Internet ID for all Americans?

[tjaisv]

Excuse me if this has already been posted, but i didn't see it anywhere.


From http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20027837-501465.html

"President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today."


So what do you think of this?

 

[Amused]

That the left is authoritarian/totalitarian in nature and real liberals need to wake up and smell the coffee.

 

[PeshakJang]

What ever happened to the "fight the man!" Left? The Left is more The Man than anybody now.

 

[ElFenix]

i don't see how this could be abused at all

 

[dali71]

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.

Jim Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and Technology, who spoke later at the event, said any Internet ID must be created by the private sector--and also voluntary and competitive.

"The government cannot create that identity infrastructure," Dempsey said. "If it tried to, it wouldn't be trusted."

While this certainly has the potential for abuse, I'll reserve my final judgement until we see how it is actually implemented.

 

[Scotteq]

That the left is authoritarian/totalitarian in nature and real liberals need to wake up and smell the coffee.

I don't view it as a Left versus Right issue: Why? They're both Authoritarian. And they both have other items on their public agendas. Therefore there is little chance the Right will stand in the say to prevent it, either. If there is any difference to be found, IMHO one would have to check the order in which they proceed rather than a simple yes/no.


OP: To borrow an old US Military acromym: "BOHICA" ('Bend Over Here It Comes Again').



{edit} Re~read the story: I still don't trust it, but it's not supposed to be mandatory....

 

[JSt0rm]

if it stops you fucks from downloading content for free lets do it.

 

[IBMer]

That the left is authoritarian/totalitarian in nature and real liberals need to wake up and smell the coffee.

This has nothing to do with the left, this has everything to do with corporations having too much of their hand in government.

 

[Amused]

This has nothing to do with the left, this has everything to do with corporations having too much of their hand in government.

The fact that the current admin is pushing this has everything to do with showing everyone the left is NOT liberal... AT ALL.

 

[Kadarin]

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.

Jim Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and Technology, who spoke later at the event, said any Internet ID must be created by the private sector--and also voluntary and competitive.

"The government cannot create that identity infrastructure," Dempsey said. "If it tried to, it wouldn't be trusted."

While this certainly has the potential for abuse, I'll reserve my final judgement until we see how it is actually implemented.

Jim Dempsey apparently doesn't remember that Microsoft tried this with their Passport concept a few years back. Didn't work so well...

And this Schmidt guy misses the point (or is deliberately spreading FUD) that if anonymity is going to still be possible then there's no reason for such an "Internet ID" other than to increase corporate/government control over both access to content and ability to express opinion.

 

[Amused]

Never let a crisis go to waste...

 

[IBMer]

The fact that the current admin is pushing this has everything to do with showing everyone the left is NOT liberal... AT ALL.

Barack Obama is exactly every single left person in this country personified, we all control him with our mind and his decisions are our choices after a democratic vote.

 

[dullard]

The fact that the current admin is pushing this has everything to do with showing everyone the left is NOT liberal... AT ALL.

Actually, that says nothing about the left or the right. It only says anything about the current admin.

Honestly, I think this thread is mislabeled. Having people have the right to optionally purchase a safe ID number is far from "internet ID for all Americans".

 

[Amused]

Barack Obama is exactly every single left person in this country personified, we all control him with our mind and his decisions are our choices after a democratic vote.

He is the leader of the democratic party and was the darling candidate of the progressive movement.

Seriously, if I cannot use him as an example of the American left, who can I use?

 

[Jaskalas]

What ever happened to the "fight the man!" Left? The Left is more The Man than anybody now.

Big Government is always 'The Man' whether you're left or right.

 

[Jaskalas]

So what do you think of this?

It's BS, I don't want it.

 

[feralkid]

Actually, that says nothing about the left or the right. It only says anything about the current admin.

Honestly, I think this thread is mislabeled. Having people have the right to optionally purchase a safe ID number is far from "internet ID for all Americans".

Yeah, trollish thread title, and nobody bothers to read the article.

"Outrage first" rules P&N.

 

[dullard]

He is the leader of the democratic party and was the darling candidate of the progressive movement.

Seriously, if I cannot use him as an example of the American left, who can I use?

You can use him as an example. You cannot use him to describe all leftists.

Suppose a cat likes to take a bath. Then you are basically saying that therefore all cats like to take a bath. Even if that cat was the king of all cats, it is still a false conclusion. I think we covered this false logic in kindergarden, or maybe 1st grade.

 

[Exterous]

So, it's not mandatory? Then the only reason I can think that they would waste time/money on this is to lay the ground work to make it mandatory later on. It's not like there are more important things to work on or anything

We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities.

Eh? We are creating this so people don't have to remember passwords? That certainly sounds like something we need the Government involved in

 

[JulesMaximus]

Never let a crisis go to waste...

George W Bush?

 

[Red Dawn]

Actually, that says nothing about the left or the right. It only says anything about the current admin.

Honestly, I think this thread is mislabeled. Having people have the right to optionally purchase a safe ID number is far from "internet ID for all Americans".

So let me get this straight, this is about being able to opt for a Internet ID which won't be administered by the Government and people are screaming this is 1984?

I glanced over the article and I believe it said that you don't have to have one if you don't wish.

 

[JockoJohnson]

So, it's not mandatory? Then the only reason I can think that they would waste time/money on this is to lay the ground work to make it mandatory later on.

^This

 

[boomerang]

Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.

Jim Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and Technology, who spoke later at the event, said any Internet ID must be created by the private sector--and also voluntary and competitive.

"The government cannot create that identity infrastructure," Dempsey said. "If it tried to, it wouldn't be trusted."

While this certainly has the potential for abuse, I'll reserve my final judgement until we see how it is actually implemented.

Do we need it?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's optional to have it but is it prohibited to require it?

 

[JSt0rm]

we need to make sure people arent stealing. So far the internet has been like the wild west and it needs to stop.