Internet Problems

[Vinceisg0d]

First off, using onboard A8N-E NIC. I do not use a router.

Just recently I started getting disconnected roughly 20 minutes after I fix it. I'm currently using Shaw cable, and have phoned them and they said 'everything on our end is fine'.

Here's what happens, and how I go about fixing it.

Things start only half responding, for example- if I'm playing WC3 and I'm hosting, random people at different times will stop responding to me, if I have WoW open and an internet browser, one may work, one may not.

Eventually, everything stops responding and I get disconnected. I can try to 'repair' in network connections, disable/enable, nothing.

What I have to do, is unplug my modem (usually only for a minute) and replug it back in. I then HAVE to disable / re-enable my internet connection. Just repairing it or release/renewing the IP address does not fix it. When I re-enable, it has the 'searching' thing in the bottom corner, and it finds my connection, I try to connect, but nothing, then seconds later it 'searches' again, and finds it- this time it works.

This happens every single time.

I always have an IP, but that's it. MSN yells at me saying 'We found your IP, but we cannot find the default gateway!'

I have checked if anything is loose- nothing. I have tried four different ethernet cords all with the exact same effect.

What could be the problem?

Let me know if you need any more information. I wanna sleep and don't wanna have to fix it again, so gotta post this quick.

 

[robisbell]

if it can not find the gateway, it is definitely something outside of your control.

when you have it happen again, bring up the command prompt and type "ipconfig /release"
wait till it says it's been released then type "ipconfig /renew"
if it fails at that point, I'd most definitely say it's your ISP.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Vinceisg0d
I do not use a router.

Wow. You're brave! Hacked yet?

Grab a router. Then see if you can repro the issues.

At the least tell us you're using the XP / Vista Firewall, and it's fully on?

 

[robisbell]

why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

 

[robisbell]

a router can have bugs and be disabled just as easily, how do you think all these banks, credit card companies, and business's that are in the news because they were hacked? a router is no safer than my suggestion. the biggest way to be secure is to learn, the person is the key, but anyways.

OP, what happened when you ran the instructions I gave you?

p.s. I apologize if I make typos it's gotten a bit cold here, snows coming down.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: robisbell
a roiuter can have bugs and be disabled just as easily, how do you think all these banks, credit card companies, and business's that are in the news because they were hacked? a router is no safer than my suggestion. the biggest way to be secure is to learn, the person is the key, but anyways.

OP, what happened when you rant he instructions I gave you?

A router can be hacked, sure, but most consumer routers disable all incoming traffic by default, so it's quite safe in comparison to XP pre-SP2, which allows everything by default.

 

[Vinceisg0d]

Hm, so since I posted that it hasn't crashed.

And to the person telling me to try cmd-->ipconfing/release-->ipconfig/renew, I said I tried that in the original post and it didn't work. <--That came out rude but I didn't mean it to be.

We'll see if I crash again tonight, I'll update you.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

For the record NAT is NOT a firewall. It does some of the same features but a router does NOTHING a software based firewall cant do as well. Even a router runs software that can have bugs.

As far as the OP is concerned, if the connection is dropping and a cable modem reboot fixes it, you either have poor signal quality or a dead modem. And in most situations, both are the responsibility of your isp.

 

[robisbell]

could be, and he'd have to have them check the down and up strengths, plus the noise levels.

 

[Vinceisg0d]

I did a speed test after I reset it and it was actually higher than normal. =o

 

[robisbell]

you need to have them send a tech out, there is something not right with something on their end.

 

[daveybrat]

Sounds like a faulty cable modem to me. What brand and model of modem are you using? Are you leasing it from Shaw or using your own?

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

For the record NAT is NOT a firewall. It does some of the same features but a router does NOTHING a software based firewall cant do as well. Even a router runs software that can have bugs.

As far as the OP is concerned, if the connection is dropping and a cable modem reboot fixes it, you either have poor signal quality or a dead modem. And in most situations, both are the responsibility of your isp.

Again, all of that assumes that the sw firewall is in place, working correctly, not disabled, not exploited, etc. A router is a normal way to protect a machine from the internet.

 

[robisbell]

he reset the modem dc, every time it's the modem, not even the pc that has to be rebooted.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: robisbell
he reset the modem dc, every time it's the modem, not even the pc that has to be rebooted.

Agreed. We're talking about firewalls and routers.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

For the record NAT is NOT a firewall. It does some of the same features but a router does NOTHING a software based firewall cant do as well. Even a router runs software that can have bugs.

As far as the OP is concerned, if the connection is dropping and a cable modem reboot fixes it, you either have poor signal quality or a dead modem. And in most situations, both are the responsibility of your isp.

Again, all of that assumes that the sw firewall is in place, working correctly, not disabled, not exploited, etc. A router is a normal way to protect a machine from the internet.

A router is by far not the "normal" way to protect a machine, it has very limited protection. Take it from a network engineer, it does provide some protection, but a good software firewall is better than a home ots router any day.

 

[robisbell]

thank you and has the OP gotten the ISP to send a tech out to check levels , etc??
thats the issue, not the pc or what they do or do not have.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

For the record NAT is NOT a firewall. It does some of the same features but a router does NOTHING a software based firewall cant do as well. Even a router runs software that can have bugs.

As far as the OP is concerned, if the connection is dropping and a cable modem reboot fixes it, you either have poor signal quality or a dead modem. And in most situations, both are the responsibility of your isp.

Again, all of that assumes that the sw firewall is in place, working correctly, not disabled, not exploited, etc. A router is a normal way to protect a machine from the internet.

A router is by far not the "normal" way to protect a machine, it has very limited protection. Take it from a network engineer, it does provide some protection, but a good software firewall is better than a home ots router any day.

Please describe the protection in an new XP SP0 Windows machine, directly attached to the public network, in the 60 minutes to (potentially forever) time period prior to a new user installing SP2 and rebooting to enable the firewall.

Consumer routers have their place and stop the vast, vast majority of incoming junk. Yes, I'm sure someone can get around it, and they don't prevent outgoing data, but for incoming problems and fixing the script kiddies stuff, they're wonderful.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

For the record NAT is NOT a firewall. It does some of the same features but a router does NOTHING a software based firewall cant do as well. Even a router runs software that can have bugs.

As far as the OP is concerned, if the connection is dropping and a cable modem reboot fixes it, you either have poor signal quality or a dead modem. And in most situations, both are the responsibility of your isp.

Again, all of that assumes that the sw firewall is in place, working correctly, not disabled, not exploited, etc. A router is a normal way to protect a machine from the internet.

A router is by far not the "normal" way to protect a machine, it has very limited protection. Take it from a network engineer, it does provide some protection, but a good software firewall is better than a home ots router any day.

Please describe the protection in an new XP SP0 Windows machine, directly attached to the public network, in the 60 minutes to (potentially forever) time period prior to a new user installing SP2 and rebooting to enable the firewall.

Consumer routers have their place and stop the vast, vast majority of incoming junk. Yes, I'm sure someone can get around it, and they don't prevent outgoing data, but for incoming problems and fixing the script kiddies stuff, they're wonderful.

Describe any unpatched/non firewalled machine in this situation. Describe for me the router protection method with someone on isdn or dialup

 

[robisbell]

has the OP gotten the ISP to send a tech out to check levels , etc??
thats the issue, not the pc or what they do or do not have.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: robisbell
why would they need a router if they only have 1 machine? a good firewall/AV/AS along with Comodo is perfectly safe.

It is safe, but not as safe as a router. A router does a complete seperation between the two networks; a firewall on a local machine, unfortunately, can still have bugs, or be turned off when booting in safe mode, or be turned off by accident, or when doing an XP reinstall sans SP2, or whoknowswhat. A $15 router at CompUSA resolves that concern, and is a smart idea for people on the internet today.

For the record NAT is NOT a firewall. It does some of the same features but a router does NOTHING a software based firewall cant do as well. Even a router runs software that can have bugs.

As far as the OP is concerned, if the connection is dropping and a cable modem reboot fixes it, you either have poor signal quality or a dead modem. And in most situations, both are the responsibility of your isp.

Again, all of that assumes that the sw firewall is in place, working correctly, not disabled, not exploited, etc. A router is a normal way to protect a machine from the internet.

A router is by far not the "normal" way to protect a machine, it has very limited protection. Take it from a network engineer, it does provide some protection, but a good software firewall is better than a home ots router any day.

Please describe the protection in an new XP SP0 Windows machine, directly attached to the public network, in the 60 minutes to (potentially forever) time period prior to a new user installing SP2 and rebooting to enable the firewall.

Consumer routers have their place and stop the vast, vast majority of incoming junk. Yes, I'm sure someone can get around it, and they don't prevent outgoing data, but for incoming problems and fixing the script kiddies stuff, they're wonderful.

Describe any unpatched/non firewalled machine in this situation. Describe for me the router protection method with someone on isdn or dialup

Sentence 1: Exploited within minutes.
Sentence 2: Yep, (dialup at least) - that's an issue...so don't use dialup.