Originally posted by: paralazarguer
Troll:
1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] edited out...
2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion.
Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."
paralazarguer You do realize the irony of posting this right after Wingznut's post...don't you? The one where he personally attacks me? And by the way, by definition simply calling someone a Troll qualifies your actions to fall under the definition as well. Live by the sword...
Wingznut (Before you read my rant below, by "you" or "we" I do not mean you personally Wingznut, I'm not trying to flame you)
I'm more than happy to discuss the content at hand. I am not happy to engage in discussion with someone who automatically assumes I am being critical of someone else's hard work. I have no problem with Sohcan's "FAQ". What becomes irritating is that people on this forum espouse the "FAQ" as if it is the end-all-be-all of 64bit computing. If the FAQ really is FACT then the author's name or credibility is irrelevant as the material should be able to stand on its own merits. So, let's assume we've gotten past your lame attempt to re-state my msg and make it seem like I was disparaging Sohcan efforts. What's left to discuss? A faq is what it is, someone?s opinion backed up by their opinion of what data and metrics are relevant to prove their opinion. If it makes me a troll for standing up and pointing out that maybe every other Joe Poster on this Forum should do more than assume the FAQ is the end of story then I guess I am a troll. As for 64bit vs 32bit, the topic of discussion between you and me, the simple fact of the matter is I can tell you that neither you nor Sohcan have any idea what people will be doing with 64bit desktop processors in 2 yrs. You can pontificate, wave your hands and claim there will be no benefit to YOU if YOUR applications remain 32bit. The simple fact of the matter is you take today's fat, lethargic, happy crowd of people and we are just as complacent about 32bit PCs becoming 64bit as your parents were when they were concerned about 16bit vs 32bit transition. There is a whole crop of kids getting out of school right now who are busting at the seems with ideas and THEY will be the new generation of people who will take 64bit and do something with it.
Question: How does generation "N" know when generation "N+1" has taken the dynamics of the world?
Answer: When generation "N" thinks it knows what the world will look like when generation "N+1" has...
My Point: We are Generation "N", not in age but in opinions about what we do with our electronics, internet access, etc. The very fact we aggregate at this forum puts in yesterdays group of tech has-beens in how we think about technology. We don't invent the technology, we just bitch about how useless the products are and that the market is going nowhere fast. You want to know what tomorrow will look like? You want to know what a 64bit PC world will be like? Don't ask someone who's got the mind set that 32bit is just right and there is a law of limiting returns, yaddi yaddi. Ask the guys who are actually inventing this stuff, making 21" LCDs a reality, making DDR-II a reality, making 64bit desktop chips a reality. They are doing because they have a vision. If we had a vision then we would be doing it too. But we don't. We just bitch about how lame the day after tomorrow is going to be.
Generation "N+1" is coming, you know you're not part of the next gen when you don't understand what they are doing or why. Everytime you lament about LN2 cooled overclocked systems, 8xraid0 sub-systems, 64bit desktop chips, etc. you are just proving to yourself and those whoe read your posts that your mind has been put out to pasture. You either understand without needing an explanation because you are part of Gen "N+1" or you don't understand and to us that's no different then you making fun of needing to explain how a mouse works to your grandmother Gen "N-1".
Granted, this is a rant. But am I trolling? I don't think so.
And yes, I am 65nm R&D. We do some pretty cool shizt here, but nothing like you guys got going on over at INTC at 65 and 45nm. The world will be a very interesting place in 2006. Not that I know much, but we should be at the point where your mobile phone is pretty much your mobile computing center just as much as laptops are today and PDAs will be tomorrow (if you want them too, I hate small little screens, so will likely be using a laptop still in 2006 but then again I'm Gen "N" and who needs tomorrow's newfangled technology anyways
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