Intel's response to FTC

[DrMrLordX]

Going fabless didn't just give AMD more flexibility; it gave them a better (read: less negative) balance on their books. Globalfoundries is, to my knowledge, still losing money.

I am all for American firms, such as AMD, offloading assets of dubious value to foreign investors.

As an added bonus, thanks to AMD's recent settlement with Intel, AMD will be able to move production of their CPUs to any one of Globalfoundries' competitors (TSMC, etc) as they see fit. That means that AMD can continue to produce and sell CPUs even in the event of Globalfoundries' demise (or in the event that Globalfoundries falls behind in the process-shrinking race).

 

[zsdersw]

From Intel's response:

With respect to remedies, the Complaint proposes to impose a regulatory regime on some of the world's most innovative and well-performing markets in place of the free-market
competition that has produced those results and that the antitrust laws were designed to promote. The Complaint seeks to turn Intel into a public utility. Most notably, the Complaint seeks remedies that would restrict Intel's ability to innovate and develop products that benefit consumers when competitors might be disadvantaged by those innovations, and the Complaint would require that Intel affrmatively aid its competitors. But the Supreme Court has admonished that even monopolists generally have no duty to aid competitors because, among other reasons, enforced sharing of competitive assets with rivals "may lessen the incentive for the monopolist, the rival, or both to invest in those economically beneficial facilities."

 

[Fox5]

God damn, what was AMD's old management if it wasn't poison?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Oh... back in the C2D circa..

Wait 2004 was AMD's timeline... you'd have to be an idiot to buy an Pent-D vs a X2.

Anyhow i reciently got a ph II 955 for a friend... so im in the gray zone between this intel vs amd war.

Both have there strong points, and both dominate where the other doesn't.

Watch who your calling names fella . Ya want to compare finacial statements . If ya get my meaning. Intel P4C was a good chip and beat AMD in alot of bench marks.

 

[tcsenter]

http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9341/091231respanswertocmplt.pdf

In 2004, AMD Executive Vice President Henri Richard, the company's highest ranking sales executive, declared internally that "(i)f you look at it, with an objective set of eyes, you would never buy AMD. I certainly would never buy AMD for a personal system if I wasn't working here."

I don't believe for a second that he was referring to the value and mainstream AMD parts, because objectively, AMD's value and mainstream offerings were highly competitive with Intel (and still are).

I believe he was referring to AMD's flagship performance and enthusiast products (e.g. the super expensive Quad FX platform and Athlon 64 FX processors that performed no better than the more affordable standard/mainstream parts), which were the only segments AMD could not (and still cannot) match at any price.

 

[Fox5]

I don't believe for a second that he was referring to the value and mainstream AMD parts, because objectively, AMD's value and mainstream offerings were highly competitive with Intel (and still are).

I believe he was referring to AMD's flagship performance and enthusiast products (e.g. the super expensive Quad FX platform and Athlon 64 FX processors that performed no better than the more affordable standard/mainstream parts), which were the only segments AMD could not (and still cannot) match at any price.

I disagree, I think it was a combo of a lack of knowledge and advertising about AMD's parts that the average person would never know what AMD was or trust the brand. Besides, you could really only buy AMD as an individual part, very few vendors carried or marketed AMD.

And the lack of a complete package (nvidia didn't come save amd's butts in chipsets until 2004, and even then they were hit or miss from 2004 to 2006) also hurt AMD.

I'd think these would be his reasons.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Where is IDC is all of this?

 

[aigomorla]

Watch who your calling names fella . Intel P4C was a good chip and beat AMD in alot of bench marks.

You chopped only part of my comments... i included this:

Well the original pentium's werent so bad...
.

 

[Nemesis 1]

From Intel's response:

With respect to remedies, the Complaint proposes to impose a regulatory regime on some of the world's most innovative and well-performing markets in place of the free-market
competition that has produced those results and that the antitrust laws were designed to promote. The Complaint seeks to turn Intel into a public utility. Most notably, the Complaint seeks remedies that would restrict Intel's ability to innovate and develop products that benefit consumers when competitors might be disadvantaged by those innovations, and the Complaint would require that Intel affrmatively aid its competitors. But the Supreme Court has admonished that even monopolists generally have no duty to aid competitors because, among other reasons, enforced sharing of competitive assets with rivals "may lessen the incentive for the monopolist, the rival, or both to invest in those economically beneficial facilities."


This is the trueest statement I have read on this whole long drawn out affair.

 

[Nemesis 1]

You chopped only part of my comments... i included this:

I bad

 

[Hyperlite]

Where is IDC is all of this?

Last Activity: 12-26-2009 04:49 AM

huh. that's a bit odd. hope he's alright.

 

[lothar]

AMD was forced into foreign ownership and fabs because of Intel's practices.

Rubbish.

 

[Traxan]

Third, the implication of the end result of this suit will be enormous for the entire tech industry in the long run, but the first corporation that will live or die to the verdict is likely NVIDIA. (read the FTC's complaint as well as Intel's response if you haven't already) In your opinion, is NVIDIA American company?

Thank God there's one adult in this thread.

Have ANY of you reactionaries even read the FTC's proposed remedies and Intel's response? Intel is dead on right. The FTC is proposing to strip Intel of virtually all of its autonomy as an independent company and leave it essentially run by the government. If Intel doesn't want to license some IP, well, too farking bad, the FTC will make it.

That little shrimp at nVidia better think twice about supporting this. In the last 15 years, nV has destroyed far more competitors than Intel, although not deliberately (that we know)
the way Barrett tried to kill AMD. That dog that bites Intel will turn around and bite his ass next.

 

[zsdersw]

Intel is dead on right. The FTC is proposing to strip Intel of virtually all of its autonomy as an independent company and leave it essentially run by the government. If Intel doesn't want to license some IP, well, too farking bad, the FTC will make it.

Indeed.