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Rage187

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destrekor said:
That's the only thing that actually bothered me.
One Redditor had a good theory: the higher-dimensional beings are basically our souls, the essence of us that exists on a higher timeless dimension, whereas we are simply the mortal 3D beings they embody.
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I like it. and yes, I agree Nolan does not unintentionally leave plot holes .
 
destrekor

destrekor

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Another theory:
Recall the tesseract closing once it was possible for Murph to understand what was required and get Plan A to work as intended. And recall Cooper understanding that the goal for all of his interactions wasn't to spoil himself, but to guide his daughter.
There may not have ever been a paradox whatsoever, because humanity survived in the end. Humanity survived through Amelia and the genetic bank on Edmond's planet, and perhaps through that future, living rather close to a black hole to study, they made their discoveries which led directly to creating the black hole in the first place. The tesseract was likely built to influence Earth so that more of humanity could survive, not just a single human and a vast collection of embryos.
Having typed that, I cannot determine if I solved the paradox, or just more plainly spelled out the actual paradox. Shit... I hate temporal paradoxes.
 
Ryland

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If the movie starts and the speaker system sucks then leave and ask for a refund. I saw it in a theatre with blown speakers so the lower volume dialog couldn't be heard.
 
Anubis

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laerol said:
I know it's an unknown, space-time and different dimensions, no science can explain it but that ending... what?

It's hard to explain what i'm confused about.

So matthew goes into the tessaract, finds himself in another dimension, communicates to his daughter in the past by pushing books AND future by manipulating the watch.

and somehow he gets out of the tessaract.

during the time in the tessaract, his daughter aged tons and built a space station on saturn, but anne is still relatively young? time didnt go past as fast as it did for her?

and he still manages to go find her, so how much time passed for anne and matthew's daughter, different times or what, i'm confused.
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basically he wormholes out of the black hole and appears in known space on "earth time" and is found by what im gonna call the "Ark" which is taking what is left of humanity to the new planet. At this moment cooper and ann Hathaway are the same age +/- a few months as the final scene she has not been on the new planet for super long. one could assume the higher dimensional us placed him there after passing on the information as there was no more need for him to be stuck in the tessaract. Assuming hes close to Saturn it should take him under a year to wormhole back to that system and fly to the planet. so they would be close to the same age. If you remember it was ~2 years from earth to the wormhole and then some number of months from the other side to the other planets

Murph is older due to the further time dilation of fling across the front of the black hole - you have to remember, cooper did the thing with the watch and she discovered it and somepoint in what is now the past, they figured it all out and are on the move, Cooper appears in what is her future but is his present because of the time dilation the point at which murphy discovers the watch is before cooper goes swimming in the black hole. if that makes any sense to you at all

also there has to be more than one "ark" as the doc said she was transferred over from another station

Rage187 said:
How can there be any humans to build the tessaract way in the future? I mean, they did it to save humans but how did they exist if they were never saved?
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yep the chicken and egg paradox
 
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Anubis

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Ryland said:
If the movie starts and the speaker system sucks then leave and ask for a refund. I saw it in a theatre with blown speakers so the lower volume dialog couldn't be heard.
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totally depends on your theater, the 15/70 IMAX I saw it at had fantastic sound

some people said things were hard to hear/to loud and such

I had none of those issues
 
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Kev

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Fritzo said:
It wasn't "boom, time is moving slower", it gradually happened as the ship was put into that environment. Also, time is relative- if everyone moved there, time would seem normal to them. Only people in other areas observing from a distance would notice the slowness of time for the inhabitants. That's how relativity works. If the planet is inhabitable other than the time dilation, there's not really any reason to pass it up.
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My point still stands. How unbelievably far away would the base ship need to be for the difference to be that drastic? Either way, a planet inside a gravity well so strong that it causes that level of timeline dilation wouldn't even be possible to exist.
 
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Genx87

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There is a possibility the beings that built the tesseract werent human. If so this civilization was a Type 4-5 with the ability to move between universes. As for why they helped us? It is possible they are compassionate. Or maybe we are an experiment for them. Or maybe it is entertainment to see if we are smart enough to take their help. A Type 5 civilization would be what we consider God. And many would consider a wormhole showing up when we need it an act of God.
 
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Rage187

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Ryland said:
If the movie starts and the speaker system sucks then leave and ask for a refund. I saw it in a theatre with blown speakers so the lower volume dialog couldn't be heard.
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that was everywhere. It is just a bad sound track for IMAX. People all over the country complained about not hearing quiet dialog over the background music.
 
CZroe

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To those asking,
his daughter was still alive 157 years later or whatever because she was in stasis. They woke her up and called in the extended family for his arrival. They explained this. She wasn't experiencing significant time dilation or whatever's out guys are talking about.

Anubis said:
Lots of people need hearings aids
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My older brother had one it had to take it out for the loud parts (IOW, most of the movie). I still had to repeat several lines to him.
 
Anubis

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CZroe said:
To those asking,
his daughter was still alive 157 years later or whatever because she was in stasis. They woke her up and called in the extended family for his arrival. They explained this. She wasn't experiencing significant time dilation or whatever's out guys are talking about.



My older brother had one it had to take it out for the loud parts (IOW, most of the movie). I still had to repeat several lines to him.
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you have that wrong, she's not 157, she's only been in stasis for 2 years, that is roughly her normal age, say something like 50-60 years after she has the EUREKA moment
 
BrokenVisage

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Didn't like the movie even a little. But after 3 hours of lame I found my way into Nightcrawler and loved it.
 
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moonbogg

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I only saw the trailer, and I had a very real nightmare of trying to swim in an ocean with waves the size of mountains. It was both amazing and terrifying. Looking forward to the movie.
 
K1052

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Anubis said:
Lots of people need hearings aids
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I sat through parts of it again in a digital house playing Dolby 5.1 and the same problems were definitely not present. Thinking it is a combination of the IMAX mix being weak on the center channel compounded by distortion issues when the setups start pushing deeper into the lower frequencies at major volume. Seems that some people running IMAX have boosted the center channel level to offset.
 
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TheAdvocate

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Watched IMAX 70mm w/ my 8 year old son. Absolute joy the entire ride home and rest of the day discussing all the science with an extremely amped kid totally plugged into and in love with one of his first experiences with astrophysics.

It's not a perfect movie, but good lord it is epic in scope and cinematography.
The Hathaway love speech was entirely hokey
. Aside from that, it was really good. Also, let me be I think the first to say that the girl who played young Murph was excellent. As a father, she tore my heart out.

One question - I may have missed this:
Why did Murph burn her brother's crops? I felt that was supposed to be obvious, but I didn't get it. That part of the scene (which was at the same time as the dock up with the damaged Endeavor) lost half its punch for me.

The story is not quite strong enough to make it an all time classic, but it deserves so many awards for individual aspects of the film.

And love it or hate it - I wish more writer/directors were as ambitions and as talented as Nolan. He is one of the few directors that makes me eager to see a movie in the cinema.
 
Ns1

Ns1

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Re^^

i thought it was because her brother kicked her out so she needed a distraction?
 
finbarqs

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I would kind of put this up there with Donnie Darko: They're both about time travel.
 
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