Intel unveils new family of AI chips to take on Nvidia’s GPUs - Previously known as Lakes Crest

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  1. Nothingness

    Nothingness Golden Member

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    By killing I meant failing at making it a success. Intel has destroyed many companies it has bought in the past. I know many Infineon/Intel ex-employees across Europe and what they have to say about Intel isn't pretty.

    Of course that doesn't imply they will fail with Nervana. It's just a hint of the issues they have with their culture.
     
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    Intel unveils new family of AI chips to cancel development of.
     
  3. senseamp

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    Intel went from "Let's try IA* for everything" to "Let's try everything for AI".


    *Intel Architecture (x86), which Intel tried to stick into GPU's, phones, etc.
     
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  4. Dayman1225

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    I'm glad they removed the IA and X86 part and realised that won't do.
     
  5. FwFred

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    Yeah I remember, people confused memory cell performance with SSD performance on CPU or interface bounded workloads.
     
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  6. IntelUser2000

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    Let's see that again.

    TI's cable modem division: Used to use ARM cores, now use Atom-based cores

    ME engine for the Lewisburg chipset on the Purley Xeon platform: x86 Quark cores

    Nervana IP: Lake Crest, moving to Knights Crest. The latter is described as a Bootable Intel Xeon CPU. Sounds like Xeon Phi, but instead of general purpose AVX-512, it adds NN specific accelerators

    Altera FPGA: Later versions of Xeon Scalable "Purley" will come with FPGA's on package

    I wouldn't be surprised if the FPGA portion moves to Atom cores. The thing is, it takes time to port to your own technology. There was an article that said Intel happens to be the largest licensee by volume for ARM cores. That's because every Ethernet product from Intel uses tiny ARM cores, and DSP needed by their chipsets likely use tiny ARM cores too. The leaks for 300-series CNL PCH say it'll use "Quad Core Audio DSP". The generic naming suggests a tiny ARM core. Their SSD controllers probably use an ARM core.

    If the compute requirements rise, its likely they'll move to their own IP.
     
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  7. Dayman1225

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    TSMC 28nm as it was being developed on it before Intel acquired them.
     
  8. Dayman1225

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  9. witeken

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    Interposers indeed tend to be quite big.

    For sure they will use EMIB in the future.
     
  10. Bondrewd

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    Lame.
    No, the die itself is big.
     
  11. Dayman1225

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    Best guess is that the next update will skip 14nm and go straight to 10nm.
     
  12. Bondrewd

    Bondrewd Senior member

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    Big die and Intel's 10nm?
    Can't wait for launch somewhere H2 2019 when even AMD will be running circles around it.
     
  13. Dayman1225

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    No idea when that update is coming though, I imagine sometime in H2 2019 - Early 2020.
     
  14. Bondrewd

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    I mean, the jump from 28HKMG to whatever Intel calls it's 10nm node will be huge, but this will be one hell of a long journey.
    Well unless current 28nm product surprises everyone with it's outstanding performance (sometimes that happens).
     
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    The current 28nm product isn't meant to sell, it's meant basically as a software development/ecosystem building tool as well as proof-of-concept.

    Nobody is going to adopt these chips in serious volumes for another few generations, and that's assuming that the products live up to all they're cracked up to be.
     
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  16. NTMBK

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    Ah yes, the same strategy that went so well for Xeon Phi.
     
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    Lake Crest : Intel AI Effort:: Knights Ferry : Intel HPC Accelerator effort.
     
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  18. Dayman1225

    Dayman1225 Senior member

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    #46 Dayman1225, Dec 6, 2017
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  19. RichUK

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    To take on nVidia GPUs? Lol!
     
  20. Dayman1225

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    Title of the first article i came across :)
     
  21. DrMrLordX

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    Wait.

    NIPS?

    I'm sure there's some totally innocuous reason for naming the conference NIPS, but cmon man, someone had to notice . . .
     
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