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Interesting turn of events yesterday. I got a call from another city manager for a small town in our county who's taking another job and they're going to be recruiting soon. He wants to meet for lunch to talk about the position because he thinks I'd be a perfect fit over there and wants to discuss me throwing my hat in the ring for the position. We meet next week. I know some of the staff there, and some of the council members as well. Good people. Significant pay raise as well. Problem: 45 minute commute. That right there is probably a deal breaker for me. As it is now, I can take off pretty much whenever to watch my daughter's activities, or run home to drop a deuce. That's gold right there lol
 
I might be able to do rural midwest, at least as far as driving goes. What gets me around here, is things being not too far away, but having to run the gauntlet of morons to get anywhere. I can do country driving when there aren't too many people on the road. Dunno about 1.5hr of it Every.Single.Day though.
 
lxskllr said:
I might be able to do rural midwest, at least as far as driving goes. What gets me around here, is things being not too far away, but having to run the gauntlet of morons to get anywhere. I can do country driving when there aren't too many people on the road. Dunno about 1.5hr of it Every.Single.Day though.
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Had to do both if I wanted to do anything beyond basic grocery shopping, drive a while to get to the city, and then run the gauntlet.
 
The commute won't be bad other than time. It's rural highways and back roads. If there's an accident, that would suck. My biggest concern is the fog. It'll start getting foggy here in the next month or so and will last till at least Feb. I'll have to attend council meetings so I won't be getting home till 8-9pm some nights and driving in the fog is the worst.
 
Had lunch with the guy yesterday and he's convinced me to at least apply and hopefully make it through the interview process. It'll be good experience as I've never interviewed with council members before. I hate filling out applications and having to update my resume etc.
 
sdifox said:
Demand a chopper ride both ways. If Starbucks can pay for private jet to fly their CEO to work, so should this other town.
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This is local gov't man. I'll be lucky if I don't have to buy my own business cards. lol Actually, it's not as bad as teachers so...
 
Update: So I didn't get the City Manager job I had interviewed for, but I'm still in negotiations with my current city for the city manager position. I'm tired of all the bs and getting strung along. I met with them sometime in November, told them I want an increase and a 2 year contract. I've got a meeting with them this afternoon. I'm hearing so much BS from other people that I trust saying that at least 1 council member wants to go with someone else (they haven't even officially floated the position so who that is IDK), and some have concerns that I've never been a city manager so I shouldn't get what I'm asking for so I think they're going to offer me less.

In the mean time, I interviewed with another jurisdiction and they offered me the position of a Deputy Director. The commute is similar to my old one, about 35 mins of highway that never sees traffic unless there's an accident. But a significant raise to start, about $20k more than I'm making here annually. I officially accepted the position this morning lol. I start on 1/5/26. I'm debating if I should even bother meeting the council this afternoon. That'll really mess with them. But I also want to hear what they're going to offer me just for S&Gs so I can tell them nicely to f off, I'm outta here.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Update: So I didn't get the City Manager job I had interviewed for, but I'm still in negotiations with my current city for the city manager position. I'm tired of all the bs and getting strung along. I met with them sometime in November, told them I want an increase and a 2 year contract. I've got a meeting with them this afternoon. I'm hearing so much BS from other people that I trust saying that at least 1 council member wants to go with someone else (they haven't even officially floated the position so who that is IDK), and some have concerns that I've never been a city manager so I shouldn't get what I'm asking for so I think they're going to offer me less.

In the mean time, I interviewed with another jurisdiction and they offered me the position of a Deputy Director. The commute is similar to my old one, about 35 mins of highway that never sees traffic unless there's an accident. But a significant raise to start, about $20k more than I'm making here annually. I officially accepted the position this morning lol. I start on 1/5/26. I'm debating if I should even bother meeting the council this afternoon. That'll really mess with them. But I also want to hear what they're going to offer me just for S&Gs so I can tell them nicely to f off, I'm outta here.
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Congratulations. I agree on hearing them out, but what you describe also sounds like a typical, small municipal government. Not enough public oversight of city council people who love to self deal or just are ineffective at getting things done.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Congratulations. I agree on hearing them out, but what you describe also sounds like a typical, small municipal government. Not enough public oversight of city council people who love to self deal or just are ineffective at getting things done.
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This particular group especially. They can't decide on anything, and have wasted a tremendous amount of money on closed session meetings with our counsel who charges around $295/hr. Ridiculous. I'm gonna miss my 4min commute though. It was nice being able to run home to drop a deuce while it lasted haha...
 
Sounds like my city. They just hire consultants for everything but then they don't actually do anything after. They spend millions on consultants every year for all sorts of things, even mundane things like deciding if a 4 way stop should be converted into 2 way or vise versa. They've also done lot of dumb stuff like install heated steps in front of city hall. I can only imagine the hydro bill to run that, and it still requires someone to shovel as the heaters can't keep up with snow fall rate most of the time.
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Update: So I didn't get the City Manager job I had interviewed for, but I'm still in negotiations with my current city for the city manager position. I'm tired of all the bs and getting strung along. I met with them sometime in November, told them I want an increase and a 2 year contract. I've got a meeting with them this afternoon. I'm hearing so much BS from other people that I trust saying that at least 1 council member wants to go with someone else (they haven't even officially floated the position so who that is IDK), and some have concerns that I've never been a city manager so I shouldn't get what I'm asking for so I think they're going to offer me less.

In the mean time, I interviewed with another jurisdiction and they offered me the position of a Deputy Director. The commute is similar to my old one, about 35 mins of highway that never sees traffic unless there's an accident. But a significant raise to start, about $20k more than I'm making here annually. I officially accepted the position this morning lol. I start on 1/5/26. I'm debating if I should even bother meeting the council this afternoon. That'll really mess with them. But I also want to hear what they're going to offer me just for S&Gs so I can tell them nicely to f off, I'm outta here.
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I hope you went in like a wrecking ball and tore them all apart this afternoon.

Ok, perhaps not. "Thank you, I've moving on." is probably good enough.
 
Well it went pretty much as I expected. They offered me less $ and a shorter contract, with the idea that we would negotiate another year. I said thanks but no thanks, I can't work under a council that wasn't on the same page, and a council that doesn't understand the concept of confidentiality (long story with an issue that happened yesterday). Anyways, I was very professional, and walked out feeling pretty good with how things went. Went home afterwards, and enjoyed a 6 pack lol. I think they were pretty stunned that I didn't accept. Oh well...
 
thestrangebrew1 said:
Well it went pretty much as I expected. They offered me less $ and a shorter contract, with the idea that we would negotiate another year. I said thanks but no thanks, I can't work under a council that wasn't on the same page, and a council that doesn't understand the concept of confidentiality (long story with an issue that happened yesterday). Anyways, I was very professional, and walked out feeling pretty good with how things went. Went home afterwards, and enjoyed a 6 pack lol. I think they were pretty stunned that I didn't accept. Oh well...
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thestrangebrew1 said:
Update: So I didn't get the City Manager job I had interviewed for, but I'm still in negotiations with my current city for the city manager position. I'm tired of all the bs and getting strung along. I met with them sometime in November, told them I want an increase and a 2 year contract. I've got a meeting with them this afternoon. I'm hearing so much BS from other people that I trust saying that at least 1 council member wants to go with someone else (they haven't even officially floated the position so who that is IDK), and some have concerns that I've never been a city manager so I shouldn't get what I'm asking for so I think they're going to offer me less.

In the mean time, I interviewed with another jurisdiction and they offered me the position of a Deputy Director. The commute is similar to my old one, about 35 mins of highway that never sees traffic unless there's an accident. But a significant raise to start, about $20k more than I'm making here annually. I officially accepted the position this morning lol. I start on 1/5/26. I'm debating if I should even bother meeting the council this afternoon. That'll really mess with them. But I also want to hear what they're going to offer me just for S&Gs so I can tell them nicely to f off, I'm outta here.
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Awesome! Congrats on the new job.
 
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