Discussion Intel's past, present and future

[igor_kavinski]

Someone commented:

2017: "AMD's CPU dies are glued together" - Intel
2025: "We can't afford glue" - Intel

Priceless. Just 8 years of AMD using the Zen hammer consistently to crack the head of the 800 pound gorilla wide open and now it's looking like it will need to beg for medical treatment.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Another comment:

As someone who works at an intel campus can confirm, the company is mostly cooked. 25% layoffs devastated all areas; eliminating 20+ yrs senior techs the buyout was too good, can't blame them. Attrition + the 2nd round of layoffs gutted areas so hard they just kept bleeding people, truly some areas are just running on life support; machines can't get fixed cause there's no one there etc. Ain't looking so good.

 

[511]

Someone commented:

2017: "AMD's CPU dies are glued together" - Intel
2025: "We can't afford glue" - Intel

Priceless. Just 8 years of AMD using the Zen hammer consistently to crack the head of the 800 pound gorilla wide open and now it's looking like it will need to beg for medical treatment.

People without knowing Intel used the glue before AMD and Intel cooked themselves

 

[511]

Another comment:

Man I am hearing both things there are some teams had too much bloat some were too thin and stretched. LBT doesn't like bloated team.
The one thing is certain Talent is being bled.

 

[DrMrLordX]

MEDS

Lame, it's already annoying when @adroc_thurston does this.

or better, open a book

Uh huh.

 

[fastandfurious6]

I'm genuinely sorry for every non-billionaire human in this planet who thinks capitalism good.....

Hope you get well soon 💐

 

[igor_kavinski]

Lame, it's already annoying when @adroc_thurston does this.

Meditations. Lots and lots of meditations

 

[coercitiv]

saw the link to former ceo craig 10 point plan and wrote this before reading it, just read it, almost 100% agree

You agree with the part of keeping Intel in one piece while infusing it with $40B?

We can't blame capitalism for Intel's failures.

They probably cumulatively spent more than $40B on share buybacks. Capitalism as we experience it today is seriously broken, but I 100% agree this is not the time and place to discuss such a topic.

Hope you get well soon 💐

There's no need for this, you can agree to disagree and move on.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I'm genuinely sorry for every non-billionaire human in this planet who thinks capitalism good.....

It only works as long as a company takes its social responsibility seriously. The moment it stops caring about the workers who do the actual work and starts rewarding the sociopath executives for being the worst pricks, capitalism fails. I bet there were thousands of employees at Intel who knew how to make Intel better but they had no say in the matter because the people calling the shots were too arrogant to listen to their subordinates.

 

[Thibsie]

Now if trump doesn't suffer a short term memory loss and forget LBT's history he just learned about, hopefully Intel can get to a good place.

Whatever he does or doesn't it will be thanks to him Intel is Great Again.

/s

 

[DrMrLordX]

They probably cumulatively spent more than $40B on share buybacks.

Intel has a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profits for the shareholders. The only way a stock buyback makes sense in this light is if that $40 billion can't be spent on anything better (the buybacks amounting to looting the till of a failing business). Unless you really believe that Intel had fallen on such hard times that it could not invest its way out of the problems dating back to (arguably) 14nm, they failed as a corporation to meet those fiduciary responsibilities. They make poor capitalists.

Capitalism as we experience it today is seriously broken

*points at AMD* they're doing just fine, despite a few needless stock buybacks of their own.

sociopath executives

Such as Lisa Su?

capitalism fails.

In this case, it is simply Intel that fails. The fact that they wanted money was not the problem. It is a cheap and foolish excuse for poor decision-making and incompetence to blame the failure of a firm such as Intel on some ism or another.