How I think people talking about their desktop markets forgets how in dire straights their server products are. Not in a sales level but a supply level. Intel is spending billions getting more capacity out 14nm because of the 10nm CF. That's stuff that won't even be turned on till later this year or early next year (should tell you their 10nm confidence). They are releasing a 2 die 48c CPU to keep up with demand and lower the demand on EPYC. Most of the super large data center and hpc customers will want those CPU's. Meaning constrained supply, which means for every die they sell that isn't one of those, is less they have to sell to their major customers. If you want a reason why 9900k is $500 its because Intel had to push margins up on that to make sure it offset the wafer production impact it had vs those 28c dies a 10c die just increases it's impact on Server CPU supply even more. They know they have to keep up. But its dragging them down. The 1090k or whatever it is called isn't going to be able to compete with a 12c Ryzen let alone the 16c. Because the power requirements to maintain high clocks just isn't going to be reasonable (200+ is my guess) and they can't really compete with AMD on price. They aren't really going to be able to get away with really lowering the price on the 8c chips anyways. Also pricing on the 3900x is probably where AMD can park the 3950x if they wanted taking the 12 down to $400 or so if they really needed to.If true, there is merit to the idea as it allows Intel to be more competitive with the Ryzen 3000 lineup. Obviously it won't beat the 3950X but everything below that should look more competitive. Like others I'm dubious about how hot the 10C part will run though. Is 14nm fully tapped out or is there one last round of optimisation left in it?
I actually wrote on these forums a while back that enabling HT on all SKUs was Intel's last 'low hanging fruit' until they sort out their 10nm mess. It makes sense because there is almost no reason at all to get a 9th gen core CPU unless you're chasing high fps gaming.
I don't see how this doesn't stay basically status quo, with one really disappointing Halo product.