Intel Vs AMD CPU, not allowed to compare?

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: theman
your friend sounds like a republican...

I am a republican, you jack-ass!!! what does this have to do with cpu hardware and knowing what one is talking about???

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
It matters in what apps your friend is talking about.
'
In each test each CPU will beat the other handily.

Game, AMD

Encoding INTEL

Fatty you need to be removed...

I will give you one chance...

Go find some links right now to prove that Intel owns encoding....If you cant I will start to have a FUD talking (appears to be a troll) person such as yourself removed from the boards...

I mean it isn't even remoely true yet you have been allowed to make this same false comment for months....That is about to end....PPL come in here to read and learn and I am not about to have you spread misinformation...

 

[LTC8K6]

I am a republican jack-ass

Don't be so hard on yourself.

You're not any sort of a jack-ass. :beer:

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6

I am a republican jack-ass

Don't be so hard on yourself.

You're not any sort of a jack-ass. :beer:

Hahaha thanks...I fixed it...Political comments can stay with the half-wits in P&N...

 

[Maximilian]

Long live teh confederacy!

 

[Shenkoa]

LOL!!!! OMFG!!!!!! YOUR FRIEND IS STUPID!!!!

 

[cscuster]

Originally posted by: theman
your friend sounds like a republican...

OK, I can handle the Intel insults even though I am a fan . . . .

but putting Republicans in the vane with INTEL?

Who is the idiot now?!!!!

 

[theMan]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: theman
your friend sounds like a republican...

I am a republican, you jack-ass!!! what does this have to do with cpu hardware and knowing what one is talking about???

sorry duvie, it was just a joke, lighten up! didnt mean to turn this into P&N .

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: PKing1977

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

I was writing a program when I saw your post, so I decided to help you , and provide you with the source code ( being an open source supporter myslef), and provide you with a program that I am using to determine how intellegint my friends are :


public class FriendCheckTest {
private String FriendSays; // What your friend says.

/**
* @return Returns the friendSays.
*/
public String getFriendSays() {
return FriendSays;
}
/**
* @param friendSays The friendSays to set.
*/
public void setFriendSays(String friendSays) {
FriendSays = FriendSays;
}
public void DumbFriend () { // All you need to know
if (FriendSays == "PD EE is literally unbeatable by anything AMD offers") {
{
System.out.println(" The Linuxator : ");
System.out.println("/thread.");
System.out.println (" /agree = agree + 1");


} if (FriendSays =="Intel Rules") {

System.out.println("MY MY KICK HIM IN THE BALLS");
}

} else System.out.println("MY MY that's a very good friend you have there, stay in touch with him");


}

/**
* @param args
*/
public static void main(String[] args) {
// TODO Auto-generated method stub
FriendCheckTest SillyFriend;

SillyFriend = new FriendCheckTest();

System.out.println("What did your friend say ?");

SillyFriend.FriendSays = SimpleInput.inputString();

SillyFriend.DumbFriend(); // Calls the test.

}

}

lol nice, is that java or C++?

 

[RichUK]

its C++

 

[Banzai042]

Actually that would be Java, java uses system.out.println(), C++ uses cout<<. Oh, and just out of curiosity could some people post links to benches so that he can see just how bad AMD beats out Intel. Oh yea, i also forgot one other thing he said, when i told him that the P4 archetecture is old he responded with: "Actually the p4 is newer than the athalon 64, sure it's been around for longer, but every time they release a new core it's new technology, but AMD hasn't updated the A64 since it came out."
Edit: He also maintains that Intel 64 bit is Better than AMD 64 bit for some reason which he didn't justify to me.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
It matters in what apps your friend is talking about.
'
In each test each CPU will beat the other handily.

Game, AMD

Encoding INTEL

Fatty you need to be removed...

I will give you one chance...

Go find some links right now to prove that Intel owns encoding....If you cant I will start to have a FUD talking (appears to be a troll) person such as yourself removed from the boards...

I mean it isn't even remoely true yet you have been allowed to make this same false comment for months....That is about to end....PPL come in here to read and learn and I am not about to have you spread misinformation...

Single Core Vs Single Core, this is very true. AMD does beat Intel in dual core versions though.

 

[Markbnj]

[Actually it is based in CA...Oregon is just its R&D base....We have little manfactruing capacity here compared to Rio rancho, NM and Chandler, AZ]

Oh well, on such details does a crappy joke die a well-deserved death.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
It matters in what apps your friend is talking about.
'
In each test each CPU will beat the other handily.

Game, AMD

Encoding INTEL

Fatty you need to be removed...

I will give you one chance...

Go find some links right now to prove that Intel owns encoding....If you cant I will start to have a FUD talking (appears to be a troll) person such as yourself removed from the boards...

I mean it isn't even remoely true yet you have been allowed to make this same false comment for months....That is about to end....PPL come in here to read and learn and I am not about to have you spread misinformation...

Single Core Vs Single Core, this is very true. AMD does beat Intel in dual core versions though.

Well, that depends, you know. Northwood > Winchester, especially when the NW has HyperThreading. But, sadly, Prescott (2M) < Venice, San Diego. When the Prescott has the HT on, though, it's fairly even.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Banzai042
Actually that would be Java, java uses system.out.println(), C++ uses cout<<. Oh, and just out of curiosity could some people post links to benches so that he can see just how bad AMD beats out Intel. Oh yea, i also forgot one other thing he said, when i told him that the P4 archetecture is old he responded with: "Actually the p4 is newer than the athalon 64, sure it's been around for longer, but every time they release a new core it's new technology, but AMD hasn't updated the A64 since it came out."
Edit: He also maintains that Intel 64 bit is Better than AMD 64 bit for some reason which he didn't justify to me.

I don't like to waste a lot of time on proving an idiot wrong. Ask him to pony up come money for a bet, and give me part of it, then I will spend the time.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
It matters in what apps your friend is talking about.
'
In each test each CPU will beat the other handily.

Game, AMD

Encoding INTEL

Fatty you need to be removed...

I will give you one chance...

Go find some links right now to prove that Intel owns encoding....If you cant I will start to have a FUD talking (appears to be a troll) person such as yourself removed from the boards...

I mean it isn't even remoely true yet you have been allowed to make this same false comment for months....That is about to end....PPL come in here to read and learn and I am not about to have you spread misinformation...

Single Core Vs Single Core, this is very true. AMD does beat Intel in dual core versions though.

Do not support him!!! He is answering to the topic by the OP that says that INtels P4 and P-D offerings or beating AMD cpus...He makes no mention of singl core and either does fatty...Fatty is a liar and manipulates and spin this anyway to troll...PPl who have seen him in threads just within the last few weeks know he made ths exact remark in a dual core thread...trust me this fool actually believes this is true in all cases...

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
[Actually it is based in CA...Oregon is just its R&D base....We have little manfactruing capacity here compared to Rio rancho, NM and Chandler, AZ]

Oh well, on such details does a crappy joke die a well-deserved death.

NOpe...still good joke...just edit it to CA....

 

[Canterwood]

Originally posted by: Banzai042
Ok, recently one of my friends began telling me that Pentium 4 and Pentium D procs are slaughtering AMD procs, and even said that the PD EE is literally unbeatable by anything AMD offers. When i reminded him that even the 3800+ X2 beats the high end PD in most cases, and that for raw performance the FX-57 reigns supreme, and that some people have tested and proven that it takes a p4 OCd to 5 GHz to match/beat an FX57 he told me that it's an irellivent comparison. Why? Because apparently comparing a 32 bit P4 to a 64 bit AMD isn't fair, and produces skewed results, and not only that, but the P4 is actually superioir because it is a native 32 bit proc with "better" 64 bit support from AMD. WTF is up with this, is Intel trying to spread a new brand of skewed marketing or something?

With friends like him, who needs enemies? :roll:

 

[fatty4ksu]

Yup, meant single-single core.

 

[fatty4ksu]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
It matters in what apps your friend is talking about.
'
In each test each CPU will beat the other handily.

Game, AMD

Encoding INTEL

Fatty you need to be removed...

I will give you one chance...

Go find some links right now to prove that Intel owns encoding....If you cant I will start to have a FUD talking (appears to be a troll) person such as yourself removed from the boards...

I mean it isn't even remoely true yet you have been allowed to make this same false comment for months....That is about to end....PPL come in here to read and learn and I am not about to have you spread misinformation...

Single Core Vs Single Core, this is very true. AMD does beat Intel in dual core versions though.

Well, that depends, you know. Northwood > Winchester, especially when the NW has HyperThreading. But, sadly, Prescott (2M) < Venice, San Diego. When the Prescott has the HT on, though, it's fairly even.

Nope, not very even at all in single core. The p4 beat the 64's easily in encoding of any kind.

 

[AkumaX]

Pentium 4 and Pentium D procs are slaughtering AMD procs, and even said that the PD EE is literally unbeatable by anything AMD offer

hahaha..

HAHHAHA...

BWHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
It matters in what apps your friend is talking about.
'
In each test each CPU will beat the other handily.

Game, AMD

Encoding INTEL

fatty, every single site on the internet shows the X2 kills the 8xx series intel.

Mods, time for ban !! We are sick of this crap !!!!

Fatty you need to be removed...

I will give you one chance...

Go find some links right now to prove that Intel owns encoding....If you cant I will start to have a FUD talking (appears to be a troll) person such as yourself removed from the boards...

I mean it isn't even remoely true yet you have been allowed to make this same false comment for months....That is about to end....PPL come in here to read and learn and I am not about to have you spread misinformation...

Single Core Vs Single Core, this is very true. AMD does beat Intel in dual core versions though.

Well, that depends, you know. Northwood > Winchester, especially when the NW has HyperThreading. But, sadly, Prescott (2M) < Venice, San Diego. When the Prescott has the HT on, though, it's fairly even.

Nope, not very even at all in single core. The p4 beat the 64's easily in encoding of any kind.

fatty, every single site on the internet says the X2 kills intel across the board, and the single cores are getting close to tied, depending on which benchmark is run.

Time for a ban ????

 

[Duvie]

So what are you comparing when you say that since they dont run at same speed??? price???

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2484&p=9

Here is a 240 dollar chip versus a 210 dollar chip and the 3800+ single core with 1.5mb less of l2 cache beats it.....

Are you comparing speed vs PR rating??

cause if that is the case that same 240 dollar chips loses but you can buy 2.6 of them for the same price....

How about flagship vs flagship???

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2456&p=4

Looks like 2 out of 3 there

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2456&p=5

Dont see it there either...

http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/athlon64-x2-3800/index.x?pg=8
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q3/athlon64-x2-3800/index.x?pg=9

win one/ lose one kinda thing....


will get plenty more....

 

[Duvie]

NOw truth is P4 single cores are slightly better and I would chose one over an A64 if those were my choices....HOwvere it is nowhere near the butt kickin it used to be and in many cases the app you use could be the difference...

Dual cores are NO CONTEST!!!

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
Yup, meant single-single core.

Next time make things more clear.

Also, imo, P4s compare quite well with single core A64s, but they heat up too much. If it weren't for the heat, the average user would benefit more from a P4 because of its ability to handle multimedia tasks better.

A64 is still the way to go for gamers . ANd the FX-57 is no slouch in multimedia intensive tasks either .

Btw, I tend to trust Xbitlabs in their reviews of CPus and Video cards more than AT. I find AT always has alot of errors and inconsistancies.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-fx57.html

Heres a benchmark comparing both dual core and single core flagships of both companies.