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Invisible Fencing w/ a Privacy Fence...The Irony

BunLengthHotDog

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I FOUND SOMETHING THAT WORKS!!

Little Background : I have 2 dogs, a female German Shep / Chow mix, and a Beagle / Rottweiler mix (beagle body....black and tan rotty markings instead of white/black/tan). Anyhow, the wife and I just moved into our house a little over a year ago, and we brought our dogs with us. They had all been (we had 3 at one point) raised in an apartment setting, so there was no fear of them getting outside and getting hit by a car unless it was by our stupidity (letting them slip past us out the door etc). We thought that moving to a house with a good sized yard would be great for all involved. The dogs could roam about freely in the backyard, and sleep there as well....and the inside of the house would be much cleaner without the dogs being inside. What happened next is something I would try to remedy for close to a year.

We had always had the impression that the Beagle / Rotty mix (hereafter referred to as Puppy, we couldnt think of a name) was extremely strong, simply based on the fact that he could almost pull me over while on walks, potty breaks etc...nevermind my poor wife. At first everything appeared to be as we had imagined, the dogs were in the backyard all the time and were sleeping in the garage. The garage was a necassary evil for some time, since they took awhile to get adjusted to being outside all the time. I first noticed an "issue" when we had been out to dinner and a movie, we had left Sammy and Puppy in the backyard while we were out.

When we got back, I went in the backyard to check on the dogs...Puppy was nowhere to be found. I called his name numerous times, but no response. Then all of the sudden he appeared out of nowhere, but BEHIND me (I was at the swinging gate at the time). Our new accomodations had ceased to function, puppy could now get out of the yard at will, but we were still unsure as to how he was doing it. That suprise was saved for the next day. We brought the dogs into the garage for the night, and I did a full walkaround in the backyard to check for digging....I found none. Unsure of how he had gotten out, we let them in the backyard again...and things seemed to be going fine, until a family walked by acompanied by their dog on a walk. Puppy went apeshite at the sound of the dogs collar making its typical noise. What happened next is what astounded me.

Puppy then procedes to jump OVER our 6 ft. privacy fence. Keep in mind this dog has the body of a Beagle, so he is not very tall...I did not make it out to the backyard in time...and he was gone. The dog had run up to the fence full stride and jumped up on it. He then proceded to use the middle horizontal 2 x 4 as a springboard to get over the fence. It happened so fast I had little time to react. The next year had me trying trick after trick to keep him confined in the backyard. I screwed O-rings into the vertical 4x4's and ran wire between them, he just went under those. I actually attached plywood (hello trailor-trash) to the fence, angled back towards the yard....it merely slowed him a bit, but didnt stop him. I then tried a dog run chain attached to a pine tree, which quickly became a tangled mess of chain that prevented him from moving 2 ft in any direction. This kept him from jumping the fence, but also kept him from getting to his water bowl. Last ditch effort was a dog-run wire lead, and while it wouldn't get snagged as bad as the chain, it would get wrapped around various branches, etc in the yard....getting tangled etc. Then he goes and breaks the damn lead anyhow (got so twisted it actually ripped the wire in half). We had begun to lose hope that he could be contained while giving him full use of the yard.

We looked at kennels (ala Petsmart) but I refused to pay 200 bucks for a chain link square that would simply be an eyesore for anyone who looked in our yard. Then it hit me...why not try to run that invisible fencing inside the fence, that way he never makes it to the damn fence in the first place...wait...Invisible fencing, with a fence??? Ridiculous

...until I actually tried it

IT WORKS!! Puppy will not even come close to the fence as of right now (break-in training stages). In fact, he seems to steer completely clear of the little white flags that come with the kit. I am hesitant to say the war has been won, but this fight seems to be leaning towards my side of the fence (uggh, sorry). We will see what happens when another dog walks by the yard with its family in tow. I certainly hope we now have Houdini contained.

Wish us luck.
 
Very short time compared to how long it took to keep the dog in the yard. Sorry for the length of the post, but we were almost out of options, and had begun to think of giving him away...fearing him getting out and getting hurt or killed.
 
I went through that with one of my dogs 2 years ago. He kept going under my chain link fence. I tried running stakes through it to beef it up and bought 30 cinder blocks but he always found another spot. The invisible fence stopped him cold.

Shocking them is less cruel then them being dead or chained up their whole life.
 
Could you maybe put some sort of pole in the yard with a dog chain on it...only attach the chain to some sort of bearing/race setup? Like a wheel bearing? Then when he runs around it, the base of the chain moves with him so it doesn't get all tangled up. The dog has (relatively) free movement, without worrying about the chain getting constricted.

Just a thought...may be somewhat hard to set up though.
 
Originally posted by: gtsukada
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Isn't shocking the poor doggie a little bit cruel?

i would think it is better than being hit my a car or sued if it bites somebody.

My vet recommended a shock collar for dealing with a couple of problem behaviors. I had always thought they were cruel too, but they don't leave any lasting pain or injury, just a sudden unpleasant "shock." More startling than anything else to the dog. If anyone reads this and decides to get one, the key is to *NOT* let the dog associate the shock with anything other than their behavior. If they learn that they get shocked when you push the button, they'll rapidly figure out they can get away with the bad behavior when you're not around.
 
I had an invisible fence in my front yard for my dog. She learned that as soon as that thing started beeping/voice command she had to run like hell to get out of range. It never worked.
 
Originally posted by: fredtam
I had an invisible fence in my front yard for my dog. She learned that as soon as that thing started beeping/voice command she had to run like hell to get out of range. It never worked.

bahaha

I imagine a dog sneaking up on it, then charging like mad to get away



does it just continue shocking?
 
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: fredtam
I had an invisible fence in my front yard for my dog. She learned that as soon as that thing started beeping/voice command she had to run like hell to get out of range. It never worked.

bahaha

I imagine a dog sneaking up on it, then charging like mad to get away



does it just continue shocking?

No after they get a few feet away it stops. Usually there is a slight delay between the warning beep and the actual shock. She would walk up and as soon as it beeped she started running and was out of range before it would shock her.
 
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: se7enty7
Originally posted by: fredtam
I had an invisible fence in my front yard for my dog. She learned that as soon as that thing started beeping/voice command she had to run like hell to get out of range. It never worked.

bahaha

I imagine a dog sneaking up on it, then charging like mad to get away



does it just continue shocking?

No after they get a few feet away it stops. Usually there is a slight delay between the warning beep and the actual shock. She would walk up and as soon as it beeped she started running and was out of range before it would shock her.


What an awesome dog!
I wish I had the time to own a dog... I'm at work/school too much though
 
how much and where can i get an invisible fence setup? i have pretty big yard, so not sure if this will raise the costs...
 
Ha ha, that's a good story. Wife and I are thinking of fencing in our yard but we have a GOlden Retriever and she can't jump 6 feet in the air no matter how hard she tries.

I don't trust the invisible fences because regardless of how high you set the voltage on them, if a dog really wants to get out, he/she will just run right through it with a loud Yelp.

 
Glad it worked out. We thought about getting an invisible fence, but, I feared other dogs getting out and terrorizing our dog who'd then be stuck in the area more or less.
 
I knew a German Shepherd that it never worked on. She knew where the fence was, and so would get a running start so she would only get a momentary shock.
 
yeah I know of some dogs that will, particularly when a neighborhood dog is in heat or something else very exciting😀, get a running start and blast through the invisible fence. They love to run and will jsut run around the area afterwards when the grin of victory on their snouts......

If youre standing near their property when the make the break for it youll hear a very loud yelp and thats it. They made it!!!😛

Works well though for most dogs most of the time. Good dogs know their limits just like good kids. Bad dogs and bad kids, well you know....
 
how much and where can i get an invisible fence setup? i have pretty big yard, so not sure if this will raise the costs...

The biggest kit Petsafe sells will cover 4 acres

Just goto EBAY and search for "Petsafe Invisible Fence", they start at around $115.00 for 500ft of wire (covers about 1/2 an acre). They go up in price with more wire / options. We ended up getting the "stubborn pet" fence that has 5 levels of correction. The first 2 are just audible, 3 - 5 have the shock. I got popped with a Level 3 shock, my arm jerked and involuntarily threw the collar about 50 ft, it didnt hurt....just scared the hell out of me.

It does seem to be working, although I would NOT trust the fence without the privacy fence in place, he would probably get up some steam and dart through it.

However, you can set the range that the wire emits its signal to be up to 7 or 8 ft on either side of the wire. It doesnt increase the shock level (done on the collar), it increases the magnectic field output...so if they get within 7 ft of the wire, the audible alarm goes off....which also means the shock starts MUCH sooner, and the field for shock is much wider, than if it were set on the lowest level.
 
Hm. I let my dog out in the (unfenced) front yard sometimes while I'm working in the garage. This sounds like a good idea, but:

A) can I prevent the dog from walking down the driveway into the street? And

B) how do I take the dog for a walk when I want to? Obviously I want the dog to know it's okay to go out of the yard when she's with me on a leash but not on her own.
 
we went through the exact same issue that was never resolved. Sooner or later, Puppy will learn to sit next to the wire until the beeping stops (batteries die), the jump.
 
Mine was around $140 and is a stubborn extra powerfull shock collar one. I bought an extra 500ft of solid wire at lowes rather then paying their 500% markup. I wouldn't trust mine without the chain link fence backing it up. Its been up for a little over 2 years and he hasn't figured out he can drain the battery down yet and even if he did its a 9v so it would take awhile. Every 6 months or so I start leaving the collar off him during the day hoping he doesn't need it anymore but he eventually figures it out and escapes. Sometimes it only takes a day or two others it takes a month.

Noggin if you do a search for the fences most of them have a how too train the dog section and it goes over what your asking.
 
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