Interview: Worker who taped "47 percent" Romney speech

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Zorkorist

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Why would anyone want to interview the worker that brought this film to public?

People are still bashing Bush today.

Obama needs this, doesn't he?

He needs for people to feel raped, abandoned, attacked, etc.

This is what he capatalizes on.

-John
 

Matt1970

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Romney just seemed to have a bad approach to the situation. His tone and approach seemed more to demonize the 47% he was referring to than to the tax system that caused their situation to begin with.
 

bozack

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Romney just seemed to have a bad approach to the situation. His tone and approach seemed more to demonize the 47% he was referring to than to the tax system that caused their situation to begin with.

On some level I think that the demonization is "fair" given the number of people who are able to successfully game the system, I know the libs will spout off about how it is truly a fraction of the overal "taker" population, but perception is reality, and I can't think of one person that I know who doesn't know of a few situations were they see people abusing welfare or the free ride machine.

What to me is sad is that the majority of the US seemingly is "ok" with that on some level given the last election, or they have a problem with someone calling it like it is which is why we see such an abundance of 'he is so hurtful' or 'he is so wrong" blah blah responses.

In short, do I think the quote cost Romney votes, absolutely

do I think it cost him the election, not in one bit

The liberal Robin Hood/blame Bush/Occupy movement was in fully effect and the shitty economy combined with the big bailouts for the banks and the perks those execs were getting from abuse of that had people motivated to want more stuff from the government.

Plus Romney was running the whitest ticket in the universe (well could have been worse if his running made was an old dude), so he was destined to fail.
 
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So you have some historic evidence of your own that proves that's what Mitt actually thinks and that he wasn't just pandering to a private audience?

The audience before him, was him. He is one of them. So he was mearly stating his actual beliefs not knowing he was being recorded.
 

Agent11

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Most people who were prepared to vote for mittens had already rationalized doing so. Personally I'm disappointed with Obama's 2nd term so far, although I doubt Romney would be doing any better.
 

Doppel

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That's a fair perspective, but I'd say that pandering such bullshit is the daily bread of any presidential election. Hate to say it, and I wish it would change, but money wins votes. In a close election, if I was behind closed doors (everyone seems to forget this was a private event) and though I was safe, I'd swear off the Constitution itself if a room full of multi-millionaires would give me enough money to perhaps win.

I certainly wouldn't maintain such views once in office, but the only way for a good person to fundamentally change the system is from the inside, and to do that said good people might have to endure crawling through a tunnel of shit to get there. Not saying Mitt was a good person, just that he shouldn't be faulted for playing the only viable game there is.

There is truth to this but one diff between him and Obama is that if Obama was selling the same kind of crap, he didn get caught :)
 
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I wonder if the Republicans or Romney or the Koch Brothers will try to "disappear" this guy by having him killed or try to threaten his family, etc. I would not put it below them.
 

Juddog

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LOL at the conservatives in this thread; keep it up and you'll just drive away the people in the middle even more over to the liberal side. Moderates see your behavior and it drives them away, that's what you don't seem to understand. I guess you guys want to continue to lose elections?
 

jackstar7

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But I am not though. My Constitutional rights have been violated by obama so thats why I call him a POS. If he didn't violate the Constitution I would support him

He could easily be calling you a piece of shit based on something other than your relationship to the constitution.

But I'll leave it to him to clarify if he thinks there's some value in it.

Also, if you find yourself having to say you're not a piece of shit... might be worth taking some time to see what might have provoked someone to make such an assessment.
 

piasabird

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This constitutes wiretapping.

This supposed 47% comment was in the news and it was run and rerun and talked about in both the press and the media at that time. It was run in the broadcast news and could be found on websites like CNN. This is not some evil idea thought up by republicans in a back room. It was common knowledge being discussed by the media. This is a non-news event.

How can it be wrong to discuss something that was in the News?

The most important part was that this comment is truthful. It is kind of telling that the press did not mention that this was their idea.
 
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trenchfoot

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LOL at the conservatives in this thread; keep it up and you'll just drive away the people in the middle even more over to the liberal side. Moderates see your behavior and it drives them away, that's what you don't seem to understand. I guess you guys want to continue to lose elections?

I think it's along the lines of the common folk, the 47% who Romney referred to who are the majority of this country, coming to grips with and fully realizing the fact that the Repub leadership is more than willing to protect the very rich to the detriment of everyone else, irrespective of party affiliation. That fact is becoming more and more evident among the masses and it appears the last elections show evidence of this.

Romney and Ryan outwardly championed the plight of their middle class and poor constituents with flowery rhetoric while both surreptitiously pushed hard for more tax cuts for the rich and for butchering the social assistance programs their own middle class and poor party faithful earned and rely on.

The Repub leadership's reliance on exploiting single issues that are near and dear to their base to keep them in line appears to be weakening. The concerns of their base is inexorably turning toward the possibility of losing their hard earned Social Security and Medicare benefits should their own candidates take over Washington.

Afterall, what's more important than having enough food to eat and critical medical care when death is knocking at the door?
 

Thump553

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I actually saw the interview (unlike 90% of the posters above). Some interesting things I took away from it:

1) I'm amazed the GOP smear machine never sought to discredit him with extraneous stuff from his past, like they have done so many times before

2) I'm also amazed that-according to him at least-there were no rules or instructions against taping/recording this so-called private affair (BTW piasabird, your legal opinion that this was wiretapping is absurd nonsense.)

3) As an aside he mentioned the Romney camp was opening videoing the entire thing-kind of takes away Romney's argument that he was speaking off the cuff, not in front of cameras.

I kind of doubt this guy will ever get this sort of bartending job again in his life.
 

sm625

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Obama does not have charisma. He is uptight, impersonal, cold and off putting. Fortunately for him, his opponent was even less likable and had a needy, phoney bologna personality. Even republicans didn't like him and hard the darnedest of times choosing him in the primaries.

Talking about their personalities does nothing to stop these clowns from being sent up every 4 years. Even now long after the election is over, people still miss the point that both these clowns are chosen by a corporate control system. They're both bad candidates... Arguing over who is frickin worse is like arguing over whether you'd like to be done up the butt by an acid dipped dildo or a chocolate covered scimitar. :biggrin: I make no claims as to which imagery represents which candidate. Come on, that is so far beside the point.
 

LunarRay

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I don't much care about what people say.... It is all about what they've done that holds the key to understanding WHO they are.

Especially in politics, how they've voted and what they've done in their life presents what they'll likely do tomorrow.

After learning about Romney putting that dog on the roof of his car and driving off to his vacation and the cutting of that kid's hair because he was different showed me a pretty clear picture of his mind set then and now.

That he said what he said in that video bit simply provides evidence that he will say what the audience wants to hear... It don't convince me that he'd advance that position if he had the power to do it... I'd be more convinced that he was 'Barking Mad' if he believed that the Garden of Eden was in Missouri....