Interesting note about the election

[Prodigy^]

Ok this is *unverified* but if it's true it's kinda funny

"Here are a few interesting statistics from a breakdown map of counties won by George Bush and Albert Gore (link) as compiled by law professor Joseph Olson. The last item is, perhaps, the most telling.

Counties won by Bush: 2,434
Counties won by Gore: 677

Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million
Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million

Square miles of country won by Bush: 2,427,000
Square miles of country won by Gore: 580,000

States won by Bush: 29
States won by Gore: 19

And now for the most remarkable finding....

Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush: 0.1
Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2

The Federalist's crack staff of researchers found one more interesting fact that might help explain these disparate murder rates. Gun ownership in the counties won by Mr. Bush is much higher than in the counties won by Mr.Gore! "

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ok to my own addition:

Number of jokes this presidential race has added to The Tonight Show /w Jay Leno: one billion

 

[zippy]

<< Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million
Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million >>


<sarcasm>Ohhhhh, so that's why Gore won the popular vote! Ooooookay....</sarcasm>

It does matter how many hickville counties Bush wins, what matters is how many people voted for each candidate. Heh, actually, even that doesn't matter because of the Electoral College.



<< Counties won by Bush: 2,434
Counties won by Gore: 677
Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million
Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million
Square miles of country won by Bush: 2,427,000
Square miles of country won by Gore: 580,000
States won by Bush: 29
States won by Gore: 19
Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush: 0.1
Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2 >>


You're going to tell me that those stats sound REAL to you?! :Q
By the way, maybe someone should tell &quot;the federalist&quot; that there are 50 states nowadays.

 

[T2T III]

The findings seem about right one. Mostly thugs looking for a hand out or a social program that will benefit them (welfare, etc.) will usually always vote for a Democrat.

Meanwhile, most logical business owners and corporations will vote for the Republican party.

Disclaimer: While I know some of you in this forum voted for Gore, please accept my appologies for calling you a thug.

 

[Stealth1024]

You forgot one:

Average IQ of Gore voter: <80

 

[zippy]

<< Average IQ of Gore voter: <80 >>


Oh, so those hicks that live out in the boonies that voted for Bush have IQs of 160+? I never would have thought!

 

[zippy]

Picture of the &quot;Federalist&quot; Logo

Read their &quot;about&quot; page.


<< The Federalist is the Internet's Journal of Record for the modern conservative revolution inspired by Ronald Reagan, a revolution waged by the American people against the prospect of a tyrannical government which threatens the very liberty that gave it rise. >>


Doesn't sound like a biased source to me!

 

[NesuD]

you don't sound to biased either Zippy lighten up

 

[T2T III]

<< Oh, so those hicks that live out in the boonies that voted for Bush have IQs of 160+? >>


Do you have any facts that people in the boonies voted for Bush? Hicks that rely on welfare and other social programs love the Democrats. Most corporations (generally people with higher IQs) mostly vote for Republicans. However, there is one thing that threw me off a little with this election - several hi-tech companies voted for Gore - WTF?

 

[zippy]

I am actually a moderate democrat.

But when people go around throwing ridiculous claims around, that just pisses me off.

BTW, I'll try and find the stats on the hick counties later today and I'll post them for you wje. Not all hicks are on welfare. Also, many enjoy their 2nd amendment right. Yes, that is stereotypical, but largely true.

 

[apoppin]

More About The Federalist (from their web site):

<<We are -- first and foremost -- conservatives, charged with advocating the timeless and enduring Judeo-Christian truths reflected in our American heritage and set forth in our nation's Founding documents.

. . . GOOD NEWS, a quote from Scripture; FAMILY, featuring current quotes of importance to families; FAITH, featuring current quotes relevant to our faith;>>

Not at all biased.

 

[Russ]

Attack the source all you want. The stats are fact. This information has been posted at dozens of sites, and published in dozens of newspapers all over the country.

Hell, it's been posted here at least ten times over the last three weeks.

Russ, NCNE

 

[apoppin]

Just like your facts, Russ <<President-Elect Bush>>.

A little premature wouldn't you agree.

Please post a source that can at least be respected that will confirm your facts.

 

[Russ]

apoppin,

Do I look like your Mommy, or a democrat? Get off your ass and do your own research, instead of asking for a handout.

Russ, NCNE

 

[apoppin]

<<Do I look like your Mommy, or a democrat? Get off your ass and do your own
research, instead of asking for a handout.>>

I wasn't asking for a &quot;handout&quot;, Russ. Don't get your underwear all in a bunch.
(BTW you don't look like my mommy; but what does a democrat look like?)

I did my own research.

I was simply asking for a credible source.

What I asked for is normal here on the forums; the person posting the &quot;facts&quot; should have his sources. Especially since &quot;The Federalist&quot; is incredible.

Do your agree you previous insistance of calling Bush &quot;President-Elect&quot; was a bit premature?

 

[Russ]

Bush IS President-Elect by LAW. The election is certified. The fact that Goresky is trying to sue his way to the White House does not alter the LAW.

BTW, it was USA Today that produced the map. Is that good enough, or are they too Right Wing for you? Would only, say Salon Magazine or the democrat party be a &quot;credible&quot; source in your eyes?

Russ, NCNE

 

[zippy]

<< Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million
Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million >>


Russ, you admit that Gore won the popular vote, correct? So how could those numbers be correct?


<< States won by Bush: 29
States won by Gore: 19 >>


I could have sworn we had 50 states! Oh well, two got lost in the shuffle I suppose.

 

[apoppin]

<<Bush IS President-Elect by LAW. The election is certified.>>

The Florida election is still disputed.

As I have stated many times before, Governor Bush doesn't yet call himself President-Elect. Your calling him President-Elect is premature.

Finally, I see I was able to get a credible source out of you. Thank-you. The Federalist is incredible to most people.

 

[ltk007]

Zippy, the counties won by Bush might have a higher population, doesn't mean everyone from them votes does it?

 

[64bitloopy]

Does it matter?

just like a democrat, looking at numbers, and not reality.

 

[Harvey]

Russ -- <<Bush IS President-Elect by LAW.>>

Ehn-n-n-n-n!!! < game show buzzer sound > Wrong answer! Bush will be the President-elect WHEN and IF the electoral college makes it so, and not before.

Meanwhile, contrary to the statements of whiny spinmeisters like James Baker, we are nowhere near a Constitutional crisis.

There are no tanks in the streets. There are no generals declaring marshall law. That would be a constitutional crisis. So would be denying any person of any political pursuasion access to the courts to hear their grievances. Since your candidate has made as much use of those courts as Gore, I don't see where you get off pissing and moaning about granting equal access to all sides.

While I'm at it, consider the true meaning behind Bush's request that the U.S. Supreme court should stop the current recount. All they are doing is collecting data. The only thing that stopping the count could accomplish would be to preclude the timely gathering of such data that may be significant to the final outcome. The count can, and should, proceed, regardless of the outcome of any later decision by the court... Or are you afraid that complete information would show that Bush really did not win, afterall?

Your reality check may bounce.

 

[Russ]

<< I could have sworn we had 50 states! Oh well, two got lost in the shuffle I suppose. >>



Zippy,

Here's a hint: The map was produced three weeks ago.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Russ]

<< we are nowhere near a Constitutional crisis. >>



Harvey,

Set off all the buzzers you want, for it is YOU who are wrong. By whose definition does a constitutional crisis involve tanks and Marshal law? Yours? That's laughable.

Steps of that magnitude are a last resort, and are not an automatic function of the crisis. I'm not surprised, though, that you would resort to alarmist hyperbole in an effort to bolster a flagging argument.

The actions by the democrats, and their puppets on the Florida Supreme Court, ARE sending this thing on the path to a forced decision by Congress. Because of the many possible solution scenarios, we could, indeed, end up in crisis.

The blame for this lays squarely at Gore's feet.



<< All they are doing is collecting data. The only thing that stopping the count could accomplish would be to preclude the timely gathering of such data that may be significant to the final outcome. >>



HaHa. Good one. They are not collecting data, they are creating votes for Gore where NONE existed. The only people who believe this process is objective are children and democrats, and the polls indicate that children are starting to wise up.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Harvey]

Russ -- By whose definition does a constitutional crisis involve tanks and Marshal law?[/b]

Hmmm... Your attention span seems to be a bit short of a complete paragarph. I cited that as one example of a Constitutional crisis. If you had kept reading, you would have seen that I also said that denying any person of any political pursuasion access to the courts to hear their grievances would be one. The sentence that follows should give you some pause to reflect.

Excuse me, but just who are you to deny anyone their right to use the courts? Do you want to extend that to me, or even yourself? That would be a genuine Constitutional crisis.

The actions by the democrats, and their puppets on the Florida Supreme Court, ARE sending this thing on the path to a forced decision by Congress. Because of the many possible solution scenarios, we could, indeed, end up in crisis.

Hardly! If they are following the law, as proscibed by statute and the Constitution, they are merely obeying its dictates. That is in no way a crisis. That is the Constitution in action. The fact that we have never been this far down that particular road does not change that in the least. The fact that we are doing it peacefully speaks volumes of praise for our country and our Constitution to both ourselves and to the watching world.

<<The blame for this lays squarely at Gore's feet.>>

If, by that, you mean that this experience highlights a weakness in our electoral system that has needed our attention for decades, one, I might add, that is quite easily mended by the judicious application of inexpensive, contemporary technology (plus the willpower to undertake the task), then I think the correct word is credit, not blame.

Of course, there is a lot of energy surrounding these precise events. Egos, power and far too much money are on the line. If we come out of this with the will to do something to fix the system, and to get rid of the corrupting influence of big money on all sides, we will be so much the better for it.

They are not collecting data, they are creating votes for Gore where NONE existed.

I see. I guess you have seen all the ballots, and you know this for a fact. THAT is a laughable assertion! Even the circuit court judge hasn't seen them. That was a major reason he was overruled. At least, he had the fairness of mind to recuse himself from further participation in the case.

I make no presumptions about the outcome of the recount, and regardless of your premature bias to the contrary, I can only hope that it will be impartial. The Florida Supreme Court ordered all undercounted ballots in every county to be recounted, not just the few that Gore requested. For all I know, they could show Bush to be the winner. I think you have a problem accepting the possibility that the opposite could be true.

Why do I doubt that you would hold these same beliefs if the situation were reversed?

 

[Prodigy^]

Russ, please stop spreading that negative attitude with your dreams of Bush being the president, ok? I don't care who wins really, I just want all the votes to be counted.

zippy.....nice to see you again ROFL, yeah they might be a tad biased...lol...but that's how it is with many, many news sources in this world, unfortunately

also, Gore still won the popular vote.....the population count thing just means the population of bush-won states, compared to population of gore-won states. and everything, especially not florida, wasn't decided 3 weeks ago

final note: Harvey, close your Italics-tags

 

[JellyBaby]

<< I don't care who wins really, I just want all the votes to be counted. >>

Do you, Prodigy? Because, unless I'm mistaken, only Florida is priviledged enough to undergo this inaccurate, partisan recount. You would be 100% correct if God herself appeared and counted each and every vote impartially. But in FL you've got Ds and Rs milling about the place attempting to read intent, contesting chads, changing standards and running amuck.

And did Gore really win the popular vote? Hmmm 250K votes is well within the margain for error. And if you remove NY and Cali, which greatly influenced it, Bush won. There were oodles of absentee ballots that weren't even counted. As I see it Gore was favored by a mere 25% of america, since half didn't vote at all (though I'm sure Gore will soon try to convince us they may have intended to vote for him and thus we should begin a serious of telephone calls just to make sure).