International treaty to criminalize file sharing

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Don't worry, we have international treaties banning torture and that doesn't stop us, so why sweat file sharing?

zing!

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: Special K
Weren't copyrights originally only supposed to give the artist/band 10 years of protection, at which point the song would enter the public domain?

I'm not sure, but it definitely wasn't lifetime of the artist+five millennia as the RIAA, Walt Disney, etc. are pushing for.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: rivan
I just wrote my senators and my representative.

senate.gov
house.gov

For or against this or anything else, I urge everyone to do the same.

If you don't speak up, you can't expect to be represented.

Unfortunately my voice isn't nearly as loud in their ears as the voices of the asswipes in Hollywood. I lack a private jet to ferry them around in.

 

[frostedflakes]

But you and millions of other non private jet owners are the ones who vote them into office. They will listen if enough people speak up (assuming they want to be re-elected, that is).

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: spidey07
I love how people that steal and pirate will fight tooth and nail to say what they are doing is somehow OK. They will frame it as "it's my right", or "intellectual property should be shared".

Swiper, stop swiping.

You do not want the government to be the ones that decide what is unauthorized information.
Once that starts you are on a slippery slope downhill with a jetpack on your back .

I absolutely agree with the slippery slope. I just don't like trying to justify what is already illegal. The bill is dumb, but the idea behind it isn't. We've got to stop all this stealing.

Its copyright infringement NOT stealing no matter how you put it. They still hold the item so it is NOT stolen, however yes the IS being broken. But please call it what it is, copyright infringement

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: spidey07
I love how people that steal and pirate will fight tooth and nail to say what they are doing is somehow OK. They will frame it as "it's my right", or "intellectual property should be shared".

Swiper, stop swiping.

Just get rid of the dandelions, asshole.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
What irritates me about the RIAA is the fact that before the Internet, people made cassette tapes all the time. It's only been since the mp3 revolution that the record companies started making a big deal about it when people copied the media. In 1997, I had my hand in the cookie jar and had somewhere around 200 songs that I had downloaded over mIRC on dialup. Since then, I can't stand P2P and what it does to network infrastructure. It is basically like a virus for the bandwidth. I don't know too many folks that work in IT that would disagree....BitTorrent is one of the worst.

As for the computer distribution method, it's much more wide-spread and easier to track thanks to logging, etc... I agree with the concept that copies should be purchased (iTunes, etc) but think it should be the music industry that comes up with formats that can't be copied rather than putting the burden on the government to police (even though they say it's the ISP's responsibility). I don't want my tax dollars going to the courts for this B.S.

Want to know the reason RIAA got all bent out of shape and has become so overbearing? With an analog format (records, tapes, etc), every copy was degraded. This means that after so many copies were made it became so distorted that it didn't matter if it was pirated as every copy was worse then the master it came from. The quality of equipment also played a factor.

Switch to digital now (mp3, cds, etc) and you can create 100% accurate copies. So no matter how many times you copy a recording it will have the same quality as the master.

Here is another factor. Fair use. With fair use, a consumer is legally allowed to make copies of their legally purchased content for backup and personal use. With analog equipment, making a few copies isn't a big deal because most likely you keep those for yourself. In addition to that its no where near as easy to take tracks from multiple analog sources and put on a "mix tape". It isn't impossible but it wasn't anywhere NEAR as simple as digital content.

I agree that P2P is horrible for bandwidth, and just sucks it up like no other. That is what P2P was designed to do though, make lots of computers all talk together in a mesh network.

All that being said, I agree with you that the music industry needs to find a way to curb piracy without strangling a consumers fair use. I don't like piracy of any kind, but I don't like being told what I can/cannot do with MY content I purchased legally for my own personal use. Have you really thought about your statement you made? The music industry needs to find a format that can't be copied? That will not solve anything for a few reasons. Look at HD-DVD/Blu-ray. Their encryption was cracked within a few months of release. Where there is a will there is a way. In addition to that, don't hurt the consumer who legally purchased their content. If I want to make backup cds, make a mix cd, etc. I should be allowed to period.

 

[MotF Bane]

P2P is not horrible for bandwidth. Everyone has just gotten to used to downloads from HTTP/FTP with their lower speeds that the bandwidth usage of P2P shocks them. The telcos and such don't want to pay for their bandwidth abilities or something, that's the problem.

 

[Raduque]

Wow. This is just.... wow.

Slippery slope ahoy. What's next? Criminalize sharing any kind of information on the intertubes? The USA is gonna become the next China and block out anything that might be classified as "pirate content"?

Congress written, but all it'll get me is a boilerplate letter that doesn't mean anything.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Raduque
Wow. This is just.... wow.

Slippery slope ahoy. What's next? Criminalize sharing any kind of information on the intertubes? The USA is gonna become the next China and block out anything that might be classified as "pirate content"?

Congress written, but all it'll get me is a boilerplate letter that doesn't mean anything.

If people let them , it could very well end up like China.
Then you will hear everyone saying "How did that happen ?"