Internet through your electrical socket?

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snoturtle

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A few towns in Western Mass are testing this out

The use the electircal lines to bring it to the neighborhoods and then wireless to get it to the houses

works good from what I hear :)
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
The city of Manassas, Va., went a different route to provide its citizens with high-speed Internet. The city has started offering broadband over power lines, or BPL. The service is piped right through electrical wall sockets.

Yeah great ****** idea.

$10 says this idea lasts about as long as the first person to get electrocuted ;)

This idea has been around for years, EVERYONE has powerlines, and they have a lot of potential bandwidth available due to being insulated copper. Where's the downside? Your logic is like saying people shouldn't use lamps either because they're too dumb to use the safely.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
The city of Manassas, Va., went a different route to provide its citizens with high-speed Internet. The city has started offering broadband over power lines, or BPL. The service is piped right through electrical wall sockets.

Yeah great ****** idea.

$10 says this idea lasts about as long as the first person to get electrocuted ;)

Did you saw the same thing when toasters and lamps were invented? :confused:
 

Alchemist99

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I have to say the op is not to bright, for one people have used power outlets for quite a long time, so why would would there be a problem now? and also the infrastructure is already in place with much larger potential capacity. oh well some people just don't see the obvious.
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: Alchemist99
I have to say the op is not to bright, for one people have used power outlets for quite a long time, so why would would there be a problem now? and also the infrastructure is already in place with much larger potential capacity. oh well some people just don't see the obvious.

agreed. the future of the internet is wireless and bpl
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
The city of Manassas, Va., went a different route to provide its citizens with high-speed Internet. The city has started offering broadband over power lines, or BPL. The service is piped right through electrical wall sockets.

Yeah great ****** idea.

$10 says this idea lasts about as long as the first person to get electrocuted ;)

It's already in Ontario, Canada... and i don't see it going away.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
don't you need a separate set of power lines and an ethernet controller that accepts power plugs instead of cat 5? what's the point?

Uhh... can you plug Cat 5 into your coax jack for cable internet? Or how about your phone line for DSL? :confused:
 

waggy

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I wish they would do that here in Il.

I really wish i had a option besides Satalite.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
The city of Manassas, Va., went a different route to provide its citizens with high-speed Internet. The city has started offering broadband over power lines, or BPL. The service is piped right through electrical wall sockets.

Yeah great ****** idea.

$10 says this idea lasts about as long as the first person to get electrocuted ;)

Did you saw the same thing when toasters and lamps were invented? :confused:
Tesla went around the country shocking sheep with toasters and lamps.
 

Rastus

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How do they get the signal through transformers?

Do they send the signal down both phases of your house? If it's only on one, then only about half of the sockets will have internet.

When you turn the blender on, will you hear it in your streaming pr9n? ;)
 

dmcowen674

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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
The city of Manassas, Va., went a different route to provide its citizens with high-speed Internet. The city has started offering broadband over power lines, or BPL. The service is piped right through electrical wall sockets.

Yeah great ****** idea.

$10 says this idea lasts about as long as the first person to get electrocuted ;)

Modulation & Isolation is your friend.

Seriously, haven't you've been to a Hotel where they have been using Ethernet over power for years???
 

saahmed

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Sounds like a great idea if it works and is fast. But, I havent heard much about it.
 

Pliablemoose

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Texas-based utility TXU Electric Delivery, the nation?s sixth large electric transmission and distribution company and a subsidiary of TXU Corp., and CURRENT Communications Group, LLC have announced an agreement to transform TXU?s power distribution network into the nation?s first broadband-enabled ?smart? electric grid. Key elements of the announcement include the following:

* CURRENT will construct a Broadband over Power Line (BPL) network to serve more than two million TXU Electric Delivery customers in the Greater Dallas-Fort Worth area and in other Texas communities. Overlaid on the existing electric distribution network, the CURRENT? BPL network is designed for multiple purposes, leveraging the synergies available from a single, high-capacity broadband network:

* First, Smart Grid electric utility services provided to TXU Electric Delivery will allow the utility to manage its electric grid in real-time, resulting in more reliable power for customers and more efficient use of utility resources. TXU Electric Delivery will use CURRENT Smart Grid Services for:

o Monitoring its electric distribution network remotely and in real time
o Automated outage and restoration detection as well as outage prevention
o Automated meter reading of state-of-the-art BPL-enabled electricity meters

CURRENT BPL technology turns the existing electric distribution network into a higher value asset that will instantly feed performance data back to the utility. Simply put, it provides utilities with the monitoring and control abilities necessary for proactive, real-time management of the electric grid.
* Second, the CURRENT BPL network will offer to Texas consumers broadband and wireless services, including the triple play of voice, television and high speed access delivered across the existing electric infrastructure into outlets in the home or business. Additional value-added services are planned, including service bundles that integrate both wired and wireless communications services.

CURRENT will provide BPL network equipment and will also design, build, and operate the network, providing broadband services to consumers and businesses on both a retail and wholesale basis.

This will kick some serious ass if it works.
 

kranky

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One electric utility is getting ready to roll BPL out in one of the Pittsburgh suburbs.
 

ngvepforever2

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....I live in Manassas, VA :Q . I did know about this though, they sent me a bunch of advertisement to join but the speed ( they advertise it as 5 times faster than dial up for 20 bucks a month) is slower than Comcast's cable modem. On the other hand, comcast has been having a bunch of outages so I may give this a try and if it doesn't work I'll just switch to verizon :D

Regards

ng
 

compuwiz1

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It's a great idea, although not new. I believe it can be done. I think someday, we'll have all the Cable TV, Net, Phone and everything all in one nice tidy little square, in one place, on the wall. :D
 

CaptnKirk

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Every household is wired to receive electricity either as 115V or 220V - or a combination of the two,
depending on how the circuitry is paired of bussed.

It's not that hard to super-imppose a discrete signal on wires that are not carrying and information data at all.

Once the 'Voltage' and the 'Amperage' are filtered out, all you have to do is use a modem to de-code the signal.
Only danger is when Bubba decides to use his roach clip to steal the signal for his 'Puter and toasts his 'Nads.
 

Velk

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Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
don't you need a separate set of power lines and an ethernet controller that accepts power plugs instead of cat 5? what's the point?


No you don't need separate power lines. That's sort of the point of thing really.