Intermittent lock-up - Need Suggestions Please

Greenwald

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Hello,

My beloved PC I built about 3 years ago has been locking up lately. Actually this has been going on about the last 6 months but it's been intermittent and I've put up with is up to this point. I've got a lot of stuff on it and a lot of programs, but I like to think I to a good job keeping it *clean* as far as virus' and spyware and drive/file management go. It was running perfect for the longest time w/o narry a hick-up in it's present configuration but not that long ago I did do some minor upgrading like SP2, DVD recorder and some programs. I am pretty sure it was acting up prior to these upgrades. It's impossible to say at what point a new program or update might have caused it. It's getting to be a pain in the rear and need to resolve. Should I just reinstall windows or can anyone please give me some other suggestions on things to check or programs to run to help pinpoint what the problem might be (or conditions that caused it)? Below is more details:


Configuration: P4 2.53, 1G Samsung DDR 2700, Epox 4G4A+ mobo, Ledtek GF4 128, 56K, No Ethernet (mobo turned off too), USB & Firewire Cards, Phillips Seismic Edge audio. HDs 30G Maxtor (main), 120G WD, Removable HD (usually 200G WD installed), Plextor DVDRW. XP Hpme SP2 Bit Defender Pro8 Antivirus. Internet= dial-up

1) It's my PC, no kids or wife on it. Do video/Graphics/Web work/ mostly surf internet
2) May run a few days w/o problems or lock up twice in 10 minutes. Typically can go a day w/o locking up. Doesn't seem to be heat related. Typically, once it locks up it's good after a reboot and may not lock up for the rest of the day ...but sometimes may lock up after another few minutes of web surfing even. Hard to put a pattern together.
3) Use Bit Defender Pro firewall and very careful what comes in / out. Regularly sweep w/Ad-Aware & Spybot doesn't seem to make any difference. Also do registry checks and regular Defrags
4) HDs turn off after 2 minutes since most of the time after work I surf the net. Doesn't seem to occur when the drive are called to spin up. If I do video editing, I will have the drives always on and can still lock up.
5) No Hardware conflicts that I can see
6) Ive downloaded all the latest firmware upgrades.
7) I shut down and reboot every day (don't use system restore)
8) when computer locks up it requires reboot. I can be typing an email and it may lock up even when all drives are off.
9) doesn't seem to be high cpu activity when it locks up

Should I just reinstall windows, Is there a program that will let me know what was happening when it locks up, or do you have any other tricks/suggestions I should try?
Your help GREATLY appreciated. Thanks,

Greenwald
 

meltdown75

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Hi Greenwald

Does your WD click at all? My rig was exhibiting similar symptoms right before my WD 60gb was pooched. The only thing I noticed was the clicking was getting pretty audible. You seem pretty thorough though, and you didn't mention clicking.
 

aGreenAgent

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Sounds like drivers or power supply to me. Your power supply might be wearing down or something along those lines. What kind of power supply is it?

Also, make sure you've got your drivers up to date.
 

Greenwald

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Haven't noticed any drive noises and I think all my drivers are up to date. I need to check with my USP and firewirel card mfgrs, but I have the latest M/S drivers (not that that means much). As for my P/S, it's a 350 watt unit that came with my case (maybe even 300w, I don't remember). It's a possibility but it doesn't seem to be heat related as far as I can tell and a reboot can be good for some time. The PC can be on all day (drives off) and suddenly it'll lock up. However, I have noticed that it often does lock up a little more often when using WinAmp. What does that tell ya?

Would a windows reinstall be effective? I'm even thinking about moving all my files over to another drive and reformatting my main drive. But that's so much work. I'm looking for an easier way. Keep the suggestions coming PLEASE

Greenwald
 

amdskip

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As for my P/S, it's a 350 watt unit that came with my case (maybe even 300w, I don't remember). It's a possibility but it doesn't seem to be heat related as far as I can tell and a reboot can be good for some time. The PC can be on all day (drives off) and suddenly it'll lock up. However, I have noticed that it often does lock up a little more often when using WinAmp. What does that tell ya?

I would most definately replace that power supply with a quality power supply even if it doesn't solve your problems which it may very well do.
 

Greenwald

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That's an idea. How would one go about determining if problem is NOT O/S or driver related?

Greenwald
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: Greenwald
That's an idea. How would one go about determining if problem is NOT O/S or driver related?

Greenwald

Does this happen in safe mode?

Have you tried putting a parallel installation of Windows on your C: drive to see if the problems still occur?
 

Greenwald

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I'm not familiar with a "parallel windows installation". Can you please explain how it works? Or, are you talking about reinstalling windows?

Greenwald
 

icarus4586

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Install on a different partition, or a new install on the same partition, without overwriting the old one. Different Windows directory.
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: Greenwald
I'm not familiar with a "parallel windows installation". Can you please explain how it works? Or, are you talking about reinstalling windows?

Greenwald

See immediately above. In other words, your current Windows is in c:\windows, so you could reinstall Windows (without formatting) to c:\win2, and then boot into that OS, and if you had the same problems, you'd know it's a hardware issue rather than a software issue.
 

daveybrat

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Look closely at your motherboard and inspect it for any 'puffed' looking capacitors on it. These will mean that it's slowly going bad and you'll have to replace it before the symptoms get worse.