Interesting thread concering the whole Michael J fox. /Rush controversey...

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
hmmm.... and to think this could have been posted in the thread in P&N about this topic, instead of the op looking to feel above the fray...

/golfclap, op...

I read that thread...it was a disaster...which is why I spared the little ah heck.

 

[jme5343]

I see nothing wrong with Fox laying off the meds, and this comes from a former hard-core repub...pretty much apathetic now, too much else to worry about.

He's got the disease, show people how it affects you if you can. I, personally, have never seen full-blown Parkinsons. Medical research is the most important field in my opinion. NOTHING, aside from death, affects people's lives more profoundly and often than health issues. Trust me, the last few months have been tough

 

[Eos]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Dammit, I came in here wondering how the hell the band Rush could have a beef with Michael J Fox.

"He's not afraid of your judgement
He knows of horrors worse than your Hell
He's a little bit afraid of dying ---
But he's a lot more afraid of your lying"

 

[MrDingleDangle]

lol i didnt know something like that could exist on the internet...i shall go there more often now!

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Auggie
Arrrrgh, people, people! You're all missing the point. There are two separate "controversies" here:

1.) If Rush is a jerk.

2.) If pitching a very big idea on an emotional instead of a scientific basis, is a good idea.

To which I reply,

1.) Yeah, he's being a complete jerk.

2.) The ad tells the audience: if you don't support embryonic stem cell research, you want this suffering person to die a terrible death instead of get cured. This is very disengenuous, and not true. This elicits a very strong and predictable emotive response from the audience, which is harnessed by the campaigning woman. There's absolutely no scientific basis for the kind of faith that people have that embryonic stem cell research will cure Parkinson's disease within the next 2 decades, and to cast the oppenent as a heartless man who

One could very well look at the situation from the point of view of embryonic stage human beings, which all of us were at one point previously - as this http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2368]scrappleface video[/url] does.

Advocates of embryonic stem cell research make two very large, very unsupported-by-facts, assumptions: 1.) that embryos are not human, and should have no human rights, and 2.) that embryonic stem cell research will yield cures for an untold number of human pathologies.

Yeah, and you're making a huge assumption that these embryos will actually develop into a child someday. Fact is we're talking about embryos that will probably be discarded anyway. I say lets put them to use rather than throw them in the trash.

The embryos being used would never have been allowed to develop. People who go into IVF clinics are given three choices: save for their own later use, donate to scientific research or allow them to be adopted (I.e. given to another couple). The embryos used were given up for scientific research -- that's it.