Interesting comment on U.S. conservatives

[vitoprimo]

Today's conservatives [in the U.S.A.] differ in one crucial aspect from yesterday's conservatives: the latter believed in small government, but believed, too, that a country ought to pay for all the government that it needed.

The former believe in no government, and therefore conclude that there is no need for a country to pay for even the government that it does have. ... [But] it is not only government that doesn't show up when government is starved of resources and leached of all its meaning. Community doesn't show up either, sacrifice doesn't show up, pulling together doesn't show up, 'we're all in this together' doesn't show up.

Janadas Devan, a columnist for Straits Times in Singapore

 

[Genx87]

Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

 

[Todd33]

Wow, Stalinist, I guess I didn't expect any real elightenment from you. I guess it's fair to call today's conservative Nazis. See how that works both ways?

The Repubican party is no longer for any ideals, it's just money and power.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, Stalinist, I guess I didn't expect any real elightenment from you. I guess it's fair to call today's conservative Nazis. See how that works both ways?

The Repubican party is no longer for any ideals, it's just money and power.

We already covered todays conservatives as yesterdays liberals.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, Stalinist, I guess I didn't expect any real elightenment from you. I guess it's fair to call today's conservative Nazis. See how that works both ways?

The Republican party is no longer for any ideals, it's just money and power.

We already covered todays conservatives as yesterdays liberals.

Sorry professor. I didn't realize your opinion was gospel.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

Libertarians still support wide open borders...

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

Libertarians still support wide open borders...

No we don't.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

Libertarians still support wide open borders...

That is actually an issue libertarians are divided on. As a libertarian, I personally do not support wide open borders.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

You meant that you're a partisan hack (i.e. a tool), to which I agree.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

You meant that you're a partisan hack (i.e. a tool), to which I agree.

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

Ok, stick to your incorrect use of a term. So the Liberals are a party that support a strong dictator that makes the working class support the elites. We imprisson and murder millions who disagree with us. Makes sense.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, Stalinist, I guess I didn't expect any real elightenment from you. I guess it's fair to call today's conservative Nazis. See how that works both ways?

The Repubican party is no longer for any ideals, it's just money and power.

We already covered todays conservatives as yesterdays liberals.

Isn't that eternal in a free society though?

You will continue being what we were yesterday?

 

[Engineer]

tax and spend : slightly smaller deficits

cut tax and spend even more: huge deficits

There are NO fiscal conservatives left, sadly, in DC.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

You meant that you're a partisan hack (i.e. a tool), to which I agree.

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

No, keep it coming buddy. People like you are basically child molesters.

See? baseless accusations work both ways.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

You meant that you're a partisan hack (i.e. a tool), to which I agree.

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

No, keep it coming buddy. People like you are basically child molesters.

See? baseless accusations work both ways.

That was way out of line dude.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

You meant that you're a partisan hack (i.e. a tool), to which I agree.

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

No, keep it coming buddy. People like you are basically child molesters.

See? baseless accusations work both ways.

Like I said, I hit a nerve.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: totalcommand

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

You meant that you're a partisan hack (i.e. a tool), to which I agree.

Sounds like I hit a nerve.

No, keep it coming buddy. People like you are basically child molesters.

See? baseless accusations work both ways.

Like I said, I hit a nerve.

It's called "the Frontal Lobe," technically many trillions of nerves, but who's counting? Impacts from large, blunt objects should generally be avoided, FYI.



[/zing]

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Genx87
Yesterdays liberals are todays conservatives and todays liberals are stalinists.
Libertarians are the closest thing to yesterdays conservatives.

BTW, I don't think you mean Stalinist. It may be a fancy word you learned on Rush, but it makes no sense with respect to history when applied to Liberals. Perhaps you meant communist, which is the typical response from your type.

Trotskyists argue that the Stalinist USSR was not socialist (and certainly not communist), but a bureaucratized degenerated workers state?that is, a non-capitalist state in which exploitation is controlled by a ruling caste which, while it did not own the means of production and was not a social class in its own right, accrued benefits and privileges at the expense of the working class

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist

Sounds more like the current conservatives to me, just change it to capitalist and it fits well..

I meant Stalinist

That's akin to liberals calling conservatives Nazis. It's stupid partisan rhetoric that appeals to emotion. It doesn't work.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

That's akin to liberals calling conservatives Nazis. It's stupid partisan rhetoric that appeals to emotion. It doesn't work.

If it didn't work, people wouldn't use it.

It's funny on The Daily Show when they do a "Who is going to use the Nazi card first?" bits though.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

That's akin to liberals calling conservatives Nazis. It's stupid partisan rhetoric that appeals to emotion. It doesn't work.

If it didn't work, people wouldn't use it.

It's funny on The Daily Show when they do a "Who is going to use the Nazi card first?" bits though.

I think it does more harm then good really. You won't be winning anybody over by calling someone else a Nazi or Stalinist; you're just going to get people that already agree with you. If someone refers to the other side as Nazi-like or Stalinesque, I immediately ignore what they just said.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

That's akin to liberals calling conservatives Nazis. It's stupid partisan rhetoric that appeals to emotion. It doesn't work.

If it didn't work, people wouldn't use it.

It's funny on The Daily Show when they do a "Who is going to use the Nazi card first?" bits though.

I think it does more harm then good really. You won't be winning anybody over by calling someone else a Nazi or Stalinist; you're just going to get people that already agree with you. If someone refers to the other side as Nazi-like or Stalinesque, I immediately ignore what they just said.

I agree with all of what you said, except if someone refers to the other side as Nazi-like or Stalinesque, I call them child molesters, just so they know how idiotic their comment is.