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Intel to discontinue the cheap i7's 920 & 940

aigomorla

aigomorla

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So those of you that was gonna wait for an i5 b4 you got an i7.

You might no longer have that opportunity.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/h...core-i7-920-940-cpus/1

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Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

Intel is planning to discontinue a number of Core i7 CPUs almost as soon as it lifts the curtain on Lynnfield on September 1st.
COMPUTEX 2009: According to sources at Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers, Intel is planning to discontinue a number of its Core i7 processors almost as soon as it pulls the covers off its new Lynnfield CPUs on 1st September.

The models include, but are not limited to, the Core i7 920 and Core i7 940, while one source suggested that the as-yet-unreleased Core i7 950 would also probably get the chop a bit later.

Apparently, Lynnfield's performance is so close to the cheaper i7 CPUs that Intel is looking to move the focus of its LGA 1366 socket to just the high-end, workstation and SMP boards using the X58 chipset. It all sounds remarkably similar to what AMD did with the early Athlon 64 FX processors, which used Socket 940 while all other Athlon 64s used Socket 754.

In light of this, motherboard manufacturers have said that they're already working to adjust their X58 product lines to cater for the price range and market future LGA 1366 processors will target."


Looks like intel is trying to force butt rape us.
 
So happy I waited to upgrade from 775. Sounds like whenever core i7 adopters get ready for new mobo or chip they'll be screwed. I would be pretty pissed if I had forked over all that cash for a core i7. I don't even know why most of you did?
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
So those of you that was gonna wait for an i5 b4 you got an i7.

You might no longer have that opportunity.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/h...core-i7-920-940-cpus/1

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Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

Intel is planning to discontinue a number of Core i7 CPUs almost as soon as it lifts the curtain on Lynnfield on September 1st.
COMPUTEX 2009: According to sources at Taiwanese motherboard manufacturers, Intel is planning to discontinue a number of its Core i7 processors almost as soon as it pulls the covers off its new Lynnfield CPUs on 1st September.

The models include, but are not limited to, the Core i7 920 and Core i7 940, while one source suggested that the as-yet-unreleased Core i7 950 would also probably get the chop a bit later.

Apparently, Lynnfield's performance is so close to the cheaper i7 CPUs that Intel is looking to move the focus of its LGA 1366 socket to just the high-end, workstation and SMP boards using the X58 chipset. It all sounds remarkably similar to what AMD did with the early Athlon 64 FX processors, which used Socket 940 while all other Athlon 64s used Socket 754.

In light of this, motherboard manufacturers have said that they're already working to adjust their X58 product lines to cater for the price range and market future LGA 1366 processors will target."


Looks like intel is trying to force butt rape us.
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Somebody has to pay EU fine and AMD lawsuite. Guess who .

 
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
So happy I waited to upgrade from 775. Sounds like whenever core i7 adopters get ready for new mobo or chip they'll be screwed. I would be pretty pissed if I had forked over all that cash for a core i7. I don't even know why most of you did?
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are you kidding? bloomfield offers unbeatable performance per watt. thats why people did and will continue to buy i7. I would love to have X58 out of the way by now also. Preliminary lynnfield performance that was posted here did not look good compared to bloomfield. The bloomfield platform isn't being discontinued, they will just stop offering 1366 CPUs at mainstream prices once i5 is available, which means cutting the slow models. And that's fine, most i5 users will have no idea and won't care. and I have no problem buying a used i7 as long as it's a D0.

this news does not negate the fact that hexcore 1366 processors will be available on the 32nm process next year. early adopters made an investment in X58, and if anything, that investment is growing. It is not devalued by this price adjustment in any way. It is still the performance king and intel is going to make it even more exclusive.
 
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1


Somebody has to pay EU fine and AMD lawsuite. Guess who .
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yeah i was thinking that too.

nice way for intel to raise there prices to pay off law suit.

Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
So happy I waited to upgrade from 775. Sounds like whenever core i7 adopters get ready for new mobo or chip they'll be screwed. I would be pretty pissed if I had forked over all that cash for a core i7. I don't even know why most of you did?
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i think id be more pissed when it came around for me to get an i7 machine and realized it costs 300-400 dollars more then it would of a few months ago.

Originally posted by: alyarb


this news does not negate the fact that hexcore 1366 processors will be available on the 32nm process next year.
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I will most likely get one b4 anandtech does like my 975. 😛
 
alyarb Wow what an exclusive club. How do I join? Oh I know. Pay top dollar on a processor, mobo, triple channel memory and for what? Faster video encoding times and being able to run 3 gtx295's(which I refuse to pay for as well). Your right core i7 is performance king in cpu. I recently got a ssd and found out that by far the hard drive was the biggest bottleneck in my system. I am willing to wait a few more seconds on the most demanding applications. 99.8% of the time for what I really use my computer for I will see no difference from your core i7 and my qxxx. By the way i5 will offer almost identical performance so much so that i7 pretty much got dropped.

:wine: Heres to my next i5 rig.
 
Originally posted by: alyarb
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
So happy I waited to upgrade from 775. Sounds like whenever core i7 adopters get ready for new mobo or chip they'll be screwed. I would be pretty pissed if I had forked over all that cash for a core i7. I don't even know why most of you did?
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are you kidding? bloomfield offers unbeatable performance per watt. thats why people did and will continue to buy i7. I would love to have X58 out of the way by now also. Preliminary lynnfield performance that was posted here did not look good compared to bloomfield. The bloomfield platform isn't being discontinued, they will just stop offering 1366 CPUs at mainstream prices once i5 is available, which means cutting the slow models. And that's fine, most i5 users will have no idea and won't care. and I have no problem buying a used i7 as long as it's a D0.

this news does not negate the fact that hexcore 1366 processors will be available on the 32nm process next year. early adopters made an investment in X58, and if anything, that investment is growing. It is not devalued by this price adjustment in any way. It is still the performance king and intel is going to make it even more exclusive.
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Well thats what intel seems to want us to believe. But I see something more here . A new priceing structure coming into place. I think this is going to be wild. Its really going to piss us guys off.

But JOE BLOW will love it.

I7 as highend as intended . followed by 4 core intel clocked at just right speed to price with AMD 4 core.

The part that ass kicking for public. IS 32nm 2 core that is wicked fast. Priced well below AMD 4 cores . Its a death blow to EU case. Intel can and will price 2core nehalem as a 2 core part. I was hoping intel wouldn't force the issue . But they are . We us guys have to pay for all this BS.

I don't know when or even why but intels has single core Nehalem as I recall, do sometime . I gues all holes are being plugged. This saddens me.

 
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
So happy I waited to upgrade from 775. Sounds like whenever core i7 adopters get ready for new mobo or chip they'll be screwed. I would be pretty pissed if I had forked over all that cash for a core i7. I don't even know why most of you did?
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Early adopters always pay a premium.... What's new?

No reason to upgrade any time soon ..
 
Originally posted by: alyarb
I don't know what you're talking about. Intel has not announced any 32nm dual core parts and all of the 45nm dual cores have been cancelled.

http://www.dailytech.com/Intel...rinks/article14225.htm

I wouldn't worry about Neelie Kroes either until there is a court order that says intel has to pay. Until then, she's the chick holding a slot-1 processor in 2009.

http://www.reuters.com/resourc...P00_RTROPTP_0_EU-INTEL
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Sorry but this is from the link you posted . It contradicts your post.



With 32nm development so advanced, Intel made the decision to pull in Clarkdale and Arrandale from the middle of 2010 to Q4 of 2009. They seem confident that they will be able to ramp in time to meet demand from the critical Christmas season.

Clarkdale is the 32nm successor to Havendale, built using two logic cores and a graphics core using Intel's "Multi-Chip Packaging".
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Looks like intel is trying to force butt rape us.
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Somebody has to pay for 22nm development...it sure ain't going to come from selling 200m atom chips at $30 a pop.
 
As long as i5 is overclockable, I could probably care less.

One question though, is i5 quad-core or dual-core? I'm hoping it's still quad-core/octo-thread.
 
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
As long as i5 is overclockable, I could probably care less.

One question though, is i5 quad-core or dual-core? I'm hoping it's still quad-core/octo-thread.
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quad for 45nm. Supposedly it won't be called i5 though...supposed to be i7 840 and so on.

Also the lower-end SKU's will have HT disabled, so 4c/4t for 2.66GHz lynnfield for example.
 
I don't know about you guys but I am not going to play drop the soap with intel. If they are just coming up with ways to squeeze me dry I will go to AMD.
 
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
alyarb Wow what an exclusive club. How do I join? Oh I know. Pay top dollar on a processor, mobo, triple channel memory and for what? Faster video encoding times and being able to run 3 gtx295's(which I refuse to pay for as well). Your right core i7 is performance king in cpu. I recently got a ssd and found out that by far the hard drive was the biggest bottleneck in my system. I am willing to wait a few more seconds on the most demanding applications. 99.8% of the time for what I really use my computer for I will see no difference from your core i7 and my qxxx. By the way i5 will offer almost identical performance so much so that i7 pretty much got dropped.

:wine: Heres to my next i5 rig.
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I don't understand what you're trying to say. Performance is tiered and products are priced accordingly. You can look up all the preliminary data you want, and the i5 comes in near, but behind, i7.

http://www.guru3d.com/news/cor...-perforamnce-revealed/
http://www.xfastest.com/redire...2494&goto=newpost#zoom

My point is that the these price tiers according the the most recent news story, are going to be adjusted, and the early adopters will have gotten their money's worth by september. I never said i5 was going to be a bad CPU, but I am telling you that performance will not be identical. I don't know what your problem is. If you want a mainstream build with a high-performance quad core and single GPU, you should be looking at AMD from a cost-benefit standpoint. Solid state disks improve read/load times. They do not increase the speed at which a CPU performs math. I don't know why you would even bring that up.

If you're primarily a gamer, you should like i5 as a single-GPU machine because of the on-die PCI express. You may have no business nitpicking about the differences between i5 and i7 in float-intensive work, but some of us do.

and nemesis, you're right. i assumed those were both mobile parts but i guess there is one 32nm desktop part.
 
I was trying to say that in real world usage the core i7 difference isn't that great. If you need a core i7 to run some cpu intensive program to run your business more effieciently then more power to you. I brought up SSD because in real world usage I found it to be 5x more important than a faster cpu. The only things that I find float intensive I flush down the toilet.
 
I think the problem is that we all have been happy with the single socket solution (i.e. 775) and Intel is trying to shake things up for their benefit. Socket 1366 seems like its going to be Extreme Edition only from here on out. They are trying to keep people like us from buying the low-end parts and then OCing them up to EE speeds. They want to prevent things like the E6600 or the 920 from happening again.
 
Zensal that pretty much sums it up. Very well put. I can only hope AMD comes out with a cpu that will compete with the i7's so intel can't make us squeel like pigs.
 
No one see the parallel between Socket 1366 and Socket 940? (FX-51..) I thought Intel was pretty clear that Socket 1366 wasn't meant for desktop from the beginning.
 
I fail to see why early adopters are "screwed" by this news. 1) We got an extreme high-end motherboard/CPU for under $500. 2) We can upgrade to G300 SLI without worrying about a PCI-E bottleneck which the P55 will assuredly have unless the motherboard manufacturers add more PCI-E lanes. Less PCI-E latency vs. more bandwidth...we'll see about that one. But if X58 is now "high-end" it hints at the winner here. 3) We get triple channel memory. It only adds 2-5% but it is a plus. 4) We have the opportunity to upgrade to a 6-core 32nm CPU next year. But now, because of this news, that 6-core chip is looking to be $1000 and no cheaper slower variants for the 1366 socket.

It's obvious the late-early adopters (920 came out later than the 965) got too good a deal and Intel wanted to stop it. I was pondering this very question a couple of days ago as to why Intel would allow us to have such great hardware at a cheap price. I don't claim any responsibility for this decision though. lol Heck....I might buy an extra motherboard and 920 D0 as they may jump up in price because of this. Now, who knows what Intel will do to Sandy Bridge to squeeze more money out of us. There may not be a great deal like we have today.
 
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
I was trying to say that in real world usage the core i7 difference isn't that great. If you need a core i7 to run some cpu intensive program to run your business more effieciently then more power to you. I brought up SSD because in real world usage I found it to be 5x more important than a faster cpu. The only things that I find float intensive I flush down the toilet.
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Please define real world usage, since in your world it doesn't include cpu intensive applications.
 
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