Intel's Brookdale chipset (P4-SDRAM) will make appearance @ Computex

[NFS4]

<< At the upcoming Computex show, which is to start in a week?s time already, over 100 mainboard manufacturers are going to present their new products based on Intel Brookdale chipset. The launching of Brookdale chipset will signify the end of RDRAM?s dominance as the only possible memory solution for Pentium 4 and will mark the new era of pentium 4 processor going mainstream. Althoug Intel did its best to make RDRAM mainstream, the analysts predict the RDRAM?s share this year will make 5%-11% at the most, while SDRAM, which is now having about 89% of the entire memory market, will lose only 5%-10%.
It allows mainboard manufacturers to pin great hopes on the upcoming Brookdale based products. Despite the fact that till the end of 2001 Brookdale will be available only with the support for low-performance PC133 SDRAM, all the mainboard makers are very enthusiastic about it anyway.
Take for instance, Gigabyte. This company is going to release up to 7 models of Pentium 4 mainboards with PC133 SDRAM support before the end of Q3 2001. At the same time, the overall number of i850 based mainboards ever developed by Gigabyte makes only 4 pieces. The same situation takes place by other mainboard manufacturers as well. The mainboard makers aren?t concerned about Brookdale + PC133 SDRAM combo to have a lower memory bus bandwidth than by i850 + RDRAM, which may result into lower performance. Judging by the preliminary data from the mainboard manufacturers, the performance difference between the today?s P4 platforms and the upcoming Brookdale + PC133 SDRAM will make from 10% to 20% depending on the application.
As for Brookdale with DDR SDRAM support, it is scheduled only for Q1 2002. By that time DDR SDRAM will occupy about 7% of the overall memory market and will cost only 5% higher than the regular SDRAM. Therefore, the mainboard makers are even more optimistic about Brookdale and DDR memory and even now they have some products on their roadmaps already. >>




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[ViRGE]

Considering what kind of damage an Athlon can do to a P4 right now, won't the P4-PC133 combo just get absolutely wasted by an Athlon with DDR?

 

[NFS4]

<< Considering what kind of damage an Athlon can do to a P4 right now, won't the P4-PC133 combo just get absolutely wasted by an Athlon with DDR? >>


**Shakes Magic 8-Ball**

&quot;My sources say yes&quot;

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Yes, but it will be cheap, and that's all the idiotic average home user cares about.

 

[TravisBickle]

&quot;A fool and his money are easily parted&quot;

 

[MrGrim]

lol @ &quot;my sources&quot;

 

[dowxp]

if it works, it works..
the public does not care about &quot;fast&quot;. just numbers.. $$ =)

 

[NFS4]

<< if it works, it works..
the public does not care about &quot;fast&quot;. just numbers.. $$ =) >>



Athlon 4 1.5GHz system w/ PC2100 = $1,500
Pentium 4 1.7GHz system w/ PC133 = $1,500

&quot;Look honey, the Pentium 4 has more MHz...let's get it. It's probably faster too&quot;

HEHEHEHEHEHEHE, SUCKERS!!!

 

[HaVoC]

I think this makes the P4 a little bit more attractive platform. At least it won't be so ridiculously overpriced as compared to the Athlon.

It remains to be seen what the real world performance penalty of moving to slower SDRAM is for the P4.

 

[HaVoC]

<< &quot;Look honey, the Pentium 4 has more MHz...let's get it. It's probably faster too&quot;HEHEHEHEHEHEHE, SUCKERS!!! >>

Brandon, watch out...Intel may have the last laugh...all the way to the bank. MHz marketing sells...we all know that. I hate to say it but AMD will have to pull some Mhz mojo to win the marketing battle. There are still many people who consider AMD to make inferior products and it will take Mhz to win that battle.

Now don't talk to be about perf/clock, faster real world benchmarks, etc...because I already know that. But what do you think Joe Bloe at CompUSA deciding between the P4 and the Athlon will think?

AMD is no good to us as a competitive CPU maker if they start hurting badly financially. However, I am confident they will continue to offer great competition to Chipzilla.

 

[NFS4]

<<

<< &quot;Look honey, the Pentium 4 has more MHz...let's get it. It's probably faster too&quot;HEHEHEHEHEHEHE, SUCKERS!!! >>

Brandon, watch out...Intel may have the last laugh...all the way to the bank. MHz marketing sells...we all know that. I hate to say it but AMD will have to pull some Mhz mojo to win the marketing battle. There are still many people who consider AMD to make inferior products and it will take Mhz to win that battle.

Now don't talk to be about perf/clock, faster real world benchmarks, etc...because I already know that. But what do you think Joe Bloe at CompUSA deciding between the P4 and the Athlon will think?

AMD is no good to us as a competitive CPU maker if they start hurting badly financially. However, I am confident they will continue to offer great competition to Chipzilla. >>


No one is disputing that fact that Intel will win marketing wise with Brookdale, but the customers are the ones that are gonna get fooled by marketing tactics.

 

[dowxp]

singing:

&quot;this is how we doooo it.&quot;

 

[NFS4]

<< singing:

&quot;this is how we doooo it.&quot; >>


HAHAHAH

This is how we do it
[This is how we do it]
La la la la la la la
La la lo lo lo lo oh
[This is how we do it]
La la la la oh

This is how we do it, it's Friday night
And I feel all right
The party's here on the West side
So I reach for my 40 and I turn it up
Designated driver take the keys to my truck
Hit the shore 'cause I'm faded
Honeys in the street say, &quot;Monty, yo we made it!&quot;
It feels so good in my hood tonight
The summertime skirts and the guys in Kani
All the gang bangers forgot about the drive-by
You gotta get your groove on, before you go get paid
So tip up your cup and throw your hands up
And let me hear the party say

I'm kinda buzzed and it's all because [This is how we do it]
South Central does it like nobody does [This is how we do it]
To all my neighbours you got much flava [This is how we do it]
Let's flip the track, bring the old school back [This is how we do it]

This is how we do it, all hands are in the air
And wave them from here to there
If you're an O.G. mack or a wanna-be playa
You see the hood's been good to me
Ever since I was a lower-case G
But now I'm a big G, the girls see I got the money
Hundred dollar bills y'all

If you were from where I'm from then you would know
That I gotta get mine in a big black truck
You can get yours in a '64
Whatever it is, the party's underway
So tip up your cup and throw your hands up
And let me hear the party say

I'm kinda buzzed, it's all because [This is how we do it]
Ooh South Central does it like nobody does [This is how we do it]
To all my neighbours you got much flava [This is how we do it]
Let's flip the track, bring the old school back [This is how we do it]
I'm kinda buzzed, it's all because [This is how we do it]
South Central does it like nobody does, nobody does [This is how we do it]
YNV, SCC, [This is how we do it] all my homies
I'll never come wack on an old school track [This is how we do it]
Check it out!

Once upon a time in '94
Montell made no money and life sure was slow
All they said was 6'8&quot; he stood
And people thought the music that he made was good
There lived a D.J. and Paul was his name
He came up to Monty, this is what he said
You and OG are gonna make some cash
Sell a million records and we'll make in a dash

Oh I'm buzzing because [This is how we do it]
South Central does it like nobody does [This is how we do it]
To all my neighbours you got much flava [This is how we do it]
I'll never come wack on an old school track [This is how we do it]
I'm kinda buzzed, it's all because [This is how we do it]
South Central does it like nobody does, nobody does [This is how we do it]
Oh it's party time [This is how we do it]
Straight up comin' from the West side [This is how we do it]
OG's got the flava, yeah [This is how we do it]
And Monty doesn't like nobody, doesn't [This is how we do it]
Come on now, Def Jam, you know what it [This is how we do it]
This is how we do it [This is how we do it] baby
(fade)

 

[GTaudiophile]

Well, I will be building a new box this Winter, and I won't go the way of AMD if I can't get a mobo with an AMD chipset. A P4/Intel chipset combo may not be as fast as an Athlon/VIA chipset, but I certainly think the former is more reliable. I refuse to buy a P4 with RDRAM, but I will consider it a viable solution with DDR RAM.

 

[dowxp]

while i think amd is great, they should spend more on marketing.. this world is capitalistic and people need to know.. intel's blue man group, while may not be the most creative, does the job of spreading awareness of the pentium4. as for athlon, u go ask a guy on the street, &quot;whats a thunderbird&quot;. and they will probably say, ford.