Interpol seeks arrest for Dubai assassins

[Jhhnn]

more buzzwords jhhnn? the only one who is paranoid is you - so afraid of ruthless fascist islamist states that you will capituluate to their every demand.

international law and human rights only matter in situations that fit your defined philosophy.


you've shown zero understand of the US/israel relation and act more or less like a hamas sockpuppet - arrogant, obnoxious...destined for failure.

no wonder israel's enemies fail at life.




what are you blabbering about?

I luv it even more when you're reduced to mindless ad homs in defense of your own ravings.

Fear and arrogance? Look at yourself, the cause you support so ardently and irrationally, and what you've offered as a reasonable way for Israel to conduct herself.

"Give us what we want or we'll nuke your business partners, lay waste to the world economy!"

Yeh, that'll win the hearts and minds of America, bet on it.

 

[Noobtastic]

I luv it even more when you're reduced to mindless ad homs in defense of your own ravings.

Fear and arrogance? Look at yourself, the cause you support so ardently and irrationally, and what you've offered as a reasonable way for Israel to conduct herself.

"Give us what we want or we'll nuke your business partners, lay waste to the world economy!"

there is nothing unreasonable about israel's policies towards iran.

im sure if the US had two iranian proxies on our border, with scud missiles pointed at our cities, responsible for hundreds of suicide attacks and 20,000 americans KIA, we wouldn't want that state to have nukes either.

and you do know under international law israel would be well within its right to attack iran today, right?

 

[Lemon law]

there is nothing unreasonable about israel's policies towards iran.

im sure if the US had two iranian proxies on our border, with scud missiles pointed at our cities, responsible for hundreds of suicide attacks and 20,000 americans KIA, we wouldn't want that state to have nukes either.

and you do know under international law israel would be well within its right to attack iran today, right?

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I would ask IHV if he was totally off the deep end nutso, but sadly we already know the answer to that question, IHV is totally off the deep end nutso.

But back to the forum thread question now that Germany has arrest one of the possible Dubai Israeli assassins.

Will Germany throw the book at him or let him go? Or will they do the normal logical law enforcement thing, put the pressure on him and try to get him to fink on his accomplishes?

Meanwhile why should we engage in pissing contests predicting what Germany will do?

 

[Craig234]

there is nothing unreasonable about israel's policies towards iran.

im sure if the US had two iranian proxies on our border, with scud missiles pointed at our cities, responsible for hundreds of suicide attacks and 20,000 americans KIA, we wouldn't want that state to have nukes either.

and you do know under international law israel would be well within its right to attack iran today, right?

So, "we can have nukes, and you can't, and we'll kill you to prevent you having them, but won't give ours up', is no problem.

What if the countries were reversed, and it were Iran who had the nukes already, tell Israel they can't have any and they'd destroy any attempts in Israel?

 

[DivideBYZero]

and you do know under international law israel would be well within its right to attack iran today, right?

Fucking do it then.

 

[Noobtastic]

So, "we can have nukes, and you can't, and we'll kill you to prevent you having them, but won't give ours up', is no problem.

What if the countries were reversed, and it were Iran who had the nukes already, tell Israel they can't have any and they'd destroy any attempts in Israel?

are you dense craig?

no one sane, including the arab states - feel threatened by a nuclear israel. in fact it's one of the few reasons why the arab-israeli conflict is suspended, for the most part.

but state like iran which has threatened the destruction of sovereign nations, and is a prolific sponsor of terrorism, as well as being ruled by crazy mullahs is not responsible to possess nukes.

so no one is killing anyone. israel has no territorial ambitions towards iran and in the event of a strike it would do its best to avoid collateral damage.

unlike hamas and hezbollah, who aim for maxium civilian casualties.

why is the left so comfortable with a nuclear iran? do you just hate israel so much that you'd be okay with a fascist islamist nuclear-capable regime simply because it opposes israel?

and don't give me that human rights bullshit.

Fucking do it then.

and risk another conflict?

it's a lose-lose situation.

a nuclear iran is just more of a loss than a physical confrontation. this is why it has used its resources to gather international support for a diplomatic resolve, but europe is so corrupted by muslim oil that it has become an up hill battle trying to get them on board.

they're more enraged by some islamists getting shot up in an "aid" ship than islamists owning nukes.

 

[Lemon law]

For the latest on the arrested suspected Dubai assassin, Poland now seeming has him and both Germany and Dubai both want him.

Of course Israel wants him to be repatriated to Israel, but I suspect they will not stand a chance.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,700507,00.html

My guess, Dubai will finally get him and put him on trial for murder.

And edit in, a quick check shows Dubai retains the death penalty for capital crimes like murder.

 

[0roo0roo]

and the un is busy condemning drone strikes, whats new.

 

[DivideBYZero]

they're more enraged by some islamists getting shot up in an "aid" ship than islamists owning nukes.

Oh, jog on. You're as thick as two short planks.

 

[Noobtastic]

Oh, jog on. You're as thick as two short planks.

So much for the enlightenment.

Sometimes I secretly wish Europe would be takin over by Muslims. 9 decades of pro-Muslim foreign policy, protecting their genocides in the UN and arming them, while using Israel as a lightening rod....just, what goes around comes around.

i guess when buses start blowing up in london then maybe they'll join the 21st century, instead of capitulating to every ruthless enemy.

somethings never change..

 

[Jaskalas]

i guess when buses start blowing up in london then maybe they'll join the 21st century, instead of capitulating to every ruthless enemy.

somethings never change..

Why would they need to blow up buses? There is no resistance to be found.

 

[DivideBYZero]

So much for the enlightenment.

Sometimes I secretly wish Europe would be takin over by Muslims. 9 decades of pro-Muslim foreign policy, protecting their genocides in the UN and arming them, while using Israel as a lightening rod....just, what goes around comes around.

i guess when buses start blowing up in london then maybe they'll join the 21st century, instead of capitulating to every ruthless enemy.

somethings never change..

What happened on 7/7? Yeah, a bus got blown up in London. What's your point? Ahh, you don't actually have one, you're just jew-raging and wishing all Europeans a swift death and the whole bloc be removed from existence. In fact, you sound just like the worst bat-shit crazy Hamas nut job that is wishing death to Israel, the very same you claim are terrorists. Odd that you sound exactly like them. Are you really so different, or are you just the flip side of the same coin?

We've had 30+ years of the IRA, funded by US citizens, yeah that means you personally, if we are to use your asinine rhetoric. You think Israeli's are the only people getting fucked by angry groups motivated by injustice, perceived or otherwise?

Take your blinkers off, boy. :hmm:

 

[Noobtastic]

What happened on 7/7? Yeah, a bus got blown up in London. What's your point? Ahh, you don't actually have one, you're just jew-raging and wishing all Europeans a swift death and the whole bloc be removed from existence. In fact, you sound just like the worst bat-shit crazy Hamas nut job that is wishing death to Israel, the very same you claim are terrorists. Odd that you sound exactly like them. Are you really so different, or are you just the flip side of the same coin?

wow, one bus bombing?

OH NOES!!!!

after occupying 2 muslim states, supporting dozens of islamic regimes and protecting them in the UN - finally britain pays the price for its foreign policy.

of course the victimhood continues. BBC shrugs off or minimizes the hundreds of bus bombings in israel, but *gasp* when britain is victim oh the humanity11!!

We've had 30+ years of the IRA, funded by US citizens, yeah that means you personally, if we are to use your asinine rhetoric. You think Israeli's are the only people getting fucked by angry groups motivated by injustice, perceived or otherwise?

IRA is green peace. and britain is an imperialist nation, and occupying irish land. IRA had no territorial ambitions towards the british mainland.

britain's occupation of ireland was more or less equal to its occupation of kenya, palestine, india, rhodesia...

britain's entire existence is predicated on the exploitation of the third world. how many millions of people died for today's powerful britain? how many?

30 million in india alone?

Take your blinkers off, boy. :hmm:

join reality boy.

britain is a joke.

 

[0roo0roo]

So much for the enlightenment.

Sometimes I secretly wish Europe would be takin over by Muslims. 9 decades of pro-Muslim foreign policy, protecting their genocides in the UN and arming them, while using Israel as a lightening rod....just, what goes around comes around.

i guess when buses start blowing up in london then maybe they'll join the 21st century, instead of capitulating to every ruthless enemy.

somethings never change..

yea its pretty f*cked, watch channel 4 or bbc news over the last few weeks and their coverage of gaza was based on the assumption and question why doesn't obama join us criticizing israel, israel is always wrong by default. it was disgusting to watch, its no better than the left wing version of fox news over there apparently.

and always the mention of the ship named for rachel corrie without showing the real rachel corrie.

as for bus bombings, lol, there have been multiple attacks and attempts since, the proportion of even second generation brits who believe 9/11 7/7 were done by the cia/jews etc is rather insane, never mind the % that believe in sharia/inability to understand freedom of speech and other nonsense is rather disturbing. They've imported a cancer and a lot of them spend their time naively defending it.

 

[Noobtastic]

as for bus bombings, lol, there have been multiple attacks and attempts since, the proportion of even second generation brits who believe 9/11 7/7 were done by the cia/jews etc is rather insane, never mind the % that believe in sharia/inability to understand freedom of speech and other nonsense is rather disturbing. They've imported a cancer and a lot of them spend their time naively defending it.

what is interesting is that after 7/7, the first thing the British government did was go to Israel.

today the london metro security detail runs off exclusive israeli policy. the country even imported mossad/shin bet operatives.

so when israel uses its resources to defend itself - bad, but when britain uses israel's resources to defend itself - good.

 

[Jhhnn]

there is nothing unreasonable about israel's policies towards iran.

im sure if the US had two iranian proxies on our border, with scud missiles pointed at our cities, responsible for hundreds of suicide attacks and 20,000 americans KIA, we wouldn't want that state to have nukes either.

and you do know under international law israel would be well within its right to attack iran today, right?

Just luv that last naked assertion wrt international law... cite the applicable passage, OK? Probably not... because there isn't any... and you wouldn't know where to find it if there was. Maybe you need to consult with your handlers... Or just pull your usual trick, challenge others to disprove what you assert to be incontrovertible truth...

OTOH, the fact that Interpol is current pursuing people wrt to the murder in Dubai would seem to indicate that was illegal, anyway... hope you're a fan of the death penalty, because your idols may end up in front of a Dubai firing squad... or maybe the perps will rollover on their Mossad masters so they can live out their days in a really comfy Dubai prison...

Pretty lame of you to even mention international law in this thread, where Israeli agents are the likely perps in the Dubai assassination, like they've been in many before...

 

[piasabird]

Hamas is a terror orgranization. They probably have lots of enemies.

 

[Noobtastic]

Just luv that last naked assertion wrt international law... cite the applicable passage, OK? Probably not... because there isn't any... and you wouldn't know where to find it if there was. Maybe you need to consult with your handlers... Or just pull your usual trick, challenge others to disprove what you assert to be incontrovertible truth...

Under Article 51 of the UN charter Israel could respond to Iranian aggression through a physical attack.

In fact, Israel could legally justify an attack on Syria or Iran mainland in response to Hamas/Hezbollah proxy warfare - just as the US attacked Afghanistan/Pakistan/Iraq/Somalia over Al-Qaeda/Taliban.

Iran is also in violation of the general UN charter, which prohibits members of UN states threatening the destruction other UN member states. In this case Iran has, in word and deed, been committed to the destruction of the state of Israel.


Iran has also violated the territorial integrity of the United States by contributing resources to anti-American/NATO operations in Iraq and Afghanistan - which is an act of war. This is doubly so for its open support for Hamas and Hezbollah which are essentially stand-ins for the revolutionary guard.


Iran also holds British and American hostages (~60 or so) in Evin prison.

Also, a nuclear armed Iran is a violation of international law period.

OTOH, the fact that Interpol is current pursuing people wrt to the murder in Dubai would seem to indicate that was illegal, anyway... hope you're a fan of the death penalty, because your idols may end up in front of a Dubai firing squad... or maybe the perps will rollover on their Mossad masters so they can live out their days in a really comfy Dubai prison...

Same old same old. Europe serves the interests of the Muslim world. Islamists and convicted terrorists run freely throughout European mainland, and Israel does the world a favor and UN calls it murder.

Israel should cut the shit and send in the predator drones into Dubai (the same Israeli drones British and Obama use freely in Afghanistan).

Maybe a couple hundred civilians might get killed...but at least it won't be murder and no passports will be forged.

Pretty lame of you to even mention international law in this thread, where Israeli agents are the likely perps in the Dubai assassination, like they've been in many before...

Hamas has a lot of enemies. Egypt and Jordan to name a view.

As far as "perp" goes, the only perp is Dubai - acting as a freeway and host for Islamic terrorists, including Osama Bin Laden who has stashed his blood money in the state banks.

 

[Jhhnn]

What Iranian aggression, IHV? Both Hezbollah and Hamas are independent entities, just as with the US and Israel. None can be held directly responsible for the actions of the other.

Threats? As if threatening to attack the facilities of a nation in compliance with their non proliferation treaty obligations isn't a greater threat than a mis-translated remark, the one about wiping Israel off the map?

And, of course, murder isn't murder, if the Mossad is doing it, as usual... That's why Interpol is searching for the perps, obviously, because, why, because the entire civilized world is nothing but mooslim stooges, right?

As usual, you whole argument follows the standard "We rock! They Suck! You Suck! Everything Sucks!" Zionist diatribe...

Not that anybody here has come to expect anything else from you, other than a truly exceptional level of malignant hatred and glorification of any action by Israel, no matter how craven or excrable it might be.

But, rave on sir, show us the true face of Zionism in all its glory...

 

[Noobtastic]

What Iranian aggression, IHV? Both Hezbollah and Hamas are independent entities, just as with the US and Israel. None can be held directly responsible for the actions of the other.

Threats? As if threatening to attack the facilities of a nation in compliance with their non proliferation treaty obligations isn't a greater threat than a mis-translated remark, the one about wiping Israel off the map?

And, of course, murder isn't murder, if the Mossad is doing it, as usual... That's why Interpol is searching for the perps, obviously, because, why, because the entire civilized world is nothing but mooslim stooges, right?

As usual, you whole argument follows the standard "We rock! They Suck! You Suck! Everything Sucks!" Zionist diatribe...

Not that anybody here has come to expect anything else from you, other than a truly exceptional level of malignant hatred and glorification of any action by Israel, no matter how craven or excrable it might be.

But, rave on sir, show us the true face of Zionism in all its glory...

Hezbollah and Hamas are not independent entities. Both are self-described extensions of Iranian foreign policy, no one in the region tries to say otherwise.

You asked for information on international law - I provided it. Considering you deny basic facts, claiming Hamas and Hezbollah are INDEPENDENT (LOLZ), makes it difficult to take any of what you post seriously.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hezbollah and Hamas are not independent entities. Both are self-described extensions of Iranian foreign policy, no one in the region tries to say otherwise.

More assertions not based in fact- give us a source for that, OK? Not the Jerusalem Post, either...

You're sloppy, IHV, very sloppy, almost as sloppy as the Mossad operation in Dubai... desperate, too...

 

[Noobtastic]

More assertions not based in fact- give us a source for that, OK? Not the Jerusalem Post, either...

You're sloppy, IHV, very sloppy, almost as sloppy as the Mossad operation in Dubai... desperate, too...

want to respond to my post in its entirety?

i've provided plenty of sources for my content. i provided sources when you challenged israel's right to attack iran through international law.

you ignored that. why?

as far as hamas and hezbollah goes - like i said, common knowledge.

here, i'll make you deal:

If I provide a source providing Hamas and Hezbollah are not independent of Iran - you never post on anandtech ever again.

 

[Jhhnn]

want to respond to my post in its entirety?

i've provided plenty of sources for my content. i provided sources when you challenged israel's right to attack iran through international law.

you ignored that. why?

as far as hamas and hezbollah goes - like i said, common knowledge.

here, i'll make you deal:

If I provide a source providing Hamas and Hezbollah are not independent of Iran - you never post on anandtech ever again.

That wasn't a source, IHV, it was obfuscation of the fact that you can't provide one wrt the claim of Iranian "aggression" against Israel.

Which all hinges on your claim that Hamas and Hezbollah are self-proclaimed "the same" as Iran, something you haven't shown to be true at all. Claims of "Common knowledge" are bunk, considering that much of what passes for common knowledge wrt Israel is a propaganda construct. It was "common knowledge" that Iraq possessed WMD's prior to the US invasion, and that they had a "reconstituted nuclear weapons program", too. Well, that is until after the invasion, when it was revealed that such claims had no basis in fact.

You routinely post propaganda as fact, then fail to back it up with anything other than your own opinion when challenged, obfuscate that as much as possible. This is no different, other than your offer of a fool's bargain, which I decline.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with the mods, or take your hateful bullshit elsewhere.

 

[Noobtastic]

That wasn't a source, IHV, it was obfuscation of the fact that you can't provide one wrt the claim of Iranian "aggression" against Israel.

Which all hinges on your claim that Hamas and Hezbollah are self-proclaimed "the same" as Iran, something you haven't shown to be true at all. Claims of "Common knowledge" are bunk, considering that much of what passes for common knowledge wrt Israel is a propaganda construct. It was "common knowledge" that Iraq possessed WMD's prior to the US invasion, and that they had a "reconstituted nuclear weapons program", too. Well, that is until after the invasion, when it was revealed that such claims had no basis in fact.

You routinely post propaganda as fact, then fail to back it up with anything other than your own opinion when challenged, obfuscate that as much as possible. This is no different, other than your offer of a fool's bargain, which I decline.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with the mods, or take your hateful bullshit elsewhere.

What are you disputing? You challenged Israel vis-vis international law/Iran, I provided explicit data and you have yet to respond.

I will quote you post explicitly (wish you'd do the same for me):

Both Hezbollah and Hamas are independent entities, just as with the US and Israel. None can be held directly responsible for the actions of the other

Your words. Do you stand by this statement?

*Hezbollah was originally financed and founded by the Iranian revolutionary guard.

*During the Lebanon Civil War it acted as a Syrian proxy, enforcing their occupation of northern Lebanon and trying to divide rivaling sunni/christian militias, as well as "resisting" the non-existence IDF presence in south lebanon.

Hezbollah's entire military apparatus is predicated on the support of Iran and Syria. The organization takes orders directly from Iran.

http://www.irantracker.org/military...e-hezbollah-relationship-tracker-2010#iranian

Hezbollah has training bases (confirmed) in Syria and offices in Iran.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9362/state_sponsors.html#p2

Hezbollah is Iran. Iranian guards were among the dead during the 2nd Lebanon War.

What goes for Hezbollah is doubly so for Hamas. It is simply the sunni answer to Hezbollah, but both share a relationship and have cooperated in the West Bank. In fact Hezbollah has infiltrated anti-Fatah Palestinians, mostly baathist sects.

Hamas managed to post 500,000,000+ government budget for 2010, a fraction of which was made from taxes:

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2010/me_hamas0005_01_05.asp

Now, who provided Hamas with all this money? Iran of course.

Iran tells Hamas and Hezbollah what to do. Israel has hit Lebanon with huge artillery in response to missiles, and Hezbollah has been very very quick to apologize - why?

Because they've just finished recovering from Lebanon 2 and don't want to sabotage the 4+ billion in re-construction dollars they received from Iran/Syria.

Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah claim to be independent of Iran - both celebrate the country and most of its leadership can be traced back to Iran and its allies.

For a Hamas sockpuppet, you don't know much about Hamas or the ME.

 

[DivideBYZero]

wow, one bus bombing?

IRA is green peace. and britain is an imperialist nation, and occupying irish land.

Israel occupies Palastinian land. :awe:

Israel is a joke.