Internet Explorer 7 on the horizon

[Nocturnal]

According to the Yahoo! article regarding Bill Gates talking at the RSA opening conference, the article said:

Gates also said Microsoft would begin testing this summer an update to its Internet Explorer browser, version 7. The update, mainly security-related improvements, would be available only to users of the latest version of Windows ? XP with last summer's Service Pack 2 upgrade, which also came with security improvements to IE 6.

IE7 is amongst us, sooner than expected, w00t. Let's hope for tabbed browsing. If so, rool:

 

[Modeps]

This just goes to show they're feeling the heat from a better product. They had better have tabbed browsing or they're done.

 

[stash]

There are currently a number of wrappers for IE that will add tabed browsing. Maxthon (formerly MyIE2) being one.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Modeps
This just goes to show they're feeling the heat from a better product. They had better have tabbed browsing or they're done.

Almost nobody cares about tabbed browsing.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Modeps
This just goes to show they're feeling the heat from a better product. They had better have tabbed browsing or they're done.

Almost nobody cares about tabbed browsing.

While I think Mozilla/*'s main selling point is a sane default, I think tabbed browsing is an important feature these days.

 

[KoolDrew]

I agree. I ussually have a few programs open at a time and ussually have like 10-14 sites open in tabs. I definitely would not want more then 14 things in my taskbar.

 

[StevenYoo]

i love tabbed browsing.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Modeps
This just goes to show they're feeling the heat from a better product. They had better have tabbed browsing or they're done.

Almost nobody cares about tabbed browsing.

While I think Mozilla/*'s main selling point is a sane default, I think tabbed browsing is an important feature these days.

To people who use anything other that IE it is. Sorry guys, the vast majority of computer users are not using/demanding tabbed browsing.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Modeps
This just goes to show they're feeling the heat from a better product. They had better have tabbed browsing or they're done.

Almost nobody cares about tabbed browsing.

While I think Mozilla/*'s main selling point is a sane default, I think tabbed browsing is an important feature these days.

To people who use anything other that IE it is. Sorry guys, the vast majority of computer users are not using/demanding tabbed browsing.

It's risen above the "almost nobody" status. Mozilla/* is getting enough downloads these days to be considered a player.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Modeps
This just goes to show they're feeling the heat from a better product. They had better have tabbed browsing or they're done.

Almost nobody cares about tabbed browsing.

While I think Mozilla/*'s main selling point is a sane default, I think tabbed browsing is an important feature these days.

To people who use anything other that IE it is. Sorry guys, the vast majority of computer users are not using/demanding tabbed browsing.

The vast majority doesn't even know what Tabbed browsing is. It's difficult to demand something you don't even know exists.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
It's risen above the "almost nobody" status. Mozilla/* is getting enough downloads these days to be considered a player.

What you say is true, but you guys can sometimes make it sound like Firefox is taking over the browser world. That's simply not true. Neither is Mozilla. Nor is Opera. They are niche market apps at best. (In agreement with sandorski).

 

[MemberSince97]

Extremetech link

 

[Nothinman]

Almost nobody cares about tabbed browsing.

A few years ago nobody cared about Linux, these days it's every other headline even if it isn't taking the US desktop by storm. Almost nobody cares about standard transmissions either, maybe car manufacturers should stop producing them.

 

[Megatomic]

Plenty of people care about standard transmissions. Even average guys like me. I'm no car fanatic either. But I get what you're saying. Tabs are great for those that want them, it's just a fact that they are NOT a make or break feature of web browsers, not yet at least.

 

[Nothinman]

Plenty of people care about standard transmissions. Even average guys like me

And since tabbed browsing is free there's a better chance that people will migrate eventually.

 

[randumb]

They're going to need more than tabbed browsing to beat Firefox.

 

[SagaLore]

What is the point to tabs, really? That is what the task manager is for. Just open another browser instance.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: randumb
They're going to need more than tabbed browsing to beat Firefox.

They're already beating Firefox, like 10^6:1 at this time.

 

[stash]

Beat Firefox? IE has a 92% share. IE definitely needs some work, but Firefox has a looooong way to go before it becomes the browser to beat.

 

[Megatomic]

IMO, Thunderbird has a better chance of deposing Outlook (and Express) quickly than Firefox does with IE. Thunderbird is very nice, I've completely switched over here at home.

 

[stash]

They'd have to have something pretty special to move people off of Exchange.

 

[Megatomic]

You're right, but I was talking about just email clients not servers. I didn't migrate to Thunderbird from Exchange, I did from Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
It's risen above the "almost nobody" status. Mozilla/* is getting enough downloads these days to be considered a player.

What you say is true, but you guys can sometimes make it sound like Firefox is taking over the browser world. That's simply not true. Neither is Mozilla. Nor is Opera. They are niche market apps at best. (In agreement with sandorski).

Some stats from www.antisource.com:

Just August 2004
Internet Explorer - 13,675 - 75.4%
Netscape - 334 - 1.8%
Mozilla - 1858 - 10.2%
Opera - 605 - 3.3%

Year 2004
Internet Explorer - 105,196 - 70.1%
Netscape - 3,920 - 2.6%
Firefox - 12,103 - 8%
Mozilla - 11,383 - 7.5%
Opera - 4,006 - 2.6%

Year 2005 so far
Internet Explorer - 53,052 - 67%
Netscape - 1,917 - 2.4%
Firefox - 13,039 - 16.4%
Mozilla - 2,503 - 4.4%
Opera - 1,444 - 1.8%

 

[stash]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
You're right, but I was talking about just email clients not servers. I didn't migrate to Thunderbird from Exchange, I did from Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003.

The vast majority of Outlook users are businesses whose users connect to an Exchange server. Thunderbird is a toy in that market.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
IMO, Thunderbird has a better chance of deposing Outlook (and Express) quickly than Firefox does with IE. Thunderbird is very nice, I've completely switched over here at home.

I do have one issue with thunderbird that is bugging me. When I reply to messages (especially html/rich-text ones), it doesn't tag the email the same way that OE did. Instead it adds a serif fonted "Mr. John Doe said:". And sometimes the html indent lines are broken.