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CollectiveUnconscious

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Stephen Meyer is a moron, and that article was retracted because it did not meet scientific standards, nor was it peer reviewed. Here is a review of Meyer's article.
 
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Intelligent Design is not science. By definition science is trying to explain the world through natural laws, absent of religion or supernatural forces.
 
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3NF

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Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
Stephen Meyer is a moron, and that article was retracted because it did not meet scientific standards, nor was it peer reviewed. Here is a review of Meyer's article.
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Thanks, I'll have to check that out.
 
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Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Intelligent Design is not science. By definition science is trying to explain the world through natural laws, absent of religion or supernatural forces.
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Science tries, but it changes its mind every month.
 
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I should become a Christian and make an alternative to the Theory of Gravity. After all, how could such a strong force exist if not by design? Surely the power of gravity must have been intelligently designed, or else, we'd all be floating freely among the stars.

I've long had my own doubts about Newton and his apple. Strange coincidence that Eve was led down the path of corruption to an apple, is it not? I submit that gravity is in fact the tool of Satan and we should not submit to it's rule!
 
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CollectiveUnconscious

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Intelligent Design is not science. By definition science is trying to explain the world through natural laws, absent of religion or supernatural forces.
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Science tries, but it changes its mind every month.
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Many views have not changed, but some have because new evidence has been found; not because some guy proclaims a magic fairy told him everything is the way it is because of an all-powerful spider monkey.
 
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Originally posted by: Mucho
What is the difference between Intelligent Design and Creationism ?
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I could very well be wrong but I think Creationism believes God created teh animals as they are without the influence of macroevolution. ID on the other hand believe teh vecry first life form was created but then evolution took over
 
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Originally posted by: Mucho
What is the difference between Intelligent Design and Creationism ?
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creationism in its narrowest sense says that all life appeared on earth in its present condition about 6000 years ago when god made the world.

intelligent design accepts that the world is billions of years old and that change has happened over time, but says that change has been guided by a supernatural force.
 
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reverend boltron

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Originally posted by: rivan
I should become a Christian and make an alternative to the Theory of Gravity. After all, how could such a strong force exist if not by design? Surely the power of gravity must have been intelligently designed, or else, we'd all be floating freely among the stars.

I've long had my own doubts about Newton and his apple. Strange coincidence that Eve was led down the path of corruption to an apple, is it not? I submit that gravity is in fact the tool of Satan and we should not submit to it's rule!
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I submit that you are, in fact, wrong, gravity is not the tool of the devil. Apples are! :judging look;
 
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Codewiz

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Mucho
What is the difference between Intelligent Design and Creationism ?
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creationism in its narrowest sense says that all life appeared on earth in its present condition about 6000 years ago when god made the world.

intelligent design accepts that the world is billions of years old and that change has happened over time, but says that change has been guided by a supernatural force.
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Which means the Bible is God's word but Genesis isn't exactly right. But oh wait, the Bible is infallible. How did this happen. OMG. MIND GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by: Mucho
What is the difference between Intelligent Design and Creationism ?
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There is none. Intelligent design is a more palatable term for creation, a euphamism designed to salvage religion's eroding credibility.
 
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Originally posted by: chrisms
Evolution is fact, every piece of evidence proves it is correct.
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The evidence doesn't PROVE anything, it just suggests to teh fact very strongly. Unfortunately this gives room for fundamentalists to argue
 
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George P Burdell

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Originally posted by: rivan
I should become a Christian and make an alternative to the Theory of Gravity. After all, how could such a strong force exist if not by design? Surely the power of gravity must have been intelligently designed, or else, we'd all be floating freely among the stars.

I've long had my own doubts about Newton and his apple. Strange coincidence that Eve was led down the path of corruption to an apple, is it not? I submit that gravity is in fact the tool of Satan and we should not submit to it's rule!
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Intelligent Falling
 
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Trell

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Originally posted by: rivan
I should become a Christian and make an alternative to the Theory of Gravity. After all, how could such a strong force exist if not by design? Surely the power of gravity must have been intelligently designed, or else, we'd all be floating freely among the stars.

I've long had my own doubts about Newton and his apple. Strange coincidence that Eve was led down the path of corruption to an apple, is it not? I submit that gravity is in fact the tool of Satan and we should not submit to it's rule!
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The Theory of Intelligent Falling is already being pushed by the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
 
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chrisms

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: chrisms
Evolution is fact, every piece of evidence proves it is correct.
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The evidence doesn't PROVE anything, it just suggests to teh fact very strongly. Unfortunately this gives room for fundamentalists to argue
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It proves it as much as anything could aside from having a time lapse camera follow the movements of every creature during the entire history of the earth.
 
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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: Mucho
What is the difference between Intelligent Design and Creationism ?
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There is none. Intelligent design is a more palatable term for creation, a euphamism designed to salvage religion's eroding credibility.
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He pretty much nailed it right on the head. There is nothing "intelligent" about Intelligent Design. It's pretty much a marketing name for Creationism.
 
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3NF

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I just find it hard to believe that some of the strange creatures, or beautiful ones, we see happened by evolution. For example, like an anteater. Why would evolution make an anteater. I think it was designed by aliens, after they finished smoking some of the marijuana plant they just got done designing :)
 
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