DrMrLordX
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Aapje
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That's $600!
You can get a 3070 or 3060 Ti for that money.
Seems that they don't want anyone to buy them.
GodisanAtheist
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-Wow, thank God he addressed the most pressing question on our minds!
That's a wrap folks, mods, please lock thread.
Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics – Desktop Quick Start...
System requirements for Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics for desktop.
www.intel.com
WTH is that??? So they won't support their dGPUs on their own pre-10th gen CPUs???
Their GPUs must be taking a serious nosedive without resizable bar support. They can forget about dumping their GPUs in poor countries.
Aapje
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Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics – Desktop Quick Start...
System requirements for Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics for desktop.
WTH is that??? So they won't support their dGPUs on their own pre-10th gen CPUs???
Their GPUs must be taking a serious nosedive without resizable bar support. They can forget about dumping their GPUs in poor countries.
This is why their apparent strategy to dump most of them in laptops make sense. Those have newer processors.
GodisanAtheist
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- So what we're seeing is a best case scenario? JEEEZZZUSSS
blckgrffn
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Remember the vitriol for the 6500XT? Sounds like this might be just as worthy.
Without, you know, what passes for reasonably solid drivers these days
Remember the vitriol for the 6500XT? Sounds like this might be just as worthy.
Without, you know, what passes for reasonably solid drivers these days
No, this is way worse.
Right now from initial reports it appears the Intel A380 is a $600 USD card equivalent to a rx6400. The rx6400 is at $160 USD card.
The rx6500xt at least had a purpose on release, it was the only purchasable card in its market segment at the time, and in PCIe4 systems it had the virtue of being ok.
At a $600 USD price point, the A380 is going straight up against the rtx3070 and the rx6750xt. Both of which have working drivers and appear to have 2.5x performance on the A380.
Right now, with the available and possibly incorrect information, this appears to be complete madness on Intel's part. Ripping off the Chinese buyer and destroying the companies reputation level of madness.
I think they are going for the crowd who think expensive means better quality.
Where are you guys getting that pricing? Ian had said it was cheaper than the RX 6400 on Twitter.
moinmoin
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Getting China's VAT wrong seems to be popular lately. It's 13% since 2019.
China Sales Tax Rate - VAT
The Sales Tax Rate in China stands at 13 percent. This page provides - China Sales Tax Rate - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.
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coercitiv
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They went with pricing in the headline of the VIdeocardz article and few read the entire article down to the last sentence:
Intel messing up a GPU launch should surprise nobody, though maybe people should stop ingesting whatever VCZ throws at them for page views. Nah, just kidding, $600 MSRP go wooooooooooooooo....
Because there is a placeholder price from one card in one shop some stupid people came to the conclusion this is the real price which is representative for the entire A380 and Alchemist series. And by the way the shop removed the offering, it's not even worth debating.
There is a chinese test from the Gunnir: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wY4y137D8?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click
It's horribly slow in this test if this is representative. He also made a power test with GPUz and some other game overlay....oddly low GPU temperature and board power draw: ~53-59C and ~41W in the game or ~22W in Furmark.
No idea if these tools are accurate for Alchemist already, if they are something is wrong, or how it it so low? The Gunnir has a board power of 92W. GPU clock speed of 2450 Mhz also makes no sense with such a low power unless it's running with disabled EUs. Could be inaccurate as well though.
Does anyone know what means A380 IU and A380 AU? IU runs a lot faster. AMD CPU and Intel CPU maybe?
CPU:R5 5600X/i5 12400F
It's horribly slow in this test if this is representative. He also made a power test with GPUz and some other game overlay....oddly low GPU temperature and board power draw: ~53-59C and ~41W in the game or ~22W in Furmark.
No idea if these tools are accurate for Alchemist already, if they are something is wrong, or how it it so low? The Gunnir has a board power of 92W. GPU clock speed of 2450 Mhz also makes no sense with such a low power unless it's running with disabled EUs. Could be inaccurate as well though.
Does anyone know what means A380 IU and A380 AU? IU runs a lot faster. AMD CPU and Intel CPU maybe?
CPU:R5 5600X/i5 12400F
Fanatical Meat
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Meh, I’m still on team intel, even if they are unexciting. Second gen will be better and third gen will be even better.
As I’ve said we desperately need a third player in the discrete card arena.
As I’ve said we desperately need a third player in the discrete card arena.
It doesn't matter what team you say you're on.
At some point you'll have to buy it. And with improved availability of Ampere and RDNA2 it is possible the only good reason to buy a A380 is its media block.
IntelUser2000
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Embargo lifts tomorrow according to a twitter leaker.
Update: @mikk Yes according to a translated comment, he wonders if older Intel platforms will be slower as it is on AMD systems.
This is a serious issue. People are going to wonder if they'll "cripple" it on AMD systems, or they are planning on "forcing" old users on new platforms.
Update: @mikk Yes according to a translated comment, he wonders if older Intel platforms will be slower as it is on AMD systems.
This is a serious issue. People are going to wonder if they'll "cripple" it on AMD systems, or they are planning on "forcing" old users on new platforms.
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Resizable BAR is only supported on Intel 10th, 11th, 12th gen for Arc GPUs initially. On AMD/Nvidia GPUs BAR on/off was minor in most games: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pag..._performance_amd_and_nvidia_benchmarks,3.html
In this chinese review the difference is huge between IU and AU.
In this chinese review the difference is huge between IU and AU.
IntelUser2000
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I have an RX 470 8GB for myself. Two systems in the sig are the specs. A <$150 card means even 10th Gen system may be too old. A single minor feature making that big of a difference is a big problem. According to that chart that feature is responsible for the card going from being worth $130 to $60.
There will also be people wondering if they are going to cripple non-Intel systems considering how it performs.
I am going to say this because I am of a few that reserves judgment until the last moment. Considering how quiet Intel has been, they know this as well. It's a disaster!
There will also be people wondering if they are going to cripple non-Intel systems considering how it performs.
I am going to say this because I am of a few that reserves judgment until the last moment. Considering how quiet Intel has been, they know this as well. It's a disaster!
I don't think Intel cares about that. Remember Raja's history with AMD? He probably doesn't give a damn about his babies running on AMD platform. Intel thinks the future is their CPU and GPU, both in laptops and desktops. At least, that's why they seem to be making Raja very comfy in his job. The GPU is slow? Oh it's not the hardware. Blame the driver people! Raja can do no wrong!
Nothing new for Raja. He'll pull through and keep his millions. Real losers will be the ones blamed for everything Raja did wrong.
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