Intellectual Property issue on facebook last night

alien42 · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
There was once a time when people did not touch stuff that did not belong to them.

so when exactly was "this time" when borrowing and theft didn't exist?

Ichinisan · Jul 18, 2012

highland145 said:
Post in public, expect the public to use it.

This.

Fausto · Jul 18, 2012

lxskllr said:
Really? I find it tedious. The argument hasn't even changed. It's exactly the same as page one. I get more enjoyment talking to my cat. At least there's understanding going on there...

I just find his vast intellectual disconnects to be completely fascinating.

For starters, facebook exists for the purpose of sharing stuff. If there's something you DON'T want to share, you can set specific permissions for that thing or group of things. I don't really want my extended fam seeing my day to day bullshit, so I block most of them out of my wall posts.

Meanwhile, Tex is not only ON facebook in the first place (which, in my opinion, goes totally against his whole "my life is a fortress" philosophy), but he's apparently too stupid to figure out how to set specific permissions and then starts yabbering about INTERLECTUAL PROPPITY as if he remotely understands anything about it. 99.999% of the time, the world for him does not extend beyond the chicken coop at the edge of his trailer compound and now he's suddenly Texashiker: Attorney At Law.

I'm sorry, but this is hilarious to me.

Texashiker · Jul 18, 2012

jagec said:
When you post an image on Facebook (publicly), you explicitly grant other people the right to reuse that image.

Negative.

If you do not have rights to the property, you should not be posting it.

Here is an example article from Pinterest .

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_you_could_get_sued_for_using_pinterest.php

Fausto said:
Meanwhile, Tex is not only ON facebook in the first place (which, in my opinion, goes totally against his whole "my life is a fortress" philosophy), but he's apparently too stupid to figure out how to set specific permissions and then starts yabbering about INTERLECTUAL PROPPITY as if he remotely understands anything about it. 99.999% of the time, the world for him does not extend beyond the chicken coop at the edge of his trailer compound and now he's suddenly Texashiker: Attorney At Law.

I'm sorry, but this is hilarious to me.

I do not claim to be an attorney, but I do claim to own the content I create.

soulcougher73 · Jul 18, 2012

Texas. I generally like hearing what you have to say because i think you honestly have a good heart and good intentions in life. In that way i think you are i are much alike. But you are having a huge disconnect with the reality of facebook and public sharing etc. Probably best just to let this one be.

iRONic · Jul 18, 2012

Fausto said:
I just find his vast intellectual disconnects to be completely fascinating.

For starters, facebook exists for the purpose of sharing stuff. If there's something you DON'T want to share, you can set specific permissions for that thing or group of things. I don't really want my extended fam seeing my day to day bullshit, so I block most of them out of my wall posts.

Meanwhile, Tex is not only ON facebook in the first place (which, in my opinion, goes totally against his whole "my life is a fortress" philosophy), but he's apparently too stupid to figure out how to set specific permissions and then starts yabbering about INTERLECTUAL PROPPITY as if he remotely understands anything about it. 99.999% of the time, the world for him does not extend beyond the chicken coop at the edge of his trailer compound and now he's suddenly Texashiker: Attorney At Law.

I'm sorry, but this is hilarious to me.

Very well put. The guy has a very myopic perception of most situations.

jagec · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
Since you park your vehicle in a public parking lot, you expect it to be stolen?

Regardless of where your property is at, you still retain ownership.

Since you insist on returning to this analogy, let me fix it for you.

Let's say that a new parking lot opens downtown. They don't charge $10 an hour, they don't charge $5 an hour, the parking lot is FREE to use. However, when you pull in, a smiling attendant hands you a contract that says "By using this free service, you must turn in your car keys while you're parked here, and you give us permission to lend your car out to whoever walks by for as long as they want it. You still retain title to the vehicle, you're not liable if the borrower uses it to break the law, and you can return to the parking lot and pick it back up anytime you want." You sign the contract, turn in your keys, and go catch a movie.

When you come back, you find out that someone has *gasp* used your car while you were gone. It is still in the exact same condition that it was in when you parked it, full tank of gas and everything, but it enrages you that someone else was driving YOUR car without payment!

Do you (A)make a thread on ATOT griping about how people don't respect other peoples' property anymore, or
(B)Realize that you entered into a VOLUNTARY, CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT which allowed other people to gain use of your property?

It's still a flawed analogy because cars can't be copied (and thus the Facebook situation has much less impact on its users), but it's much closer to the contract that you agreed to than your ridiculous analogy.

There are plenty of other "parking lots" that DON'T waive your right to sole control of your vehicle. If you hosted your picture on your OWN website, then you WOULD have a valid copyright claim if someone else started copying it.

Leeches like you just want to take advantage of a free service without having to deal with any of the downsides of that service.

jagec · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
jagec said:

When you post an image on Facebook (publicly), you explicitly grant other people the right to reuse that image.

Click to expand...

Negative.

If you do not have rights to the property, you should not be posting it.

Umm, yeah, obviously. What does that have to do with my sentence? Nothing.

Facebook (and most social media sites), grants its users rights on the content that other users post. Every time you click a "like" button, "share", "repost", "retweet", or any number of other actions, you are explicitly taking advantage of the rights to other peoples' content that you have been granted as part of the TOS.

alkemyst · Jul 18, 2012

alien42 said:
so when exactly was "this time" when borrowing and theft didn't exist?

in a galaxy far, far away?

Anubis · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker, making ducknuts look like a genius since 2010

dainthomas · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
Because people seem to think its ok to steal

I just stole your last post without your express written permission and reposted under my user name. Please don't sue me.

Fausto · Jul 18, 2012

Anubis said:
Texashiker, making ducknuts look like a genius since 2010

I wonder if he has a chicken named "Spunky". :hmm:

iRONic · Jul 18, 2012

dainthomas said:
I just stole your last post without your express written permission and reposted under my user name. Please don't sue me.

Heh heh...

Perknose · Jul 18, 2012

iRONic said:
Very well put. The guy has a very myopic perception of most situations.

Texashiker · Jul 18, 2012

Fausto said:
I wonder if he has a chicken named "Spunky". :hmm:

All of my chickens are named "nugget".

waggy · Jul 18, 2012

i sense a honypot! no way anyone can answer that truthfully without getting banned for "over the top insults"

waggy · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
All of my chickens are named "nugget".

lol thats harsh.

Anubis · Jul 18, 2012

Perknose said:
Agreed. What do you think sixone's excuse is, then?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702802&postcount=39

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702833&postcount=44

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702833&postcount=48

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702871&postcount=55

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702871&postcount=59

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702901&postcount=63

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33702908&postcount=66

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33703050&postcount=86

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33704524&postcount=151

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33704605&postcount=154

shes a woman

Texashiker · Jul 18, 2012

waggy said:
lol thats harsh.

Makes their name easy to remember. 12 more besides these 2.

PlasmaBomb · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
When lady gaga post a pic of facebook, you can take that pic and do anything you want with it? Yea, right, good luck with that.

I will let you know if I hear from her...

iRONic · Jul 18, 2012

Perknose said:
Agreed. What do you think sixone's excuse is, then?

sixone has issues that run much deeper than a basic understanding of the TOS on a social media site.

I charge $350/hr for that level of analysis.

RPD · Jul 18, 2012

jagec said:
Since you insist on returning to this analogy, let me fix it for you.

Let's say that a new parking lot opens downtown. They don't charge $10 an hour, they don't charge $5 an hour, the parking lot is FREE to use. However, when you pull in, a smiling attendant hands you a contract that says "By using this free service, you must turn in your car keys while you're parked here, and you give us permission to lend your car out to whoever walks by for as long as they want it. You still retain title to the vehicle, you're not liable if the borrower uses it to break the law, and you can return to the parking lot and pick it back up anytime you want." You sign the contract, turn in your keys, and go catch a movie.

When you come back, you find out that someone has *gasp* used your car while you were gone. It is still in the exact same condition that it was in when you parked it, full tank of gas and everything, but it enrages you that someone else was driving YOUR car without payment!

Do you (A)make a thread on ATOT griping about how people don't respect other peoples' property anymore, or
(B)Realize that you entered into a VOLUNTARY, CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT which allowed other people to gain use of your property?

It's still a flawed analogy because cars can't be copied (and thus the Facebook situation has much less impact on its users), but it's much closer to the contract that you agreed to than your ridiculous analogy.

There are plenty of other "parking lots" that DON'T waive your right to sole control of your vehicle. If you hosted your picture on your OWN website, then you WOULD have a valid copyright claim if someone else started copying it.

Leeches like you just want to take advantage of a free service without having to deal with any of the downsides of that service.

Don't worry he'll ignore this as it even more painfully points out the flaws in his retarded mind.

PlasmaBomb · Jul 18, 2012

zinfamous said:
I don't work in immunology, brosef.

I currently work with sex chromosome evolution.

so, like, trying to figure out why Y chromosomes are so fucking degenerate, and stuff.

:hmm:

I think I'm going to suggest submitting various examples from these forums in the next paper!

Excellent. Send me the link when you get it published

Fausto · Jul 18, 2012

Texashiker said:
Makes their name easy to remember. 12 more besides these 2.

I don't see a copyright watermark on that image. BRB, updating my chicken blog.

lupi · Jul 18, 2012

Front runner for self ownage of the year thread?

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