intel's newest 2013-2014 roadmap

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Looking at the legend it seems no 14nm products in 2014... We will have Haswell's refresh and Haswell-E in server segment to replace IB-E.

 

[ShintaiDK]

No 14nm contradicts the statements of the CFO and CEO. Fabs are to start 14nm production in Q4 2013.

There are no legend for "blue" either. Not to mention its a desktop roadmap. So currently I wouldnt put much into it.

The picture is also together with this:

Seems abit crude.

 

[inf64]

In the image above it's clearly haswell as a base CPU for the "new" platform.
I personally doubt we will see Haswell's desktop equivalent on 14nm next year. Let's see.

 

[SiliconWars]

There is no chance of any 14nm desktop parts next year. ShintaiDK must be waiting on the 3rd (or 4th or 5th maybe?) roadmap stating it before he accepts it as proof though.

 

[imported_bman]

I could see Broadwell pushed till 2015, but pushing 14nm Silvermont 2015 makes no sense. Krzanich is gunning for mobile, I would think 14nm Atom in 2014 is top priority for Intel.

 

[SiliconWars]

14nm Atom's will be top priority but not on desktop. Remember you're looking at the desktop roadmap here, that means desktop Atoms as well in this case.

 

[SPBHM]

"lga 2011-3", I wonder if there is any compatibility with older MBs/CPUs.

 

[inf64]

That number 3 makes me suspicious about backwards compatibility.

 

[Edrick]

Isnt Broadwell (14nm) the Haswell refresh?

 

[inf64]

Isnt Broadwell (14nm) the Haswell refresh?

It should have been. The latest roadmap shows Haswell's refresh more like a clock bump and lists it as 22nm. So it essentially is probably 1 or 2 speed bins (3.6 or 3.7Ghz stock 4C/8T part) over 4770K we have today. Check the legend on the bottom of the roadmap.

 

[frozentundra123456]

It should have been. The latest roadmap shows Haswell's refresh more like a clock bump and lists it as 22nm. So it essentially is probably 1 or 2 speed bins (3.6 or 3.7Ghz stock 4C/8T part) over 4770K we have today. Check the legend on the bottom of the roadmap.

You may well be correct, but the source of the information was the old standby "our sources". Nowhere that I could find did they say that slide was an official Intel roadmap or that Intel made an official statement to that effect.

 

[inf64]

It's vrzone and to me it really does look like intel's roadmap. The supporting slide (that shintai linked) also corresponds well with the 1st roadmap slide.

 

[jpiniero]

Yeah, it's pretty much confirmed - Intel is pulling an nVidia. Raise the base clock speed by 100-200 Mhz, and call it 5th Gen

It really appears that the only new features for Broadwell are:
- PCH on package
- Faster GPU
- A few minor new instructions

CPU IPC increase may very well be 0.

 

[Phynaz]

You guys are ware that's not an Intel slide, right??

 

[inf64]

Whose slide is it then?

 

[lagokc]

It should have been. The latest roadmap shows Haswell's refresh more like a clock bump and lists it as 22nm. So it essentially is probably 1 or 2 speed bins (3.6 or 3.7Ghz stock 4C/8T part) over 4770K we have today. Check the legend on the bottom of the roadmap.

Either that or the "refresh" is when Intel finally gets around to releasing the dual-core Haswell Celeron/Pentium/i3s.

Yeah, it's pretty much confirmed - Intel is pulling an nVidia. Raise the base clock speed by 100-200 Mhz, and call it 5th Gen

It really appears that the only new features for Broadwell are:
- PCH on package
- Faster GPU
- A few minor new instructions

CPU IPC increase may very well be 0.

Why would you expect new features? Broadwell is a tick just like Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge. Expect some power reduction but don't expect more performance or features. The next desktop chip that might matter is Sky Lake. Anyone with a Sandy Bridge system or better may as well hold onto their money for a while.

 

[jackstar7]

Heck, if they just fixed the die itself to work better with the IHS that could turn the so-so Haswell into something people go out of their way to purchase and play with (OC). I'm just not sure what could be added to make the z97 chipset worth it over z87.

 

[mikk]

Looking at the legend it seems no 14nm products in 2014... We will have Haswell's refresh and Haswell-E in server segment to replace IB-E.

14nm will come in 2014 but they are mobile (BGA) only. Nothing new in this news.

 

[inf64]

14nm will come in 2014 but they are mobile (BGA) only. Nothing new in this news.

"New" is that we see no desktop(Haswell equivalent) and no server 14nm product listed for 2014.

 

[mikk]

"New" is that we see no desktop(Haswell equivalent) and no server 14nm product listed for 2014.

Yes but it is nothing new. We know it since weeks or months.

 

[USER8000]

I do even wonder for mobile,whether we see a phasing in of parts,ie,Ultrabook and high performance parts on 14NM and budget parts on 22NM??

 

[Sweepr]

Notebooks will get Broadwell in mid 2014. Airmont might come earlier to mobile devices too (late 2014?). Haswell refresh could bring more than a few extra MHz. If only AMD had a competitive product that managed to beat Intel's <200mm² quad-cores (w/ IGP) while drawing less than 200W under load then maybe they would bring 6C/12T CPUs to the masses.

 

[inf64]

If only AMD had access to intel's alien process node technology it would be piece of cake

 

[Phynaz]

Whose slide is it then?

VR-Zone I would guess. Nowhere does that slide say Intel on it or have any copyright notices. That right there should tell you it's fake.

 

[Enigmoid]

Yeah, it's pretty much confirmed - Intel is pulling an nVidia. Raise the base clock speed by 100-200 Mhz, and call it 5th Gen

It really appears that the only new features for Broadwell are:
- PCH on package
- Faster GPU
- A few minor new instructions

CPU IPC increase may very well be 0.

Probably very similar to what AMD is doing with Richland (same physical chip but better power characteristics/turbo and higher speeds) though I expect intel to do slightly more.