Internet Explorer's Dirty Secrets

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Russ

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<< can you offer me a rational explanation as to why these files are here? >>



So conspiracy whackjobs can have something to fear. See this thread.

Russ, NCNE
 

MaxDepth

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And just because you "looked" at that secret file bears no direct relationship to that man acroos the street from your house looking up into your window...




(They dont Windows fer nuthin')
 

Chipset

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<< can you offer me a rational explanation as to why these files are here? >>



So conspiracy whackjobs can have something to fear. See this thread.

Russ, NCNE
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Why is it when you think outside of the book you are a conspiracy whackjob? It seems to me you are offering ad hominem attacks and nothing more.
 

juiio

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Why is it when you think outside of the book you are a conspiracy whackjob? It seems to me you are offering ad hominem attacks and nothing more.
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There is a difference between thinking outside the box and making baseless accusations about things that you don't know about.
 

joohang

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Yeah. And did you know that all Windows XP packages come soaked with anthrax and various dangerous chemicals?
 

Chipset

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Why is it when you think outside of the book you are a conspiracy whackjob? It seems to me you are offering ad hominem attacks and nothing more.
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There is a difference between thinking outside the box and making baseless accusations about things that you don't know about.
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Where did I make the accusations? Please quote me. I said Microsoft doesn't want you to see these files which appears to be true because you can't see them by default, and using the Find utility you can't see them. I said it was a security risk which does appear to be true in some circumstances.
 

ToBeMe

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<< Should I be afraid of cookies? >>


Most definately!!! Sometimes when you dunk them in milk to long they will break up and fall into the glass of milk!!!:|:|

This "secret" you speak of is highly classified......you will soon be picked up by the FBI and debreifed........so wear boxers under your breifs!;) LOL!:)

I just assumed everyone knew about this.......at least in a place like A/T!;)
 

jlee75

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Why is it when you think outside of the book you are a conspiracy whackjob? It seems to me you are offering ad hominem attacks and nothing more.
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There is a difference between thinking outside the box and making baseless accusations about things that you don't know about.
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Where did I make the accusations? Please quote me. I said Microsoft doesn't want you to see these files which appears to be true because you can't see them by default, and using the Find utility you can't see them. I said it was a security risk which does appear to be true in some circumstances.
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WTF? This is just stupid.
 

Tripleshot

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Hmmm.I wonder why there is a gif of the wolf icon from this forum in my content.IE5 folder?

Some day when I am bored out of my gourd, I will go looking in there for tidbits of my history. ;)
 

juiio

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<<

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Why is it when you think outside of the book you are a conspiracy whackjob? It seems to me you are offering ad hominem attacks and nothing more.
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There is a difference between thinking outside the box and making baseless accusations about things that you don't know about.
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Where did I make the accusations? Please quote me. I said Microsoft doesn't want you to see these files which appears to be true because you can't see them by default, and using the Find utility you can't see them. I said it was a security risk which does appear to be true in some circumstances.
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Here are your false accusations:

* "For some reason, Microsoft neither wants you to know about these files nor do they want you to delete them. "

* "Chances are these files are wasting megs if not gigs of drive space. "

* "it is a serious security issue. "
 

The Dancing Peacock

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I was able to delete mine from withing win xp with no problem. One was for my xp partition, like 5.6 mbs, one was for my win98 which was 1.3 and my 2k partition had one too. No problem deleting, i even tried to view them in word pad, but it didn't work
 

zippy

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I can't seem to find these files under WinXP Pro + IE6.

/me scratches head

Kinda confused...
 

Chipset

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Here are your false accusations:

* "For some reason, Microsoft neither wants you to know about these files nor do they want you to delete them. "

* "Chances are these files are wasting megs if not gigs of drive space. "

* "it is a serious security issue. "
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#1 Ok this is an assumption, maybe unfair. It is hard to delete index.dat because it is locked for whatever reason, I don't know why.

#2 On one of my computers these files were wasting several hundred megabytes of space. Keep in mind the disk was only 2.1 gigabytes. It made me a little pissed off.

#3 Again what if you do financial things online and other people may have access to your PC? What if you are having an online affair? What if you are just doing things that may be distasteful to other people who have access to your PC (ie porn).
 

Electric Amish

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It DOES clear when you delete Temporary Internet Files from IE.

I just watched it happen. Cookies are all that's left in both files.

amish
 

veryape

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I found a three inch section of penis in my temporary directory and I cannot delete that either. Damned Microsoft.
 

Russ

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<< I said Microsoft doesn't want you to see these files which appears to be true because you can't see them by default >>



Hundreds of files are hidden. It's to keep morons from deleting them and nuking their Windows install. Geez.



<< On one of my computers these files were wasting several hundred megabytes of space. >>



So, it's Microsoft's fault that you're too ignorant to clear your cache regularly?



<< Again what if you do financial things online and other people may have access to your PC? >>



If other people have access to your PC, then you need to either bone up on security, or get the hell off the internet.

Russ, NCNE

 

Chipset

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<< I said Microsoft doesn't want you to see these files which appears to be true because you can't see them by default >>



Hundreds of files are hidden. It's to keep morons from deleting them and nuking their Windows install. Geez.



<< On one of my computers these files were wasting several hundred megabytes of space. >>



So, it's Microsoft's fault that you're too ignorant to clear your cache regularly?
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Do you think deleting these files will cause problems with the functioning of IE or Windows?

I thought the cache was in Temporary Internet Files? My question still stands - why is there a separate cache marked as system?
 

HansXP

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LOL@Russ. Go get 'em! People who are this scared shouldn't be using a computer.
 

C'DaleRider

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Damn.........he's right...index.dat does exist in the folder.

Stranger still.....I right-clicked on it, hit delete, and it...........

disappeared!!!!


It's in my recycle bin and not in the internet folder............


wait......just moved it to E: drive..............



no, maybe I'll put it on D:......


Wait......just deleted it again............


It does delete without going to DOS.
 

Chipset

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<< LOL@Russ. Go get 'em! People who are this scared shouldn't be using a computer. >>



I'm not scared. Files don't scare me. However it does bother and anger me. Do you think the average user is aware of these files? I guess I was preaching to the quire by posting this here, however. And I do apologize for sounding a bit, err, hysterical.
 

MeanMeosh

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old news... i'm a sysadmin part time and i go through all of those directories and delete them all the time to clear up disk space. in a recent backup:

size of Documents & Settings folder before temp files were deleted: 1.8 gigs
size of Documents & Settings folder after temp file were deleted: 815 megs

to delete it, when you have win2k, login under a second name, delete the temp files dir for the first login, now log back on with the other name :p
 

Russ

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<< Do you think the average user is aware of these files? >>



The average user can barely find the power switch. Again, what is your point? Is it that there are things about a computer that the average user doesn't know? Well, golly gee whiz. That's startling.

Russ, NCNE