Investing in the Stock Market

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Knightsman

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I've been messing around with this, but am really looking at long-term stuff. One cool mutual fund I have focuses on dividend payments, to the tune of 18% a year, which a decent return for any stock/fund. Granted, it's not a "high flyer," but you get monthly dividend payments that could eventually be a source of retirement income, and the price is pretty stable. When it's down a bit, you just get to buy more shares with your dividend payments.

18% a year? What mutual fund is that?

Yeah I agree.. what fund is that delivers 18% income. Pretty much all funds delivered 18% last year and the year before.... but those werent income funds. Income funds I thought average about 8%.

If there was any fund that delivered 18% I would just put my money in there and sleep well and save a lot of time analyzing and picking stocks.

It's got to be an REIT basket that is required to pay out big dividends.

 

[dmw16]

Please suggest some good books on portfolio theory...

 

[fisheerman]

I get a lot of my small cap investing ideas from the Motley Fools Hidden Gems newsletterFool

I don't buy there req's religiously but they have come up with a few high flyers over the past 4-5 years.

Currently

LOOP
FMD
BWLD
MIDD
IIVI

are some of the stocks that I have made a killing on

-fish

 

[maddogchen]

Originally posted by: fisheerman
I get a lot of my small cap investing ideas from the Motley Fools Hidden Gems newsletterFool

I don't buy there req's religiously but they have come up with a few high flyers over the past 4-5 years.

Currently

LOOP
FMD
BWLD
MIDD
IIVI

are some of the stocks that I have made a killing on

-fish

does that newsletter cost money or is it free to sign up for?

 

[PimpJuice]

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: fisheerman
I get a lot of my small cap investing ideas from the Motley Fools Hidden Gems newsletterFool

I don't buy there req's religiously but they have come up with a few high flyers over the past 4-5 years.

Currently

LOOP
FMD
BWLD
MIDD
IIVI

are some of the stocks that I have made a killing on

-fish

does that newsletter cost money or is it free to sign up for?

It costs money. I dont know about this one but the Stock Market Advisor one is like $150/year. My buddy subscribes to it and showed me their recommendations/returns. They are pretty solid and seem to beat the S&P 500.

 

[KCfromNC]

Originally posted by: Knightsman
If there was any fund that delivered 18% I would just put my money in there and sleep well and save a lot of time analyzing and picking stocks.

If I was invested in a fund which returned 18% for the past few years, I'd be getting really nervous. These things tend to be cyclical, and 18% is way above average...

 

[Knightsman]

Originally posted by: maddogchen

Originally posted by: fisheerman
I get a lot of my small cap investing ideas from the Motley Fools Hidden Gems newsletterFool


-fish

does that newsletter cost money or is it free to sign up for?

Motley Fool has a bunch of newsletters (like 5-6) and they all cost money about $200/year. Some of them are great recommendations but some are total losers. So in the end it depends on whether you choose their winners or their losers. I have made some money on their winners and lost some on their losers. If by chance you pick losers you lose your money. So I have realized that instead of letting someone tell you what to buy, do your own research and develop your own pattern of ideas based on your risk tolerance. Then try them out. Recently, I am using Palma Research ([url]www.Palmaresearch.com)[/url] just as a confirmation prior to buying or selling. All technical analysis reports from them used to be free for last six months but they became a paid service as of Oct 1st :-( I have paid the first months subscription - lets see what happens.

 

[NAMSSOR]

hmmm

 

[Knightsman]

Anyone??? Fisheerman, Alien 42???

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Knightsman

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I've been messing around with this, but am really looking at long-term stuff. One cool mutual fund I have focuses on dividend payments, to the tune of 18% a year, which a decent return for any stock/fund. Granted, it's not a "high flyer," but you get monthly dividend payments that could eventually be a source of retirement income, and the price is pretty stable. When it's down a bit, you just get to buy more shares with your dividend payments.

18% a year? What mutual fund is that?

Yeah I agree.. what fund is that delivers 18% income. Pretty much all funds delivered 18% last year and the year before.... but those werent income funds. Income funds I thought average about 8%.

If there was any fund that delivered 18% I would just put my money in there and sleep well and save a lot of time analyzing and picking stocks.

It's got to be an REIT basket that is required to pay out big dividends.

Was hoping he'd confirm that. And if so that he had it in a 401(k) or IRA and not in a taxable account. Anyway I have Vanguard's REIT as well as Emerging Mkts Stk Idx (VEIEX) which is +42.9% ytd.

Knightsman, you interested in stocks only and not mutual funds?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Knightsman

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I've been messing around with this, but am really looking at long-term stuff. One cool mutual fund I have focuses on dividend payments, to the tune of 18% a year, which a decent return for any stock/fund. Granted, it's not a "high flyer," but you get monthly dividend payments that could eventually be a source of retirement income, and the price is pretty stable. When it's down a bit, you just get to buy more shares with your dividend payments.

18% a year? What mutual fund is that?

Yeah I agree.. what fund is that delivers 18% income. Pretty much all funds delivered 18% last year and the year before.... but those werent income funds. Income funds I thought average about 8%.

If there was any fund that delivered 18% I would just put my money in there and sleep well and save a lot of time analyzing and picking stocks.

It's got to be an REIT basket that is required to pay out big dividends.

Was hoping he'd confirm that. And if so that he had it in a 401(k) or IRA and not in a taxable account. Anyway I have Vanguard's REIT as well as Emerging Mkts Stk Idx (VEIEX) which is +42.9% ytd.

Knightsman, you interested in stocks only and not mutual funds?

I was heavily invested in Brazil, Malaysia, and Australia. Brazilian market has posted some pretty ridiculous returns. It's up over 600% in the last 5 years.

 

[Cal166]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Knightsman

Originally posted by: alrocky

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I've been messing around with this, but am really looking at long-term stuff. One cool mutual fund I have focuses on dividend payments, to the tune of 18% a year, which a decent return for any stock/fund. Granted, it's not a "high flyer," but you get monthly dividend payments that could eventually be a source of retirement income, and the price is pretty stable. When it's down a bit, you just get to buy more shares with your dividend payments.

18% a year? What mutual fund is that?

Yeah I agree.. what fund is that delivers 18% income. Pretty much all funds delivered 18% last year and the year before.... but those werent income funds. Income funds I thought average about 8%.

If there was any fund that delivered 18% I would just put my money in there and sleep well and save a lot of time analyzing and picking stocks.

It's got to be an REIT basket that is required to pay out big dividends.

Was hoping he'd confirm that. And if so that he had it in a 401(k) or IRA and not in a taxable account. Anyway I have Vanguard's REIT as well as Emerging Mkts Stk Idx (VEIEX) which is +42.9% ytd.

Knightsman, you interested in stocks only and not mutual funds?

I was heavily invested in Brazil, Malaysia, and Australia. Brazilian market has posted some pretty ridiculous returns. It's up over 600% in the last 5 years.

Care to share a bit more?

 

[Knightsman]

Originally posted by: alrocky
[Knightsman, you interested in stocks only and not mutual funds?

Yes, Al Rocky - I am invested in mutual funds in my retirement accounts (employer + 401k). I am interested in stocks. I have my own stock account (paying 28% taxes on gains less than a year) at Ameritrade. I am trying to find out what other kinds of systems are there other than news letters and technical analysis softwares like omnitrader.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Knightsman

Originally posted by: alrocky
[Knightsman, you interested in stocks only and not mutual funds?

Yes, Al Rocky - I am invested in mutual funds in my retirement accounts (employer + 401k). I am interested in stocks. I have my own stock account (paying 28% taxes on gains less than a year) at Ameritrade. I am trying to find out what other kinds of systems are there other than news letters and technical analysis softwares like omnitrader.

What do you mean by "systems"? There is fundamental analysis, technical analysis, business and sector analysis, statistical analysis...and everyone's favorite...rumor analysis. 😛

There are also plenty of derivatives to take bullish or bearish (or ones that profit with no movement) in stocks and stock portfolios as well.

I don't think you can get away w/o paying capital gains taxes tho unless you trade for a living.

 

[austin316]

check out smart money. its a great magazine and they do unbelievable analysis.

 

[Knightsman]

Thank you JJ Sole. I meant your own trading criteria - not softwares that do everything and spit out a green light/red light or something cheesy like that. Lets say you find your own trading criteria that you are comfortable with say stocks between $1B-$5B with a acertain price etc... what sources do you use to get that information. In otherwords, I am not asking for your trading criteria - I am asking about the sources you can get. Are there any companies out there that will do some analysis on request or sell us specific reports on requests. As I have mentioned before, I use my own trading criteria that has provided me some significant gains. But of late, I started using the technical analysis reports from Palma Research to act as my second opinion or confirmation for my analysis. However, they have become a paid site and although I paid the first month fee I am trying to find out about other comparable services. Please let me know if anyone uses something like this.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: Knightsman

Originally posted by: alrocky
Knightsman, you interested in stocks only and not mutual funds?

Yes, Al Rocky - I am invested in mutual funds in my retirement accounts (employer + 401k). I am interested in stocks. I have my own stock account (paying 28% taxes on gains less than a year) at Ameritrade. I am trying to find out what other kinds of systems are there other than news letters and technical analysis softwares like omnitrader.

Hopefully you'll max out your 401(k) @ $15,500 every year assuming you have decent mutual funds with reasonable expense ratios. Generally speadking you should do this before opening a taxable account. That's a basic rule of thumb so you'll benefit from years and years of tax-deferred compound growth in your 401(k) & IRAs.