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I and pretty much everybody underestimated the impact of artificial intelligence. If you look at AI chips today, the performance of the chips has continued to increase for AI computation, but the power efficiency of those chips hasn't changed for three generations.
 

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Of course, it's a tendency to put in electricity anyway...
For example, even if the efficiency increases due to the evolution of architecture or the evolution of the process. Even if the performance of the previous generation can be realized with less power... People tend to add more power and try to improve their performance…
Maybe there will be a limit somewhere?
Personally, I think Rubin Ultra's NVL rack is too much. Even a hyperscaler It seems that the introduction will be in agony
 

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Intel Just Blinked—And It Could Mean A Breakup Is Coming​

ByJim Osman,

  • It’s Not a Breakup—Yet
    But the structure is forming. Cost cleanup, customer separation, and narrative control are classic pre-spin behavior. If this procedure continues, Intel could emerge not just leaner—but split. And the market tends to reward clarity.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimosm...linked-and-it-could-mean-a-breakup-is-coming/
another article building on top of returs 🤣
 
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The cancer Pat tried to feed is finally gonna be removed I guess. And like the Hela cell line, it will live forever. Amen!
 

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The cancer Pat tried to feed is finally gonna be removed I guess. And like the Hela cell line, it will live forever. Amen!
if you mean the action of swan and kranzich than sure pat's two isses were not focusing on GPGPU and overbuilding fabs that's it i never liked their Germany and Poland expansions.
 
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The cancer Pat tried to feed is finally gonna be removed I guess. And like the Hela cell line, it will live forever. Amen!
It was Pat Gelsinger that recognized the power wall during the Netburst days before anyone did.

There were legitimate reasons why many people believed he would be excellent CEO. And he truly was. Employee rated number 1 in the entire country. 99% approval rating.
 
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There were legitimate reasons why many people believed he would be excellent CEO. And he truly was. Employee rated number 1 in the entire country. 99% approval rating.
If he had gotten the architecture teams at Intel to start a brand new core the minute he started at Intel, we could've been enjoying the fruit of that labor by now. I think age affected his judgement. He took the job for granted. Judging by Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake architectures, it's like he spent 5 minutes with those teams in total and distracted by the grand fab plans he was looking at the whole time, he distractedly said, "Oh sure. Go ahead. I trust you guys will do fine".
 
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If he had gotten the architecture teams at Intel to start a brand new core the minute he started at Intel
Isn't that what the unified core is supposed to be? And I don't know the exact timeline but wasn't unified core started during his time as CEO once Royal Core/Royal Cove was scrapped?
 
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Isn't that what the unified core is supposed to be? And I don't know the exact timeline but wasn't unified core started during his time as CEO once Royal Core/Royal Cove was scrapped?
Yes it was started under pat and he scrapped Royal sometimes early last year
 
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Isn't that what the unified core is supposed to be? And I don't know the exact timeline but wasn't unified core started during his time as CEO once Royal Core/Royal Cove was scrapped?
He started it too late. I think in 2024. No idea if "his" unified core will make it to the finishing line without being modified due to whatever personnel changes during LBT's tenure.
 

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He started it too late. I think in 2024. No idea if "his" unified core will make it to the finishing line without being modified due to whatever personnel changes during LBT's tenure.
man you can tell you have never worked in anything of complexity + size + development. you sure your not Elon?
 
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Intel Just Blinked—And It Could Mean A Breakup Is Coming​

ByJim Osman,

  • It’s Not a Breakup—Yet
    But the structure is forming. Cost cleanup, customer separation, and narrative control are classic pre-spin behavior. If this procedure continues, Intel could emerge not just leaner—but split. And the market tends to reward clarity.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimosm...linked-and-it-could-mean-a-breakup-is-coming/
Strange article. To me it reads as the ramblings of a delusional self-proclaimed expert. He's interpreting critical failures to achieve very difficult engineering feats as business strategy. He's failing to connect the failure to achieve an easier feat (18A) with the inherent doom that spells for the next, more difficult feat (14A).
 

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Strange article. To me it reads as the ramblings of a delusional self-proclaimed expert. He's interpreting critical failures to achieve very difficult engineering feats as business strategy. He's failing to connect the failure to achieve an easier feat (18A) with the inherent doom that spells for the next, more difficult feat (14A).
That's right, everything is right
After all, an analyst is like this
 
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Some of those hardware engineers should've started a mutiny when Intel management tried to make them work on turds like Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake. Now they are all surprised that they are being let go.
 

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Some of those hardware engineers should've started a mutiny when Intel management tried to make them work on turds like Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake. Now they are all surprised that they are being let go.
No, they are also incompetent
Incompetence has no right to say anything about other people
 

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Principal Engineer, Driver Architecture 1
Device Driver Engineer 1
Driver Engineering Manager 2
Driver Validation Engineer 7
11 laid off driver-related employees in Oregon alone. And many test/validation positions listed too.
I am not optimistic about future products having the stability Intel was known for (well, almost a decade ago) but who knows.