Interesting thread concering the whole Michael J fox. /Rush controversey...

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Born2bwire

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Dammit, I came in here wondering how the hell the band Rush could have a beef with Michael J Fox.
 
sandorski

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
good stuff....


Haven't seen that much civility in a long time...
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On the whole that thread is not much different than the P&N variant. You are correct though, civility is much better in the thread you linked.
 
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Rush is a paid entertainer. His job is to stir the pot and see what floats up to the top.

 
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I also thought this was about the band. :eek:

I'm not familiar with this controversy, but even if he did skip his medications to demonstrate the effects of the disease while speaking in front of congress, is that really so bad? It's not like he faked having the disease.
 
Vic

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
good stuff....


Haven't seen that much civility in a long time...
Click to expand...

On the whole that thread is not much different than the P&N variant. You are correct though, civility is much better in the thread you linked.
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:confused: That straightdope thread is head-and-shoulders above P&N. Not just civility but for intelligence and content.

And I think Limbaugh just doing his disgusting let's-shock-for-effect-and-ratings crap again. One of my grandfathers died of Parkinsons and I've seen first-hand that it is a horrible disease. Fox might accept Limbaugh's apology but I will not.
 
daniel1113

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
good stuff....


Haven't seen that much civility in a long time...
Click to expand...

On the whole that thread is not much different than the P&N variant. You are correct though, civility is much better in the thread you linked.
Click to expand...

:confused: That straightdope thread is head-and-shoulders above P&N. Not just civility but for intelligence and content.

And I think Limbaugh just doing his disgusting let's-shock-for-effect-and-ratings crap again. One of my grandfathers died of Parkinsons and I've seen first-hand that it is a horrible disease. Fox might accept Limbaugh's apology but I will not.
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Mr. Limbaugh was pretty explicit in his intentions behind the comments, and further explained that his main gripe was that Mr. Fox is being used by politicians because of his condition, not that Parkinsons isn't a horrible disease.
 
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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Dammit, I came in here wondering how the hell the band Rush could have a beef with Michael J Fox.
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They're bitter about him being the cooler Canadian!
 
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thehstrybean

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Holy crap! Too bad we couldn't have some of that here...


And I, too, love MJF. The first movie I ever saw (it was VHS) was Back to the Future, and he, of course was in it. I loved him that movie. Spin City was fun to watch as he got older. Now I see him like this, and it's so hard to watch...
 
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Wag

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My Uncle had severe Parkinsons and pretty much died from it. He was too afraid to have the surgery. Sad to see him die that way.:(
 
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Auggie

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Arrrrgh, people, people! You're all missing the point. There are two separate "controversies" here:

1.) If Rush is a jerk.

2.) If pitching a very big idea on an emotional instead of a scientific basis, is a good idea.

To which I reply,

1.) Yeah, he's being a complete jerk.

2.) The ad tells the audience: if you don't support embryonic stem cell research, you want this suffering person to die a terrible death instead of get cured. This is very disengenuous, and not true. This elicits a very strong and predictable emotive response from the audience, which is harnessed by the campaigning woman. There's absolutely no scientific basis for the kind of faith that people have that embryonic stem cell research will cure Parkinson's disease within the next 2 decades, and to cast the oppenent as a heartless man who

One could very well look at the situation from the point of view of embryonic stage human beings, which all of us were at one point previously - as this http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2368]scrappleface video[/url] does.

Advocates of embryonic stem cell research make two very large, very unsupported-by-facts, assumptions: 1.) that embryos are not human, and should have no human rights, and 2.) that embryonic stem cell research will yield cures for an untold number of human pathologies.
 
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91TTZ

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Rush Limbaugh. Though his mind is not for rent, Dont put him down as arrogant. His reserve, a quiet defense, Riding out the days events.
 
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Originally posted by: daniel1113

Mr. Limbaugh was pretty explicit in his intentions behind the comments, and further explained that his main gripe was that Mr. Fox is being used by politicians because of his condition, not that Parkinsons isn't a horrible disease.
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And what you say about his company, is what you say about society. Catch the witness, catch the wit. Catch the spirit, catch the spit.
 
JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Auggie
Arrrrgh, people, people! You're all missing the point. There are two separate "controversies" here:

1.) If Rush is a jerk.

2.) If pitching a very big idea on an emotional instead of a scientific basis, is a good idea.

To which I reply,

1.) Yeah, he's being a complete jerk.

2.) The ad tells the audience: if you don't support embryonic stem cell research, you want this suffering person to die a terrible death instead of get cured. This is very disengenuous, and not true. This elicits a very strong and predictable emotive response from the audience, which is harnessed by the campaigning woman. There's absolutely no scientific basis for the kind of faith that people have that embryonic stem cell research will cure Parkinson's disease within the next 2 decades, and to cast the oppenent as a heartless man who

One could very well look at the situation from the point of view of embryonic stage human beings, which all of us were at one point previously - as this http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2368]scrappleface video[/url] does.

Advocates of embryonic stem cell research make two very large, very unsupported-by-facts, assumptions: 1.) that embryos are not human, and should have no human rights, and 2.) that embryonic stem cell research will yield cures for an untold number of human pathologies.
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Yeah, and you're making a huge assumption that these embryos will actually develop into a child someday. Fact is we're talking about embryos that will probably be discarded anyway. I say lets put them to use rather than throw them in the trash.
 
sandorski

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Auggie
Arrrrgh, people, people! You're all missing the point. There are two separate "controversies" here:

1.) If Rush is a jerk.

2.) If pitching a very big idea on an emotional instead of a scientific basis, is a good idea.

To which I reply,

1.) Yeah, he's being a complete jerk.

2.) The ad tells the audience: if you don't support embryonic stem cell research, you want this suffering person to die a terrible death instead of get cured. This is very disengenuous, and not true. This elicits a very strong and predictable emotive response from the audience, which is harnessed by the campaigning woman. There's absolutely no scientific basis for the kind of faith that people have that embryonic stem cell research will cure Parkinson's disease within the next 2 decades, and to cast the oppenent as a heartless man who

One could very well look at the situation from the point of view of embryonic stage human beings, which all of us were at one point previously - as this http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2368]scrappleface video[/url] does.

Advocates of embryonic stem cell research make two very large, very unsupported-by-facts, assumptions: 1.) that embryos are not human, and should have no human rights, and 2.) that embryonic stem cell research will yield cures for an untold number of human pathologies.
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1) Can't be proven one way or the other

2) Can only be known through Research.
 
UberNeuman

UberNeuman

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hmmm.... and to think this could have been posted in the thread in P&N about this topic, instead of the op looking to feel above the fray...

/golfclap, op...
 
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