Intelligence

[cirthix]

Why do intelligent people tend to be socially inept?

 

[Orsorum]

Why do stupid people insult intelligent people?

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

because stupid people don't understand what they are saying

 

[Nebor]

Why do hot dogs come in packages of 8, but hot dog buns come in packages of 10?

 

[Mill]

There are some people who are intelligent and socially inept, but then there are some whose intelligence doesn't hurt them in a social manner.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: cirthix
Why do intelligent people tend to be socially inept?

Here's an explanation why....

The reason why people are socially inept is because they do not practice their social interaction skills as much as other folks.

Intelligent people tend to pursue activities which helps them expand their knowledge, such as reading and such.

If your constantly reading or doing research, sharpening your intellectual skills, then you have less time to practice your social interaction skills.

However, do note that some folks try to sharpen as many skills as they can to become as well rounded as possible.

It's all a matter of which skills you work on!

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Mill
There are some people who are intelligent and socially inept, but then there are some whose intelligence doesn't hurt them in a social manner.

I've found that those people generally are less intelligent, and that they're just better at showing it off than their more introverted counterparts. I'm sure there are people who are social butterflies, and it doesn't hurt their intelligence, but I'd bet they're insanely rare. And even then, I bet they'd be more intelligent if they spent more time with ideas and less time with people.

But intelligence is kind of a nebulous concept. People with high IQs can still be pretty damn stupid.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: cirthix
Why do intelligent people tend to be socially inept?

Here's an explanation why....

The reason why people are socially inept is because they do not practice their social interaction skills as much as other folks.

Intelligent people tend to pursue activities which helps them expand their knowledge, such as reading and such.

If your constantly reading or doing research, sharpening your intellectual skills, then you have less time to practice your social interaction skills.

However, do note that some folks try to sharpen as many skills as they can to become as well rounded as possible.

It's all a matter of which skills you work on!

I don't think so. I think people, at a young age, develop a certain personality. (genetic and many other factors also play a role of course) This is what determines what the person will be like. Whether they'll be boisterous or subdued. Whether they'll be practical and realistic or whether they'll be lofty and dreamy.

An introvert forcing constant socialization won't become an extrovert; they'll simply be burnt out. Maybe they'd develop mental issues. I dunno. But they're introverted because that's how their mind is wired -- not because they're "used to it" or something like that.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Mill
There are some people who are intelligent and socially inept, but then there are some whose intelligence doesn't hurt them in a social manner.

I've found that those people generally are less intelligent, and that they're just better at showing it off than their more introverted counterparts. I'm sure there are people who are social butterflies, and it doesn't hurt their intelligence, but I'd bet they're insanely rare. And even then, I bet they'd be more intelligent if they spent more time with ideas and less time with people.

But intelligence is kind of a nebulous concept. People with high IQs can still be pretty damn stupid.

Well, since this is an opinion that's simply what it is worth. I completely disagree that you have to be a bumbling stumbing anti-social freakshow to be intelligent. Just because there are plenty of anti-social people who are intelligent doesn't mean they are exclusive to each other. In fact, I'd hazard to say that intelligence is completely without worth unless you can actually use it and/or benefit, which is something a lot of people struggle with. Are you really intelligent if you can't get along with society?

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: cirthix
Why do intelligent people tend to be socially inept?

Here's an explanation why....

The reason why people are socially inept is because they do not practice their social interaction skills as much as other folks.

Intelligent people tend to pursue activities which helps them expand their knowledge, such as reading and such.

If your constantly reading or doing research, sharpening your intellectual skills, then you have less time to practice your social interaction skills.

However, do note that some folks try to sharpen as many skills as they can to become as well rounded as possible.

It's all a matter of which skills you work on!

I don't think so. I think people, at a young age, develop a certain personality. (genetic and many other factors also play a role of course) This is what determines what the person will be like. Whether they'll be boisterous or subdued. Whether they'll be practical and realistic or whether they'll be lofty and dreamy.

An introvert forcing constant socialization won't become an extrovert; they'll simply be burnt out. Maybe they'd develop mental issues. I dunno. But they're introverted because that's how their mind is wired -- not because they're "used to it" or something like that.

I would of agreed with you, if I hadn't been in the situation myself. I used to be a huge introvert but some friends I made really helped me develop social skills. Now, even if I need time for myself (everyone needs that), I get really lonely if I'm not around folks for a while.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Mill
Well, since this is an opinion that's simply what it is worth. I completely disagree that you have to be a bumbling stumbing anti-social freakshow to be intelligent. Just because there are plenty of anti-social people who are intelligent doesn't mean they are exclusive to each other.

I'd agree with that as well. It's not quite what I meant. I just think that being a people person gives you a disadvantage, intelligence-wise.

In fact, I'd hazard to say that intelligence is completely without worth unless you can actually use it and/or benefit, which is something a lot of people struggle with. Are you really intelligent if you can't get along with society?

Did Einstein "use" his ideas? What does that mean? And benefit in what way? Happiness is a benefit, and for some people, just playing around with ideas makes them happy. Just like playing basketball makes Joe Schmoe happy. And wasn't Einstein a notoriously difficult person?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Jero
I would of agreed with you, if I hadn't been in the situation myself. I used to be a huge introvert but some friends I made really helped me develop social skills. Now, even if I need time for myself (everyone needs that), I get really lonely if I'm not around folks for a while.

You're still an introvert; you just have better social skills. And introverts surely can get lonely. What I said still applies perfectly to you, IMO.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Why do hot dogs come in packages of 8, but hot dog buns come in packages of 10?

The hotdog buns I bought the other day came in packs of 8.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Jero
I would of agreed with you, if I hadn't been in the situation myself. I used to be a huge introvert but some friends I made really helped me develop social skills. Now, even if I need time for myself (everyone needs that), I get really lonely if I'm not around folks for a while.

You're still an introvert; you just have better social skills. And introverts surely can get lonely. What I said still applies perfectly to you, IMO.

But the way the mind is wired can also be influenced by the environment your in. The way you think changes by the experiences you go through. You grow up.

Okay, here's a question: Define introvert and extrovert?



PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Mill
Well, since this is an opinion that's simply what it is worth. I completely disagree that you have to be a bumbling stumbing anti-social freakshow to be intelligent. Just because there are plenty of anti-social people who are intelligent doesn't mean they are exclusive to each other.

I'd agree with that as well. It's not quite what I meant. I just think that being a people person gives you a disadvantage, intelligence-wise.

In fact, I'd hazard to say that intelligence is completely without worth unless you can actually use it and/or benefit, which is something a lot of people struggle with. Are you really intelligent if you can't get along with society?

Did Einstein "use" his ideas? What does that mean? And benefit in what way? Happiness is a benefit, and for some people, just playing around with ideas makes them happy. Just like playing basketball makes Joe Schmoe happy. And wasn't Einstein a notoriously difficult person?

If you can't apply your intelligence to some tangible result, then are you really that intelligent? Einstein did use his ideas because they were published and accepted by the scientific society. Yes, there are introverts that sit back and publish results, but having a way with people is necessary to having people accept your ideas. I'm not sure what Einstein's personality was like, but obviously he had enough of a personality to be recruited to the US and work with other people who had a similar caliber of intelligence. Could you expound on why you think someone who is social is at a disadvantage? Bill Clinton was a very intelligent man with charisma and very good social skills. I have little doubt that without his social skills he wouldn't have been elected president, or been quite as effective as an individual. There is not doubt that there are some brilliant introverts out there, but I feel your theory is based on the idea that some individuals are so intelligent that they cannot relate to society. Unfortunately I'm sure that there have been numerous extremely intelligent individuals that never accomplished anything due to their brash and/or ineffective personalities.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Did Einstein "use" his ideas?

His ideas were used. Ideas that don't get shared and aren't used are worthless. You could have the coolest idea in your head, but if you do nothing with it what have you accomplished? No matter how cool the idea is, you haven't accomplished diddly.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Jero
PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

Hell yeah. It was a surprisingly good movie, despite the total lack of continuity.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero
PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

Hell yeah. It was a surprisingly good movie, despite the total lack of continuity.

I actually like this movie a LOT better then the original....

This one actually gives a lot more background information

Gives you a better understanding as to what Frank Castle went through before he became the punisher

The one thing which irks me about this movie is that Frank Castle doesn't use a bike like he did in the original. The Punisher ALWAYS has his bike!

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Jero
But the way the mind is wired can also be influenced by the environment your in. The way you think changes by the experiences you go through. You grow up.

Sure, but some things are fundamental. Once you reach a fairly early age, your mind has already developed most of what it's going to be for the rest of your life.

Okay, here's a question: Define introvert and extrovert?

Extroverts are energized by other people, and feel drained by being alone. Introverts are the inverse. You mentioned that you need "alone time" -- IMO an extrovert wouldn't even really mention that. I'm sure most extroverts like some alone time, but to an introvert it's essential.

Originally posted by: Mill
If you can't apply your intelligence to some tangible result, then are you really that intelligent? Einstein did use his ideas because they were published and accepted by the scientific society. Yes, there are introverts that sit back and publish results, but having a way with people is necessary to having people accept your ideas. I'm not sure what Einstein's personality was like, but obviously he had enough of a personality to be recruited to the US and work with other people who had a similar caliber of intelligence.

I agree with you for the most part, but I still would be suprised to find out that Einstein was some sort of social butterfly. He was an introvert, that much is known. I can be extremely good with people one on one, but I'm still what you'd probably call socially inept.

Could you expound on why you think someone who is social is at a disadvantage? Bill Clinton was a very intelligent man with charisma and very good social skills. I have little doubt that without his social skills he wouldn't have been elected president, or been quite as effective as an individual.

Basically what I meant was that on average, introverts are more intelligent. Just statistics. There are surely people who are both very intelligent and socially capable, but not a lot of them. And this still goes back to the confusing issue of what exactly intelligence is, and how it differs from being "smart" or other related qualities.

There is not doubt that there are some brilliant introverts out there, but I feel your theory is based on the idea that some individuals are so intelligent that they cannot relate to society. Unfortunately I'm sure that there have been numerous extremely intelligent individuals that never accomplished anything due to their brash and/or ineffective personalities.

I don't think that being intelligent *makes* you more introverted; I think that the same qualities that lend themselves to intelligence also lend themselves to a personality that is more interested in ideas than people. Or something like that.

 

[Hyperblaze]

I'm sorry, but even an extrovert needs time alone at times....would you not agree?

If your constantly around people, it drains you (This one time (at band camp) I spend 18 hours of my day around varous amount of folks and was exhausted at the end)

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero
PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

Hell yeah. It was a surprisingly good movie, despite the total lack of continuity.

I actually like this movie a LOT better then the original....

This one actually gives a lot more background information

Gives you a better understanding as to what Frank Castle went through before he became the punisher

I don't remember the original.

But I think you're wrong. Totally throwing out the years in vietnam only gives us the family as his reason for becoming the punisher. They tried to show a bit of it in the comic that came with the DVD (I :heart: Garth Ennis), but it doesn't quite have the same "kick me in the nuts" feel that the Vietnam story did in the Born 4 shot (I :heart: Garth Ennis).

The one thing which irks me about this movie is that Frank Castle doesn't use a bike like he did in the original. The Punisher ALWAYS has his bike!

I'm not a big Punisher know-it-all, but in the year or so I've been reading the comics, I don't think I've seen him on a motorcycle. :Q

 

[n0cmonkey]

I've got atleast one friend who is extremely smart in his extroversion. Maybe that doesn't make sense, but it's kind of wierd. And now that I think about it, he might be an introvert after all. :Q

I know all of my personalities are introverted and entirely socially inept. Does that make me smrt?

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero
PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

Hell yeah. It was a surprisingly good movie, despite the total lack of continuity.

I actually like this movie a LOT better then the original....

This one actually gives a lot more background information

Gives you a better understanding as to what Frank Castle went through before he became the punisher

I don't remember the original.

But I think you're wrong. Totally throwing out the years in vietnam only gives us the family as his reason for becoming the punisher. They tried to show a bit of it in the comic that came with the DVD (I :heart: Garth Ennis), but it doesn't quite have the same "kick me in the nuts" feel that the Vietnam story did in the Born 4 shot (I :heart: Garth Ennis).

The one thing which irks me about this movie is that Frank Castle doesn't use a bike like he did in the original. The Punisher ALWAYS has his bike!

I'm not a big Punisher know-it-all, but in the year or so I've been reading the comics, I don't think I've seen him on a motorcycle. :Q

Well, he did have a bike in the original movie...

I admit that I don't generally read 'the punisher' comic books.

In fact, the only one I read was a showdown between him and wolverine. It was a unique comic (lot more pages in it and cost a lot more)

I believe I saw him in a van that time, but I thought since most of the fight was in the jungle, then he couldn't really use his bike.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero
PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

Hell yeah. It was a surprisingly good movie, despite the total lack of continuity.

I actually like this movie a LOT better then the original....

This one actually gives a lot more background information

Gives you a better understanding as to what Frank Castle went through before he became the punisher

I don't remember the original.

But I think you're wrong. Totally throwing out the years in vietnam only gives us the family as his reason for becoming the punisher. They tried to show a bit of it in the comic that came with the DVD (I :heart: Garth Ennis), but it doesn't quite have the same "kick me in the nuts" feel that the Vietnam story did in the Born 4 shot (I :heart: Garth Ennis).

The one thing which irks me about this movie is that Frank Castle doesn't use a bike like he did in the original. The Punisher ALWAYS has his bike!

I'm not a big Punisher know-it-all, but in the year or so I've been reading the comics, I don't think I've seen him on a motorcycle. :Q

Well, he did have a bike in the original movie...

I admit that I don't generally read 'the punisher' comic books.

In fact, the only one I read was a showdown between him and wolverine. It was a unique comic (lot more pages in it and cost a lot more)

I believe I saw him in a van that time, but I thought since most of the fight was in the jungle, then he couldn't really use his bike.

There was a recent crossover between the two. I don't think I have gotten the entire thing though. No bike.

I recommend the comics though. Garth Ennis is one of the best comic book authors out there at the moment, and I think he is doing a great job with the series. I can't think of many authors that could make a ~60yo Punisher believable.

And if you find Born, it's worth the read, and only 4 comics long. It dealt with Frank's time in Vietnam.

Does talking about excessive time spent reading comic books make me introverted and intelligent?

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Jero
PS: After having watched remake of the Punisher, I'll attest that Frank Castle's wife in the movie is HOT

Hell yeah. It was a surprisingly good movie, despite the total lack of continuity.

I actually like this movie a LOT better then the original....

This one actually gives a lot more background information

Gives you a better understanding as to what Frank Castle went through before he became the punisher

I don't remember the original.

But I think you're wrong. Totally throwing out the years in vietnam only gives us the family as his reason for becoming the punisher. They tried to show a bit of it in the comic that came with the DVD (I :heart: Garth Ennis), but it doesn't quite have the same "kick me in the nuts" feel that the Vietnam story did in the Born 4 shot (I :heart: Garth Ennis).

The one thing which irks me about this movie is that Frank Castle doesn't use a bike like he did in the original. The Punisher ALWAYS has his bike!

I'm not a big Punisher know-it-all, but in the year or so I've been reading the comics, I don't think I've seen him on a motorcycle. :Q

Well, he did have a bike in the original movie...

I admit that I don't generally read 'the punisher' comic books.

In fact, the only one I read was a showdown between him and wolverine. It was a unique comic (lot more pages in it and cost a lot more)

I believe I saw him in a van that time, but I thought since most of the fight was in the jungle, then he couldn't really use his bike.

There was a recent crossover between the two. I don't think I have gotten the entire thing though. No bike.

I recommend the comics though. Garth Ennis is one of the best comic book authors out there at the moment, and I think he is doing a great job with the series. I can't think of many authors that could make a ~60yo Punisher believable.

And if you find Born, it's worth the read, and only 4 comics long. It dealt with Frank's time in Vietnam.

Does talking about excessive time spent reading comic books make me introverted and intelligent?

Naa, it just makes you a geek, which is nothing to be ashamed about!

Hey, don't forget Stan Lee, he is one of the best ever =)