Interview with AMD CEO.......

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It's certainly an interesting perspective on the events of the last 20+ years in the PC market. :) I used to get really irritated by Jerry's one-sided comments, but I'm actually starting to think that I'll miss his unique personality in the computer industry. It's always interesting to work for a company for a long time (Intel, in my case) and then read a different version of events from a different perspective. I'd have a bit of a different take some things (such as the K5) than Jerry's version in the interview but reading his interview adds perspective, anyway. Raises my blood pressure a bit, but adds perspective.
 

AGodspeed

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Too bad I was born in 83. :)

It seems to me that Jerry simply got peeved at Intel 15-20 years ago and decided to seek revenge. Looks like he's pretty happy with the way things are going with that. ;)
 

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<< It's certainly an interesting perspective on the events of the last 20+ years in the PC market. :) I used to get really irritated by Jerry's one-sided comments, but I'm actually starting to think that I'll miss his unique personality in the computer industry.. >>



Can't say I've always put much faith in Jerry's comments, but I'll sure as hell miss his unique little jabs at Intel that he managed to subtley incorprate into everything he does and every product they pull out. He's made himself into quite an amusing character.
From a purely business oriented point a view, I think Hector Ruiz is an excellent choice as his successor though and a more capable leader that Sanders.
 

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Good read, I like the final quote alot.

"Never surrender; never give up. I mean no surrender, no retreat. You know, a lot of guys say, ?We?re pulling back for now.? [They?re] full of shiet.
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Did anyone catch this?



<< The Hammer, which is an eighth-generation processor, is 103 square mm, versus our seventh generation, which is 80 square mm. [There are] 67 million transistors in the Hammer?67 million transistors in 130-nanometer technology. It?s extraordinary. >>



I remember AMD having disclosed the die-size of the Hammer before, but not the transistor count (only a vague 100 million statement for Sledgehammer which I suppose they meant the 1MB L2 cache version.)

With 67 million transistors it should be pretty given that Clawhammer will contain 512KB of L2 cache, right? And that would possibly suggest an inclusive L2 cache since the same cache will be used in the 1MB L2 version of Sledgehammer. What do you guys think?
 

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<< What?s written on your tombstone?

Never surrender; never give up. I mean no surrender, no retreat. You know, a lot of guys say, ?We?re pulling back for now.? [They?re] full of sh*t.
>>



Yup, I'll definetely miss this guy :)
 

AGodspeed

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I found this very interesting as well. It's a really good summary of the state of things for AMD. More importantly, it mentions AMD's last big hurdle to overcome, Fab space.
 

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<< We call it x86-64 [architecture]; it supports all of the x86 instructions. We?ve added 64-bit capability and instructions that Windows NT64 from Microsoft will support. This is unprecedented in history?Microsoft supporting x86 instructions other than those developed by Intel. This means anybody can run existing 32-bit applications with higher performance and move to 64-bit [applications] seamlessly. >>



so MSFT supports x86-64 now official?
 

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<< We call it x86-64 [architecture]; it supports all of the x86 instructions. We?ve added 64-bit capability and instructions that Windows NT64 from Microsoft will support. This is unprecedented in history?Microsoft supporting x86 instructions other than those developed by Intel. This means anybody can run existing 32-bit applications with higher performance and move to 64-bit [applications] seamlessly. >>



so MSFT supports x86-64 now official?
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You know, I was wondering the exact same thing.

Based on all the evidence I've seen over the last year or so, I'd say it's not at all unlikely that MS is in an advanced state of development on x86-64. Just a guess though. ;)
 

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<<

<< We call it x86-64 [architecture]; it supports all of the x86 instructions. We?ve added 64-bit capability and instructions that Windows NT64 from Microsoft will support. This is unprecedented in history?Microsoft supporting x86 instructions other than those developed by Intel. This means anybody can run existing 32-bit applications with higher performance and move to 64-bit [applications] seamlessly. >>



so MSFT supports x86-64 now official?
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They most definitely havent officially announced support.
Though it's quite possible and probably likely that AMD knows far more on that subject then we do.
 

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i know... repeatKNOW that AMD is working on a 64-bit extension OS for/from microsoft. This article almost makes it official.
Some of the intel fud/trolls liked to say Hammer wont have any OS support. But a little genie in a bottle I talked to disagrees. Its still early, but it should be ready by Hammer time. Meanwhile, you gotta love a guy who cusses in an official interview. Have seen many CEOs do that. Jerry does have a colorful personality.

A friend relayed a story to me. Jerry has little get together's he calls "Breakfast with Jerry". At these informal meetings he gets up and talks about the state of the business and basically gives a pep rally. One time he didnt realize the mic was on. This friend of mine was working the sound controls, so only he could hear Jerry, not the audience. Anyway, Jerry starts talking about the hot ass of the chic in the third row to the guy standing next to him. Then something else about her boobs. 65 years old, and still chasing skirt. Thats Jerry :)
 

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It's been known for quite some time that MS is working on an X86-64 port for Hammer. I believe the MS acronymn for the code will be AMD64. Here and here are links that Mike Magee dug up on the MSDN library database.

It makes sense. If MS doesn't provide support for the Hammer, Linux will be the only game in town with a platform that can run 32-bit and 64-bit applications at full speed. Linux can't compete yet in the desktop market, but for servers (where 64-bit apps are targeted) it means everything.
 

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AGodspeed -

Very good article! I just noticed the link now and I was pleasantly surprised. Very nice explanation of where the two companies are right now and where they are going. Thanks. :)
 

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Excellent read.

In the interview Jerry Sanders also mentions that they're working on a K9. Anybody got any scoop?
 

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Jerry Sanders also mentions that they're working on a K9. Anybody got any scoop?

It's going to be fast and expensive. :)



That perked my interest as well, although I can't find any real info on it. I don't think there is much anyhow.
 

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<< Jerry Sanders also mentions that they're working on a K9. Anybody got any scoop?

It's going to be fast and expensive. :)

That perked my interest as well, although I can't find any real info on it. I don't think there is much anyhow.
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K9 is probably in the very early stages of preliminary investigation. It takes years for a final CPU design to be agreed upon and implemented (so I've been told).
 

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K9 is probably in the very early stages of preliminary investigation

I think a lot of the patents that AMD has been generating over the last two years may not be in a product until the K9. I wouldn't be surprised if the K9 introduces dual cores along with pure 64-bit operation. From others on this board, I've garnered that CPU design to production takes around 5 to 8 years to complete. That being the case, one would expect much of the K9 to be at least conceptualized if not more...


As for Sanders, I have kind of a love/hate feeling for the guy. He has a tendency to be overly harsh toward Intel, of course my view is from the cheap seats. I guess you can love him or hate him, but you'll never be able to ignore him.