Interesting thing about income and who voted for who this election

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Not everyone needs money to be happy, you fvcking moron.

Sigh........so ignorant, so naive...

:roll:

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: illustri

Originally posted by: ntdz
the list of states does not matter. Look at the stats I first posted in this thread. It proves the richer you are, the more you vote republican. Plain and Simple. The richer you are, the more likely you are to be educated. They have a positive corrolation. You get educated more, you make more money. You make a lot of money? You're probably educated well.

if this list doesn't matter why does yours?
[homer]people can use statistics to prove anything, 14% of all people know that[/homer]

because its just using states income levels and who they went for. This is using PEOPLE's direct income levels and who they voted for.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ntdz

the list of states does not matter. Look at the stats I first posted in this thread. It proves the richer you are, the more you vote republican. Plain and Simple. The richer you are, the more likely you are to be educated. They have a positive corrolation. You get educated more, you make more money. You make a lot of money? You're probably educated well.

You're inferring a correlation that doesn't exist. There is no statistically significant correlation between education level and voting philosophy. I suggest you read the literature on this, rather than cobbling together voting patterns in a single election.

FWIW, as I recall, you're a teenager with something shy of a high school degree (though I don't doubt you'll go on to achieve more academically), and you are obviously a Republican. I have a doctorate, and I'm a Democrat. I know at least 20 Democrats with Master's degrees or doctorates, and I'm quite sure they are matched by a similar number of Republicans.

My father has a doctorate, and is retired and very affluent and wealthy, and is a die-hard liberal Democrat. Pro-tax, pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, Unitarian, the works.

 

[chess9]

Don:

Well, that explains the "have ran" sentence in the other thread. 🙂

Let's hope NCLB gets adequate funding....

-Robert

 

[illustri]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: illustri

Originally posted by: ntdz
the list of states does not matter.

if this list doesn't matter why does yours?
[homer]people can use statistics to prove anything, 14% of all people know that[/homer]

because its just using states income levels and who they went for. This is using PEOPLE's direct income levels and who they voted for.

Its highly contentious that these lists or statistics "prove" anything. You yourself admitted "getting an education doesnt make you a success" contradicting your current arguement.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: illustri

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: illustri

Originally posted by: ntdz
the list of states does not matter.

if this list doesn't matter why does yours?
[homer]people can use statistics to prove anything, 14% of all people know that[/homer]

because its just using states income levels and who they went for. This is using PEOPLE's direct income levels and who they voted for.

Its highly contentious that these lists or statistics "prove" anything. You yourself admitted "getting an education doesnt make you a success" contradicting your current arguement.

what am i contradicting? I'm arguing income levels, not education levels...

 

[illustri]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: illustri

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: illustri

Originally posted by: ntdz
the list of states does not matter.

if this list doesn't matter why does yours?
[homer]people can use statistics to prove anything, 14% of all people know that[/homer]

because its just using states income levels and who they went for. This is using PEOPLE's direct income levels and who they voted for.

Its highly contentious that these lists or statistics "prove" anything. You yourself admitted "getting an education doesnt make you a success" contradicting your current arguement.

what am i contradicting? I'm arguing income levels, not education levels...

your words:

It proves the richer you are, the more you vote republican. Plain and Simple. The richer you are, the more likely you are to be educated. They have a positive corrolation. You get educated more, you make more money. You make a lot of money? You're probably educated well.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: nCred
Vote by IQ

Huh - I wonder where he gets his average IQ numbers. That would be pretty interesting if true.

The IQ stuff looked pretty fake to me, and this seems to say the same thing.

Intuitively that data makes NO sense. How could an entire state average an IQ of 85, which is a full SD below average. Or an entire state with an average IQ of 113. An entire state? Did CT and NJ erect barriers that electrocute stupid people attempting to enter and reside in their states?

 

[illustri]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Intuitively that data makes NO sense. How could an entire state average an IQ of 85, which is a full SD below average. Or an entire state with an average IQ of 113. An entire state? Did CT and NJ erect barriers that electrocute stupid people attempting to enter and reside in their states?

Quite true, I suspect any source of these number stem from the fact that tests for iq are heavily biased toward literacy (specifically english literacy here) which would advantage those states with better education systems with little diversity instead of those with heavy immigration or the like.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
That also tells me that the uneducated voted for Kerry more so than for Bush.

No surprise there. No one with an ounce of intellect could have taken Kerry seriously. A twenty year empy suit in the Senate.

Two wonderful examples of uneducated morons.

 

[RobCur]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
That also tells me that the uneducated voted for Kerry more so than for Bush.

Percisely. Liberals have this stupid idea in their head that they are more educated than conservatives. I guess thats why conservatives make way more money than them.

that's not nice to pick on uneducated people, their not stupid and certainly being very educated(completely brainwashed) doesn't make you all that much smarter, maybe more ignorants of the truth. so you can say that people who don't speak english fluently, have a different background are all stupid?
Look I can feed you with all kinds of BS lies using the media, would you know I am lieing? probably not, most likely not due to your nature of being ignorants of the reality that has been programmed to live in a fantasy world. oh well, it doesn't matter what you think or someone think to change my opinions, I'm not like all stereotyped people who agrees with the majority.

 

[RobCur]

Originally posted by: SludgeFactory

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: nCred
Vote by IQ

Huh - I wonder where he gets his average IQ numbers. That would be pretty interesting if true.

The IQ stuff looked pretty fake to me, and this seems to say the same thing.

Intuitively that data makes NO sense. How could an entire state average an IQ of 85, which is a full SD below average. Or an entire state with an average IQ of 113. An entire state? Did CT and NJ erect barriers that electrocute stupid people attempting to enter and reside in their states?

dunno, but who cares anyway??? people aren't so smart to begin with, they think being able to read and write makes them all really smart, lol.....Even a monkey can be taugh to read and write just as well given some time, it's IQ will remain low however...intelligent is a gift not earned through reading, writing. The end.

 

[glugglug]

Those IQ numbers are exaggerated, but the trend is correct.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: RobCur
dunno, but who cares anyway???

probably the same people who passed these familiar gems around

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[SludgeFactory]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Those IQ numbers are exaggerated, but the trend is correct.

no it's not, a lot of states are in different order in the revised list.

 

[Bonesdad]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: ntdzPercisely. Liberals have this stupid idea in their head that they are more educated than conservatives. I guess thats why conservatives make way more money than them.

HAHAHAHA! Now, that's worth a and a :beer:!

I suppose you mean fine upstanding people like those at Enron, Toys R Us and all the other corporate devils who are educated enough to know how to keep uneducated people "in their place" by limiting their income and ability to educate their children. I thought that's what you meant.

 

[joshw10]

This thread is like 5th grade. Arguing over who is smarter or makes more money...give it a rest. :roll:

 

[Carbo]

Originally posted by: Bonesdad I suppose you mean fine upstanding people like those at Enron, Toys R Us and all the other corporate devils who are educated enough to know how to keep uneducated people "in their place" by limiting their income and ability to educate their children. I thought that's what you meant.

Please tell us you're joking with that comment! I mean, are there really folks out there who believe the world is all roses and fragrance? That big business is all about charity and equality? I've got news for you, Beaver. All men are not created equal. Life has winners and losers. There will be employers and employees. The haves and the have nots. Do yourself a favor and get out into the real world, or you'll find yourself in the latter categories.
Hold on........yes, I just reread what you wrote. You really did say "...the other corporate devils who are educated enough to know how to keep uneducated people "in their place" by limiting their income and ability to educate their children." Unbelievable! :roll:

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: joshw10

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: illustri
Bush|Kerry

No High School (4%) 49% +10 50% 0%

H.S. Graduate (22%) 52% +3 47% 0%

Some College (32%) 54% +3 46% 0%

College Graduate (26%) 52% +1 46% 1%

Postgrad Study (16%) 44% +0 55% 1%

getting an education doesnt make you a success. Making money is being successful (besides happiness,family,etc). I know plenty of people with college degrees that mow people's lawns or are waiters. Besides, thats pretty even between the two.

You're still in high school right? You know there are a lot of people (not me) who have very high level of education but dont make a lot of money, often by choice, because its not what they want to do. Teachers are a good example. You can also be very uneducated and make a lot of money (show business, pro sports)

still in high school? try again. It's true, there are some very noble professions that don't make that much money. Business people, in my opinion, are the backbone of our society and our country. They are the ones making the money, employing people and making this economy grow. What good is it to educate someone if there won't be a job for them?

Okay, i don't care if you are a Democrat or Republican, but that is one of the most narrowminded comments I have ever seen. I guess your idea of going to college is to get a job? Right? And Highschool is supposed to prepare us soley for college..

Horace Man...where are you and the ideals you initially preached?

 

[Sureshot324]

The explanation is simple. People are selfish. The rich know they are better off with a republican, and the poor know they are better off with a liberal. It's got nothing to do with education.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: joshw10

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: illustri
Bush|Kerry

No High School (4%) 49% +10 50% 0%

H.S. Graduate (22%) 52% +3 47% 0%

Some College (32%) 54% +3 46% 0%

College Graduate (26%) 52% +1 46% 1%

Postgrad Study (16%) 44% +0 55% 1%

getting an education doesnt make you a success. Making money is being successful (besides happiness,family,etc). I know plenty of people with college degrees that mow people's lawns or are waiters. Besides, thats pretty even between the two.

You're still in high school right? You know there are a lot of people (not me) who have very high level of education but dont make a lot of money, often by choice, because its not what they want to do. Teachers are a good example. You can also be very uneducated and make a lot of money (show business, pro sports)

still in high school? try again. It's true, there are some very noble professions that don't make that much money. Business people, in my opinion, are the backbone of our society and our country. They are the ones making the money, employing people and making this economy grow. What good is it to educate someone if there won't be a job for them?

Okay, i don't care if you are a Democrat or Republican, but that is one of the most narrowminded comments I have ever seen. I guess your idea of going to college is to get a job? Right? And Highschool is supposed to prepare us soley for college..

Horace Man...where are you and the ideals you initially preached?

yeah, thats the point of college. To get a better job. Anyone who says otherwise is nieve.

 

[illustri]

Originally posted by: ntdz
yeah, thats the point of college. To get a better job. Anyone who says otherwise is nieve.

Are you even in HIGH SCHOOL ntdz?

edit
Ok that was too harsh. It might surprise you that there are many people who go to college for reasons other than finiancial gain. The only real naivety (should you respond with this attack) is believing everyone else thinks the way you do.

 

[imhotepmp]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Bonesdad I suppose you mean fine upstanding people like those at Enron, Toys R Us and all the other corporate devils who are educated enough to know how to keep uneducated people "in their place" by limiting their income and ability to educate their children. I thought that's what you meant.

Please tell us you're joking with that comment! I mean, are there really folks out there who believe the world is all roses and fragrance? That big business is all about charity and equality? I've got news for you, Beaver. All men are not created equal. Life has winners and losers. There will be employers and employees. The haves and the have nots. Do yourself a favor and get out into the real world, or you'll find yourself in the latter categories.
Hold on........yes, I just reread what you wrote. You really did say "...the other corporate devils who are educated enough to know how to keep uneducated people "in their place" by limiting their income and ability to educate their children." Unbelievable! :roll:

whats unbelievable? Do you realize that in california the education has had a HUGE budget cut. Who suffered for it? Not the UC's, but of course the cal states and the community colleges. our tuition has gone up nearly 30% at the cal states. Now, who goes to these universities? Hmm, lets see, socially disadvantaged people. People who cant afford the ridiculously high tuition of UC's. Sure does seem like thats making it more difficult for the poor to get educated.

 

[Risiko]

Yeah, what is nidz talking about. Money isn't everything. Sure, you need to make enough to sustain yourself and your family, but more money doesn't equal more happiness or a better person, or, hell, more success. Success is in the eye of the beholder, and apparently, ntdz sees money as success. MORE MONEY = BETTER PERSON!@!!1!!11!!11

 

[Carbo]

whats unbelievable? Do you realize that in california the education has had a HUGE budget cut. Who suffered for it? Not the UC's, but of course the cal states and the community colleges. our tuition has gone up nearly 30% at the cal states. Now, who goes to these universities? Hmm, lets see, socially disadvantaged people. People who cant afford the ridiculously high tuition of UC's. Sure does seem like thats making it more difficult for the poor to get educated.

I didn't realize you were a victim of life's circumstances. Your position is the classic liberal stance of entitlement: I want, and the government owes me.