you the answer you were looking for:)
 

Eltano1

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Here we go again, I'm not trying to start a war or flame anybody, but I someone has to step up to the batter box, and tell me what is wrong then with my systems, I have 1 AMD XP 1500 (with 512 DDR memory, 266 FSB), 1 PIII 1 GHZ (512 SDRAM memory, 133 FSB), 1 PIII 750 MHZ (512 SDRAM memory, 100 FSB), and another PIII 933 (OC, 512 SDRAM , 133 FSB), and ANYTIME that I have Seti running whatever I do it takes longer to load (OE comes on mind, or IE) or even to right click in my desktop, or to start Winamp, so if I have plenty of power and memory, think about those system thatonly runs in less power/memory. BTW I'm running WinXP in all of my systems.

Eltano
 

Smoke

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Eltano1,

I'm no computer expert by a long shot so I will not offer a "fix" or "analysis" of your system(s) situation(s). But just as I suggested to DIRTsquirt why don't you try the GUI Client. It can be set to only work whenever your screen saver is activated.

I'd be interested to hear your experiences while using the GUI Client. The GUI Client, while slower, is a better answer than just not running SETI at all. I have suggested the same to IndyJaws. He could slowly, one by one, install the GUI Client Screen Saver on all of his "farm" and set them to only run SETI when the computer is idle.

Give it a go Elanto1 and let's see what happens. :)
 

Assimilator1

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Eltano1
I hear what you say ,this is still an unresolved issue:( ,you have a similar rig me to ,the main difference is that I use Win98SE lite ,maybe its the OS that makes a difference?
Even when I was running SETI on my old Pentium 233MMX@266 with 64Mb of RAM (upto last week) loading up ,say IE was no slower with SETI running.
I don't really know what your problem is there:( ,wish I could help.What does the task manager show for cpu useage when you experience these slow downs?

NB
We really need to try to find an answer to this issue ,gradually more & more people are reporting this problem.............
 

Def

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I have a P4 1.6A@2.3Ghz. Seti is always running, and slows nothing down(i.e. even 3dMark2001 isn't affected by more than 20-50pts, which is inside the limits of accuracy for the test). Everything just flies. :D

It was the same way with my P3 933@980, my mom's P3 733, my friend's dual XP1800+, friend's XP1700+, Duron 1Ghz, P3 700, P3 550, etc. etc. etc.

Either I have really good luck with this(not likely), or something else is wrong with those machines. If they are OEM, I can think of a few pieces of software that tend to hog CPU cycles(all System Restore applications -XP's is pretty nice tho'-, cheap antivirus software etc.)

BTW, the only way Seti can really slow down systems is if the priority is increased from idle to something higher, there is a lack of RAM, causing the swapfile to be used extensively, or just due to the fact that there will be SOME cache misses due to Seti being loaded in there. But I doubt this would be perceptible to any human, or even most benchmarks.

Defster