Interesting tidbit about 9/11...

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IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Josh

You guys just LOVE to jump on each others theories. Anything each other's small brain imagines the other takes and runs with.

Troll collective? The troll mind? Troll-borg?

im not believing it im just saying if they were going to go through all that trouble to accomplish those goals it would NOT be so we pay less at the pump.

Umm then why would Bush not only support but call on congress to lift the ban on off-shore drilling? Wouldn't that in result reduce profits/prices of oil? Jeez, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you - this just proves that you jump on each other's unsubstantiated theories. You should stop trying now.

political pressure.
 

Josh

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Josh

You guys just LOVE to jump on each others theories. Anything each other's small brain imagines the other takes and runs with.

Troll collective? The troll mind? Troll-borg?

im not believing it im just saying if they were going to go through all that trouble to accomplish those goals it would NOT be so we pay less at the pump.

Umm then why would Bush not only support but call on congress to lift the ban on off-shore drilling? Wouldn't that in result reduce profits/prices of oil? Jeez, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you - this just proves that you jump on each other's unsubstantiated theories. You should stop trying now.

political pressure.

Ohhhhh! Goshdarn you are SO smart, I wish I realized that. :roll:

Your idiocy astounds me. He has no problem concocting a scheme to kill americans to get oil. But, when the political pressure is on him, might I add, with ZERO chance of re-election, he folds. Not to mention I've already posted a good deal of information on the Iraq invasion theory in the previous page, but you refuse to try and argue that because like the rest of your jerkoff buddies you pick and choose which points to debate.

I'm done with you. Your posts don't deserve any attention.
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: ElFenix

doh!

what perfect timing.


Of course, they could be part of the conspiracy too. All seems a little fishy that here we are, having this 750+ reply thread about 9/11, and then this report comes out...I refuse to believe that this was pure coincidence.

"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.

Filed under no fucking chance.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: Josh

You guys just LOVE to jump on each others theories. Anything each other's small brain imagines the other takes and runs with.

Troll collective? The troll mind? Troll-borg?

im not believing it im just saying if they were going to go through all that trouble to accomplish those goals it would NOT be so we pay less at the pump.

Umm then why would Bush not only support but call on congress to lift the ban on off-shore drilling? Wouldn't that in result reduce profits/prices of oil? Jeez, you really have no idea what you are talking about do you - this just proves that you jump on each other's unsubstantiated theories. You should stop trying now.

political pressure.

Ohhhhh! Goshdarn you are SO smart, I wish I realized that. :roll:

Your idiocy astounds me. He has no problem concocting a scheme to kill americans to get oil. But, when the political pressure is on him, might I add, with ZERO chance of re-election, he folds. Not to mention I've already posted a good deal of information on the Iraq invasion theory in the previous page, but you refuse to try and argue that because like the rest of your jerkoff buddies you pick and choose which points to debate.

I'm done with you. Your posts don't deserve any attention.

well nothing is going to happen with offshore drilling for many years his successor will be out of office by then to...so really its a moot point why he told congress that.

But your missing the point. I'm not saying he did plot with cheney to achieve those 4 goals im saying that had he done so.....it would have been for private profits not for the benefit of americans.
 

jaredfs

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Jul 20, 2008
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"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.

Yeah, it's not like the family group most responsible for there even being a 9/11 Commission, The Family Steering Committee, claims that only 30% of their questions were addressed by the 9/11 Commission. Oh wait : http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

Unanswered questions = conspiracy theories

Even the co-chair of the 9/11 Commission admits this : http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/911hamilton.html

 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: jaredfs
"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.

Yeah, it's not like the family group most responsible for there even being a 9/11 Commission, The Family Steering Committee, claims that only 30% of their questions were addressed by the 9/11 Commission. Oh wait : http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

Unanswered questions = conspiracy theories

Even the co-chair of the 9/11 Commission admits this : http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/911hamilton.html

*facepalm*
 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: jaredfs
"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.

Yeah, it's not like the family group most responsible for there even being a 9/11 Commission, The Family Steering Committee, claims that only 30% of their questions were addressed by the 9/11 Commission. Oh wait : http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

Unanswered questions = conspiracy theories

Even the co-chair of the 9/11 Commission admits this : http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/911hamilton.html

*facepalm*

Way to go! It's so cool to make fun of victim's family members!
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Only the crazy conspiracy theorists.

I like to think that they died cuz some douchebag terrorists flew into the WTC.

Others like to think that the government killed them, or silverstein killed them, or lemmings killed them.

Who's making fun of who?



What do we have more evidence of hmmmmmmmmmm? May I remind you of the report a few posts above that completely wrecked this WTC7 taken down by bombs theory? Or is that not good enough?

 

SampSon

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Alkemyst had them demolish it so he could underwrite some sweet real estate deals through his ultra awesome company.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Alkemyst had them demolish it so he could underwrite some sweet real estate deals through his ultra awesome company.

I saw last reply = SampSon and was saddened to not see you lay down some ZJ style ownage in this thread.
 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Only the crazy conspiracy theorists.

I like to think that they died cuz some douchebag terrorists flew into the WTC.

Others like to think that the government killed them, or silverstein killed them, or lemmings killed them.

Who's making fun of who?



What do we have more evidence of hmmmmmmmmmm? May I remind you of the report a few posts above that completely wrecked this WTC7 taken down by bombs theory? Or is that not good enough?

Here's an idea - read my actual posts instead of imagining I'm arguing something that I'm not. If you have a problem with a certain sentence I've posted, then get specific about that. You seem to be set on having an immature debate that goes nowhere, while I'm just making observations and sprinkling in related information.

I was pointing out that the conspiracy theories persist because legit questions have not been addressed. You seem to confuse victim's family members asking questions with conspiracy theorists.

If you look at the Family Steering Committee's questions you will notice that none of them had anything to do with how the WTC came down, the hole in the Pentagon or aliens from Pluto.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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FFS you went on like 20 posts about how the WTC could have been brought down by explosives, and then when that's disproved you just bring up more goddamn questions.

Instead of looking at all the unknowns why don't you just look at the facts?

The facts here are fucking clear

a bunch of mother fucking douche bag terrorists hijacked a buncha mother fucking planes and crashed them the WTC and the pentagon. AND THEN THE MOTHER FUCKER CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.

"ZOMG MAYBE HE'S JUST CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY TO TERRORIZE US", OR MAYBE HE FUCKING DID IT.

Sure there are other LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS such as "ZOMG HOW COULD SUCH A THING POSSIBLY HAPPEN!?", but you CT fucks keep saying retarded shit like what's in my signature

I don't fucking have time for this shit but retarded mother fucking statements like (see sig) make me fucking angry

 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: ric1287
If I lived in a country where I believed all this bat-shit insane stuff was going on with my government....I'd be on the first plane the fuck out.

So for me, that just proves how unbelievably crazy/stupid you have to be to believe in some of the shit talked about in this thread.

So you think the government has never lied or covered up anything?

Seriously you have no where you could go anyway...it's a world problem not just the US. There is no real one world order or anything, but anywhere you would go those in power aren't looking out for the little guy. Just look at the attitudes in here...even if those believing their truth is correct, instead of educating others....they just want to crush them out.

Give them an army and money and they'd be right at home.

No, they have done that. But if I believed my government KILLED THOUSANDS OF ITS OWN FUCKING CITIZENS IN A STAGED PLANE CRASH IN ORDER TO GET OIL....i'd be hauling ass out of here.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: jaredfs
If you look at the Family Steering Committee's questions you will notice that none of them had anything to do with how the WTC came down, the hole in the Pentagon or aliens from Pluto.

I looked at their home page and was confused to see what basically seemed to be a concession that the important questions (though not all questions) had been answered and that they were satisfied enough to move on to other issues such as immigration, terrorist financing, etc.
 

jaredfs

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Originally posted by: Ns1
FFS you went on like 20 posts about how the WTC could have been brought down by explosives, and then when that's disproved you just bring up more goddamn questions.

Yes, it's awesome that now 7 years later they came out with that report. There are still many more questions that need to be answered, though.

Instead of looking at all the whatif's why don't you just look at the facts?

The facts here are fucking clear

If everything is clear, why don't you go through the Family Steering Committee's list of questions and submit the answers to them?

a bunch of mother fucking douche bag terrorists hijacked a buncha mother fucking planes and crashed them the WTC and the pentagon. Sure there are other LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS such as "ZOMG HOW COULD SUCH A THING POSSIBLY HAPPEN!?", but you CT fucks keep saying retarded shit like what's in my signature

You don't seem to understand. This is not just about "who did it?", it is about "who knew what and when?" and more.

If a worker at Wal-Mart falls off a ladder and dies, there will be a certain procedure of investigation. Many questions will be answered for the person's family. They are not likely to think that a Wal-Mart manager pushed the worker off the ladder, but they are going to want to know that the manager was properly doing everything to ensure safety. They are going to want to know the age of the ladder, how often the condition of it is checked, if safety training is being done, what corporate does to ensure safety, etc.

If the Wal-Mart company turned their backs and refused to answer most questions, then some will get suspicious that they are covering something up.

I don't fucking have time for this shit but retarded mother fucking statements like (see sig) make me fucking angry

OK man, go masturbate or something.

 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Look, I am not trying to understand why this shit happened. My only source of contention is conspiracy theorists who claimed that the government, media, rich peoples, or leprechauns did this shit.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Look, I am not trying to understand why this shit happened. My only source of contention is conspiracy theorists who claimed that the government, media, rich peoples, or leprechauns did this shit.

It's not that the media did it. It's just how heavily influenced they are at the top to spin a story a certain way, run or not run a story, etc.

rich people would be exactly who did it if you believe it was Bin Laden. Most people cannot grasp the sheer power the ultra rich command. There are families that put Bill Gates worth to shame. They simply choose to not report on their income and it doesn't come from any easy to pinpoint source.

On the street all a 'kingpin' has to do is mention he wishes someone dead and it gets done for pennies...sometimes just a bag of weed. Think how this scales when someone is offering 50 million or so to a few soldiers of fortune.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: ric1287
If I lived in a country where I believed all this bat-shit insane stuff was going on with my government....I'd be on the first plane the fuck out.

So for me, that just proves how unbelievably crazy/stupid you have to be to believe in some of the shit talked about in this thread.

So you think the government has never lied or covered up anything?

Seriously you have no where you could go anyway...it's a world problem not just the US. There is no real one world order or anything, but anywhere you would go those in power aren't looking out for the little guy. Just look at the attitudes in here...even if those believing their truth is correct, instead of educating others....they just want to crush them out.

Give them an army and money and they'd be right at home.

No, they have done that. But if I believed my government KILLED THOUSANDS OF ITS OWN FUCKING CITIZENS IN A STAGED PLANE CRASH IN ORDER TO GET OIL....i'd be hauling ass out of here.

It's not the oil really...they have oil. It's the pure creation of money.

Do you believe or not believe that our government tested nuclear/biological/chemical weapons on its own soldiers? Saying our 'government' though is problematic as it's akin to saying 'black people did it' or 'women all PMS'. The big problem with government and big business most really don't realize is how much free reign the leaders/heads have and how little they have to share with the other departments around them.

However, I don't think it was the government at all...but a few key people that would stand to profit majorly over putting our country into no choice but to go to a full-fledged war. After 9/11 many people went from wanting to pull our military out to wanting us to level the whole middle east. We have been fighting over there in some form for decades, yet with 9/11 even now many muslim/arab people face far more racism and hate than ever before.

The ironic parts is two of these leaders were allies with the US and friends with many of our leaders all the way up to the President.

People look too deep and make things too complex that they miss the simple stuff like who was where when and with who. Who did what when and why. etc.


 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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People look too deep and make things too complex that they miss the simple stuff like who was where when and with who. Who did what when and why. etc.

oh the irony.
 

91TTZ

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The oil companies took them down because the blueprint to a car that runs on water was in one of them, a perpetual motion machine was in the other, and a copy of Duke Nukem Forever was in the other.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
The oil companies took them down because the blueprint to a car that runs on water was in one of them, a perpetual motion machine was in the other, and a copy of Duke Nukem Forever was in the other.

don't forget chinese democracy.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ns1
People look too deep and make things too complex that they miss the simple stuff like who was where when and with who. Who did what when and why. etc.

oh the irony.

irony? I usually present things pretty much straight up and then someone / perhaps you goes off on some tangent that I wasn't even discussing and has no relation to the topic at hand.

You and others are saying this is crazy, but at the same time our LEADERS and those investigating this still do not have all the answers. Especially on events leading up to and including that day.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Ns1
People look too deep and make things too complex that they miss the simple stuff like who was where when and with who. Who did what when and why. etc.

oh the irony.

irony? I usually present things pretty much straight up and then someone / perhaps you goes off on some tangent that I wasn't even discussing and has no relation to the topic at hand.

You and others are saying this is crazy, but at the same time our LEADERS and those investigating this still do not have all the answers. Especially on events leading up to and including that day.

He is also of the mindset that the WTC was not brought down by the two planes, but rather other methods in addition to them. He also questions the third building that fell in the exact same manner yet had no impact (yet may have had one scheduled).

Fact: 2 planes hit the WTC. Reports conclude this was due to fire (for WTC7 as well)

People look too deep and make things too complex that they miss the simple stuff


If your point is that there are other things leading up to 9/11 that hasn't been discovered, I agree. If you are trying to agree with Mr. Ventura, I disagree. It's ironic because you, and others, are looking way too deep when the actual events that caused the WTC to collapse are right in front of your eyes, but you guys "look too deep and make things too complex"
 

alkemyst

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never said I agreed with Ventura...thought his take was interesting though.

No one has even disputed jets hit the WTC's.

The fire thing is pretty impossible to prove. It's the theory anyway. WTC7's story was really put together much after it all went down.