Interesting info on France's prison population

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Stunt
BBond. Thanks for the link 🙂

France has 85 ppl in prison per 100,000
Canada has 105 per 100,000
US has 686 per 100,000

even china has less prisoners than the US.
China 111 per 100,000

You're welcome, Stunt.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Blacks represent about 13% of the US population and about 40% of the prison population.

Muslims represent about 10% of the French population and over 50% of the prison population.

You do the math.

almost equally racist 😉

I take it by the wink that you are kidding. There are >25% more Muslisms in prison in France than blacks in the US even though Muslims represent a smaller fraction of the population.

If you consider that equivalent, I'd love to barter with you.

You need to compare how many people are actually in jail. I believe you lead that percentage by far.

Here's a link to a .pdf of world prison population.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf

USA, 1,962,220

France, 50,714

You do the math, Rip. And do some research before you start trolling next time. You might avoid making a fool of yourself.

But I doubt it.

You forgot this info from that website:

The List has a number of weaknesses. It lacks information on
17 independent countries and figures do not relate to the
same date. Comparability is further compromised by
different practice in different countries, for example with
regard to whether all pre-trial detainees and juveniles are
held under the authority of the prison administration, and
also whether the prison administration is responsible for
psychiatrically ill offenders and offenders being detained for
treatment for alcoholism. People held in custody are usually
omitted from national totals if they are not under the authority
of the prison administration.

Over 1/2 of prison inmates in France are Muslims even though they represent only 10% of the population. Prisons in Europe are breeding grounds for Muslim extremists.

Do you dispute this?

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I'm proud of denmark for once by this one. We're at 59!

It's insane gow many prisoners you have, i can hardly believe it. What's the reason for that?

And btw, why did riprorin stop posting? (pwnd 😀?)

I had to take my son to karate lessons and my daughter to gymnastics.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Blacks represent about 13% of the US population and about 40% of the prison population.

Muslims represent about 10% of the French population and over 50% of the prison population.

You do the math.

almost equally racist 😉

I take it by the wink that you are kidding. There are >25% more Muslisms in prison in France than blacks in the US even though Muslims represent a smaller fraction of the population.

If you consider that equivalent, I'd love to barter with you.

You need to compare how many people are actually in jail. I believe you lead that percentage by far.

Here's a link to a .pdf of world prison population.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf

USA, 1,962,220

France, 50,714

You do the math, Rip. And do some research before you start trolling next time. You might avoid making a fool of yourself.

But I doubt it.

You forgot this info from that website:

The List has a number of weaknesses. It lacks information on
17 independent countries and figures do not relate to the
same date. Comparability is further compromised by
different practice in different countries, for example with
regard to whether all pre-trial detainees and juveniles are
held under the authority of the prison administration, and
also whether the prison administration is responsible for
psychiatrically ill offenders and offenders being detained for
treatment for alcoholism. People held in custody are usually
omitted from national totals if they are not under the authority
of the prison administration.

Over 1/2 of prison inmates in France are Muslims even though they represent only 10% of the population. Prisons in Europe are breeding grounds for Muslim extremists.

Do you dispute this?

Should the Dub launch a preemptive invasion of Frances Prisons?

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Blacks represent about 13% of the US population and about 40% of the prison population.

Muslims represent about 10% of the French population and over 50% of the prison population.

You do the math.

almost equally racist 😉

I take it by the wink that you are kidding. There are >25% more Muslisms in prison in France than blacks in the US even though Muslims represent a smaller fraction of the population.

If you consider that equivalent, I'd love to barter with you.

You need to compare how many people are actually in jail. I believe you lead that percentage by far.

Here's a link to a .pdf of world prison population.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf

USA, 1,962,220

France, 50,714

You do the math, Rip. And do some research before you start trolling next time. You might avoid making a fool of yourself.

But I doubt it.

You forgot this info from that website:

The List has a number of weaknesses. It lacks information on
17 independent countries and figures do not relate to the
same date. Comparability is further compromised by
different practice in different countries, for example with
regard to whether all pre-trial detainees and juveniles are
held under the authority of the prison administration, and
also whether the prison administration is responsible for
psychiatrically ill offenders and offenders being detained for
treatment for alcoholism. People held in custody are usually
omitted from national totals if they are not under the authority
of the prison administration.

Over 1/2 of prison inmates in France are Muslims even though they represent only 10% of the population. Prisons in Europe are breeding grounds for Muslim extremists.

Do you dispute this?

I absolutely agree. But it's the same all over the world, not only in france. Here it just happens to be muslims. They're simply treating prisoners wrong! All imo.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: freegeeks

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Blacks represent about 13% of the US population and about 40% of the prison population.

Muslims represent about 10% of the French population and over 50% of the prison population.

You do the math.

almost equally racist 😉

I take it by the wink that you are kidding. There are >25% more Muslisms in prison in France than blacks in the US even though Muslims represent a smaller fraction of the population.

If you consider that equivalent, I'd love to barter with you.

You need to compare how many people are actually in jail. I believe you lead that percentage by far.

Here's a link to a .pdf of world prison population.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf

USA, 1,962,220

France, 50,714

You do the math, Rip. And do some research before you start trolling next time. You might avoid making a fool of yourself.

But I doubt it.

You forgot this info from that website:

The List has a number of weaknesses. It lacks information on
17 independent countries and figures do not relate to the
same date. Comparability is further compromised by
different practice in different countries, for example with
regard to whether all pre-trial detainees and juveniles are
held under the authority of the prison administration, and
also whether the prison administration is responsible for
psychiatrically ill offenders and offenders being detained for
treatment for alcoholism. People held in custody are usually
omitted from national totals if they are not under the authority
of the prison administration.

Over 1/2 of prison inmates in France are Muslims even though they represent only 10% of the population. Prisons in Europe are breeding grounds for Muslim extremists.

Do you dispute this?

Should the Dub launch a preemptive invasion of Frances Prisons?

Why stop at the prisons? 🙂

Have you considered that maybe the French should deal with the problem?

 

[BBond]

My point in this is; with the world leading, abyssmal prison statistics here in the USA, what are you worried about France for?

Fifty percent of the 50,000 prisoners in France is 25,000. We have almost 2 million in prisons here in the USA and 54% of them are in for drug charges.

I can't understand your obsession with France's prison population when their total prison population is only .025% of ours.

Or maybe I can. You're trolling again.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond
My point in this is; with the world leading, abyssmal prison statistics here in the USA, what are you worried about France for?

Fifty percent of the 50,000 prisoners in France is 25,000. We have almost 2 million in prisons here in the USA and 54% of them are in for drug charges.

I can't understand your obsession with France's prison population when their total prison population is only .025% of ours.

Or maybe I can. You're trolling again.

I didn't know that it was a zero-sum game. I can't be concerned about France's prison population (which is spawning Islamic terrorists hell-bent on destorying America) and the US's?

 

[her209]

Several points:

There are blacks who are muslim.
Not all Muslims are black.
Do those US numbers include Gitmo?
How can you be racist towards a religion?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
My point in this is; with the world leading, abyssmal prison statistics here in the USA, what are you worried about France for?

Fifty percent of the 50,000 prisoners in France is 25,000. We have almost 2 million in prisons here in the USA and 54% of them are in for drug charges.

I can't understand your obsession with France's prison population when their total prison population is only .025% of ours.

Or maybe I can. You're trolling again.

I didn't know that it was a zero-sum game. I can't be concerned about France's prison population (which is spawning Islamic terrorists hell-bent on destorying America) and the US's?

You're pathetic. Now we hear the real reason behind your post. It's not Bush's massacre of civilians in Iraq that is spawning Islamic terrorists, it's the French penal system.

That's one pathetic attempt at switching blame.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: her209
Several points:

There are blacks who are muslim.

Knew that.

Not all Muslims are black.

Knew that too.

Do those US numbers include Gitmo?

No.

How can you be racist towards a religion?

Could be a religion composed of one race. Or, as in the case of Israel, a religion which claims to be a race.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: BBond
My point in this is; with the world leading, abyssmal prison statistics here in the USA, what are you worried about France for?

Fifty percent of the 50,000 prisoners in France is 25,000. We have almost 2 million in prisons here in the USA and 54% of them are in for drug charges.

I can't understand your obsession with France's prison population when their total prison population is only .025% of ours.

Or maybe I can. You're trolling again.

:thumbsup:

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
My point in this is; with the world leading, abyssmal prison statistics here in the USA, what are you worried about France for?

Fifty percent of the 50,000 prisoners in France is 25,000. We have almost 2 million in prisons here in the USA and 54% of them are in for drug charges.

I can't understand your obsession with France's prison population when their total prison population is only .025% of ours.

Or maybe I can. You're trolling again.

I didn't know that it was a zero-sum game. I can't be concerned about France's prison population (which is spawning Islamic terrorists hell-bent on destorying America) and the US's?

Whoa dude, pick a point and stick with it.

You attempt to Bash France for having a Prison Population of 50% Muslim, but at the same time you want to Bash France for spawning Muslim Extremists hellbent on attacking the US. Have you considered that the 2 could be related? That France's prison population is because of all the spawning? Perhaps France has Terrorism under control?

OTOH, what makes you think that all Terrorists are spawned to attack the US? Did you know France, Spain, Germany, Britain, and many other countries have dealt with Terrorists for decades?

Another clueless Rip thread.

 

[b0mbrman]

Wow. I don't agree with Riprorin ever (It's pretty obvious he's pro-Bush which I'm not) but he clearly wasn't given a fair shot in this thread. From the get-go there's been nothing but irrelevant crapping.

I think I understand why though:

Originally posted by: Riprorin
So, are the French racist, or do Muslims just commit a disprprotionate amount of crimes?

Riprorin very cleverly (and sneakily) presented a question where the two logical choices were either to say the French are doing something wrong or that Muslims were doing something wrong.

Forced to choose between two groups with whom the left empathizes strongly (as the US seems often at odds with both), the liberals on this forum panicked and switched back to a topic they were more comfortable with: chastising America 🙂

This is why I love being a moderate Democrat 😉

 

[f95toli]

The article mentions that muslims represent more than 50% of the prison population, unfortunately it does not say anything about how many of those muslims are actuallt French citizens or even live in France.
If the situation is anything like in Sweden a relatively large proportion of those in jail for drug-related crimes are foreigners (meaning people who do not live there).
Considering France close relation to northern Africa I am guessing that could be one reason.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Wow. I don't agree with Riprorin ever (It's pretty obvious he's pro-Bush which I'm not) but he clearly wasn't given a fair shot in this thread. From the get-go there's been nothing but irrelevant crapping.

I think I understand why though:

Originally posted by: Riprorin
So, are the French racist, or do Muslims just commit a disprprotionate amount of crimes?

Riprorin very cleverly (and sneakily) presented a question where the two logical choices were either to say the French are doing something wrong or that Muslims were doing something wrong.

Forced to choose between two groups with whom the left empathizes strongly (as the US seems often at odds with both), the liberals on this forum panicked and switched back to a topic they were more comfortable with: chastising America 🙂

This is why I love being a moderate Democrat 😉

I just think you're trying to play smart. Riprorin just needs to drop his tinfoil hat and stop thinking everybody wants to attack america. They're saying it's the least of your worries.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I just think you're trying to play smart. Riprorin just needs to drop his tinfoil hat and stop thinking everybody wants to attack america. They're saying it's the least of your worries.

Sorry, I don't care enough about people's opinions to play anything.

Anyhow, reading into Rip's responses, it seems he's quite content arguing about the deviations from his original topic so I'm not gonna care any more than he does...

 

[freegeeks]

it seems to me that American foreign policy is more a breeding ground for Islamic terrorists then French prisons

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Forsythe
I just think you're trying to play smart. Riprorin just needs to drop his tinfoil hat and stop thinking everybody wants to attack america. They're saying it's the least of your worries.

Sorry, I don't care enough about people's opinions to play anything.

Anyhow, reading into Rip's responses, it seems he's quite content arguing about the deviations from his original topic so I'm not gonna care any more than he does...

It's pretty obvious that the Libs here aren't going to repsond to the question in the op.

So, are the French racist, or do Muslims just commit a disprprotionate amount of crimes?

There only retort is to change the argument.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
It's pretty obvious that the Libs here aren't going to repsond to the question in the op.

I'm on the liberal side and I would have responded if I had gotten here sooner. Now, there's almost no point as this thread has sorta gone to crap...

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
It's pretty obvious that the Libs here aren't going to repsond to the question in the op.

It's probably not too wise for YOU to complain about people not answering questions, Rip.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Wow. I don't agree with Riprorin ever (It's pretty obvious he's pro-Bush which I'm not) but he clearly wasn't given a fair shot in this thread. From the get-go there's been nothing but irrelevant crapping.

I think I understand why though:

Originally posted by: Riprorin
So, are the French racist, or do Muslims just commit a disprprotionate amount of crimes?

Riprorin very cleverly (and sneakily) presented a question where the two logical choices were either to say the French are doing something wrong or that Muslims were doing something wrong.

Forced to choose between two groups with whom the left empathizes strongly (as the US seems often at odds with both), the liberals on this forum panicked and switched back to a topic they were more comfortable with: chastising America 🙂

This is why I love being a moderate Democrat 😉

No one answered the question because it was so clumsily disguised an attempt. But clueless Rip brought up a subject that the mote in his own eye was making it impossible for him to remove the beam in France's.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
About 10% of the French population is Muslim, yet Muslims represnt more that 50% of the prison population.

So, are the French racist, or do Muslims just commit a disprprotionate amount of crimes?

It's interesting that Europe is one of leading breeding ground for militants.

"Militant converts come to Islam in several ways, most notably through contact with militant Muslims while serving time in Europe's prisons, where the Islamic population has skyrocketed. Richard C. Reid, the so-called shoe bomber from Britain, converted to Islam in prison. France's prison population is more than 50 percent Muslim."

Link

Whats the point of this exactly and why should I care?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Wow. I don't agree with Riprorin ever (It's pretty obvious he's pro-Bush which I'm not) but he clearly wasn't given a fair shot in this thread. From the get-go there's been nothing but irrelevant crapping.

I think I understand why though:

Originally posted by: Riprorin
So, are the French racist, or do Muslims just commit a disprprotionate amount of crimes?

Riprorin very cleverly (and sneakily) presented a question where the two logical choices were either to say the French are doing something wrong or that Muslims were doing something wrong.

Forced to choose between two groups with whom the left empathizes strongly (as the US seems often at odds with both), the liberals on this forum panicked and switched back to a topic they were more comfortable with: chastising America 🙂

This is why I love being a moderate Democrat 😉

😉

 

[Aimster]

Blacks are probably 20% of the Muslim population in the world. What percent of them actually live in France?

We are talking about 25,000 prisoners ... come'n. Also the French do not like Muslims and they also don't seem to like Jews. It's a country where Jews hate Muslims, Muslims hate Jews, French hate all who are not original French blood. (heh).

Plus who do you actually think goes to France? Members of Palestine PLO, Iran's Muhahgedi movement, Hezbollah members, etc. France welcomes anyone and all for some reason.

I'm not suggesting all the Muslims in France are terrorist or have links to those groups, because it's not true if I said that. There are lots of fights and brawls on the streets because of race/religion.