Internal vs. External

Revolution09

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Common sense would tell me that an internal SATAII drive would be much faster than an external USB, correct?

I'm reading on the Western Digital site that their internal drives have "Up to 3 Gb/s SATA transfer rates" however on a local retailer's site they have listed "Fast -- Offers a 300 MB/s transfer rate - Three times faster than EIDE and twice as fast as SATA 1."

Surely they meant 3000 MB/s? Because I'm reading that a cheap Seagate USB External has a transfer rate of 480 MB/s

Thanks :)
 

Roguestar

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Originally posted by: Revolution09
1 Common sense would tell me that an internal SATAII drive would be much faster than an external USB, correct?

2 I'm reading on the Western Digital site that their internal drives have "Up to 3 Gb/s SATA transfer rates"
3 however on a local retailer's site they have listed "Fast -- Offers a 300 MB/s transfer rate - Three times faster than EIDE and twice as fast as SATA 1."

4 Surely they meant 3000 MB/s?
5 Because I'm reading that a cheap Seagate USB External has a transfer rate of 480 MB/s

1: Yes.
2: This is true, that's the maximum allowed by SATAII.
3: They mean 3000.
4: 3000MB/s = 3GB/s, but it is limited by the USB interface; it is the bottleneck.
5: Maximum transfer speed of USB 2.0.
 

0roo0roo

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doesnt matter as long as its sata. the max figure for each is way above what drives can actually do anyways. only usb and firewire hold back harddrives with slow speed.
 

sutahz

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Originally posted by: Roguestar
Originally posted by: Revolution09
1 Common sense would tell me that an internal SATAII drive would be much faster than an external USB, correct?

2 I'm reading on the Western Digital site that their internal drives have "Up to 3 Gb/s SATA transfer rates"
3 however on a local retailer's site they have listed "Fast -- Offers a 300 MB/s transfer rate - Three times faster than EIDE and twice as fast as SATA 1."

4 Surely they meant 3000 MB/s?
5 Because I'm reading that a cheap Seagate USB External has a transfer rate of 480 MB/s

1: Yes.
2: This is true, that's the maximum allowed by SATAII.
3: They mean 3000.
4: 3000MB/s = 3GB/s, but it is limited by the USB interface; it is the bottleneck.
5: Maximum transfer speed of USB 2.0.

Wow, Ms. Information there ..
1. Yes internal drives are faster then external.
2. Yup, but interface speed is not your concern. UDMA-5 (100MB/s) is enough (a side note, while formatting hdds of equal size but 2 IDE and 1 SATA, the SATA does finish about 20% faster, maybe due to the 2 IDE hdds sharing their bandwidth.. maybe someone can accuratly explain this).
3. 3Gb/s does not equal 3000MB/s (3GB/s, b & B difference). 8 bits per byte. 3000/8=375MB but take into account the 8b10b coding overhead of 20%, brings it down to 300MB/s, but then also take into acct that its 1024bytes per MB (not 1000) and you actually get (366*.8=) 292.8MB/s, right?
4. USB 2.0 max theoretical throughoutput of 480Mb/s (60MB/s), but any one device can only use up either 66% or 75% of said bandwidth, so a hdd can only use about 45MB/s, 55MB/s max. For most hard drives, thats about their max transfer rate anyways. Unless your transfering a lot of huge files, im sure you wont notice.
So "Surely they meant 3000 MB/s?". NO, they said what they ment, and they ment what they said.
5. ECF (Error carried forward). No, they say 480Mb/s, see #4.

People buy external drives because they want/need portability. They dont dare open up their computer. They don't want the "hassle" of installing a new hdd. So you can turn off a hdd that you dont use all the time (ie storing pics/movies on, but only want to look at them 1/week lets say).

Ms. Information, from South Park, read as misinformation. You gave out a lot of incorrect info there Roguestar.

Yup eSATA is exactly the same as SATA (from what little I've heard and using what common sense I have). I/we also havent gone into how firewire 400 or 800 have better throughput then USB 2.0.
 

0roo0roo

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yes ms information;)

i do seem to remember benchmark reviews that showed the usb 2.0 enclosures always getting way lower... 40~mb/s isnt the max for most drives these days, so it is limiting.
 

PingSpike

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Isn't eSATA the same speed as SATA though? The internal vs. external is clear with USB, but eSATA has the same throughput doesn't it?