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[DrMrLordX]

Limited Edition? The name fits.

 

[Tup3x]

It does look quite nice. Too bad that their driver team has not been in sync with the hardware team.

 

[IntelUser2000]

The A370M laptops are all EVO branded or very high end ones costing upwards of $1200.

I want to see them in $500-700 ones. With an AVERAGE selling price of $75, how can they be selling only on the extremely expensive laptops? Sure they are premium but let's see them on cheap ones. ASP of $75 means some are selling possibly for $50!

Also we all know it's truly mass volume when AMD laptops start getting ARC GPUs.

 

[PingSpike]

When did Larrabee start being conceptualized? 2004, 2005 timeframe? GPUs had something like 100-200 shader cores. Intel thought they could stay in the game with x86. Can see the Oracles at Intel saying, "control the language and you control the world".

I guess it's the same human failing that doomed so many companies. The inability to obsolete your own products. In this case, it's not even that, as both CPU & GPU profitably coexist. Just myopic stupid greed, "WE WANT ALL", and you end up way behind.

edit: Corrected shader core count

I think Intel looked to the past and saw that co-processors of many types were eventually absorbed by the chipset and/or cpu so they figured given enough time they'd absorb the GPU as well. Except GPUs outran them, manufacturing advances got more difficult and software ecosystems were built outside their gates while they waited for the prophecy to come true. It still could I guess, but it is further away than ever before.

 

[mikk]

Someone posted a laptop with A730M, it scored ~10100 points in timespy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533809356516773889

Intel Arc A730M is faster than RTX 3070 Laptop GPU in 3DMark TimeSpy test - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc A730M faster than RTX 3070 in 3DMark test The score of the ACM-G10 based mobile Intel Arc Alchemist graphics card has been leaked. Over at Weibo, the leaker known as “Golden Pig Upgrade” published a score from 3DMark Time Spy benchmark run with over 10K graphics points. This score was...

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[IntelUser2000]

So at least for mobile, the A770M should equal/exceed RTX 3080 Ti mobile in performance since the 3080 Ti only gets 12K in Time Spy and 30K in Fire Strike.

Firestrike = High frame rate, relative low demand
Time Spy = Higher demand

So they'll go at it equally in Esports games while A770M might end up being 10% faster. If they are at 3080 Ti mobile level, then it won't be that bad even if the RTX 4 series comes out. The RTX 4 series raises power use, so the gains in laptops will be a lot less.

Some hope for them in laptops.

 

[Tup3x]

Someone posted a laptop with A730M, it scored ~10100 points in timespy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533809356516773889

Intel Arc A730M is faster than RTX 3070 Laptop GPU in 3DMark TimeSpy test - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc A730M faster than RTX 3070 in 3DMark test The score of the ACM-G10 based mobile Intel Arc Alchemist graphics card has been leaked. Over at Weibo, the leaker known as “Golden Pig Upgrade” published a score from 3DMark Time Spy benchmark run with over 10K graphics points. This score was...

videocardz.com

This looks pretty promising. Considering my overclocked RTX 3060 Ti desktop gets ~13K. The full desktop version should definitely be around RTX 3070/RTX 3070 Ti in games where their drivers don't screw things up. Intel will have VRAM advantage though.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This looks pretty promising. Considering my overclocked RTX 3060 Ti desktop gets ~13K. The full desktop version should definitely be around RTX 3070/RTX 3070 Ti in games where their drivers don't screw things up. Intel will have VRAM advantage though.

Problem is it likely will appear when a 4060 exists. However I do not see this as bad news as I’ve said we need a third player in the discrete card arena. I want intel to bring something different to market.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Problem is it likely will appear when a 4060 exists. However I do not see this as bad news as I’ve said we need a third player in the discrete card arena. I want intel to bring something different to market.

Desktops they will struggle but it seems that they'll potentially fare much better on laptops. RTX 4060 = 220W, 4070 = 300W, 4080 = 400W

LOL good luck with that in laptops. So RTX 4060's 220W level is about the max for laptops. You'll need to clock that lower and bin it well to get that to 150W.

 

[mikk]

Problem is it likely will appear when a 4060 exists. However I do not see this as bad news as I’ve said we need a third player in the discrete card arena. I want intel to bring something different to market.

I don't think so, we most likely won't see RTX4000 mobile this year. The A730M device from above goes on sale in China.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533809356516773889

The company also provided a couple of performance metrics, with a 3DMark TimeSpy figure of 10002 points and a 3DMark Fire Strike figure of 23090 points. The TimeSpy score is a few points slower than the numbers posted earlier, but helps verify the earlier test result.

First Intel Arc A730M Powered Laptop Goes on Sale, in China

The first benchmark result of an Intel Arc A730M laptop made an appearance online and the mysterious laptop used to run 3DMark turned out to be from a Chinese company called Machenike. The laptop itself appears to go under the name of Dawn16 Discovery Edition and features a 16-inch display with...

www.techpowerup.com

23K points in Firestrike.

 

[IntelUser2000]

I don't think so, we most likely won't see RTX4000 mobile this year. The A730M device from above goes on sale in China.

Love to see a Remembrandt-H + A730M/A770M combo.

 

[Heartbreaker]

They refer to the A730 as "high end". Isn't that the lower end, with an A750 and A770 above it?
"tested this high-end discrete mobile graphics card "

Either way gaming performance is not living up to synthetic performance.

Intel Arc A730M has been tested in games with performance between RTX 3050 and RTX 3060 - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc A730M is barely faster than GeForce RTX 3050 in games We might finally understand why Intel Arc A-series was delayed by so many months. Following yesterday’s report demonstrating impressive on 3DMark Time Spy score featuring Intel Arc A730M GPU, today we learn more about actual...

videocardz.com

So it looks like they have a long way to go for actual gaming drivers.

 

[igor_kavinski]

For a first attempt, it's not bad. People expecting a miracle obviously do not know much about Raja Koduri's track record. His motto seems to be "Buy Now, Enjoy promised performance years later with optimized drivers".

 

[DeathReborn]

For a first attempt, it's not bad. People expecting a miracle obviously do not know much about Raja Koduri's track record. His motto seems to be "Buy Now, Enjoy promised performance years later with optimized drivers".

It's not their first attempt though, they have done Discrete GPU's before and failed. Having poorly done drivers in a release product is just not a good sign, people return things if they don't work as advertised & don't wait for "future" updates that might never come or require more money (Tesla).

 

[igor_kavinski]

You could say first serious modern attempt at a gaming gpu since the infamous i740. Do correct me please if I'm wrong.

The i740: Intel's Lead Architect Talks

The entrance of Intel's 3D accelerator chip, the i740, has sent developers, OEM's, and chip vendors scrambling for their whiteboards. Going to the source, Game Developer editor Alex Dunne talks with Jay Sturges, Intel's graphics chips lead planner/developer, to discuss chip design, developer...

www.gamedeveloper.com

Intel i740: Big Investments, Major Embarrassments

The Graphics Chip Chronicles Vol.4 No.1 - Intel's i740 processor struggled to keep pace with the performance of the competitors such as 3Dfx, Matrox and Nvidia. They rolled out...

www.electronicdesign.com

https://vintage3d.org/i740.php#sthash.60WY4bla.dpbs

 

[moinmoin]

The i740: Intel's Lead Architect Talks

The entrance of Intel's 3D accelerator chip, the i740, has sent developers, OEM's, and chip vendors scrambling for their whiteboards. Going to the source, Game Developer editor Alex Dunne talks with Jay Sturges, Intel's graphics chips lead planner/developer, to discuss chip design, developer...

www.gamedeveloper.com

It seems that graphics chips are evolving an increasingly rapid pace. What are Intel's goals for updating the silicon? Will we see a second generation i740 in '99?

You can be assured that the Intel740 is not a point product. Graphics is a business for us and we will continue to bring graphics technology to market.

 

[PingSpike]

I mean, technically Intel didn't leave the graphics market after the i740 failure. And technical truth is one of Intel's specialties.

 

[Leeea]

Someone posted a laptop with A730M, it scored ~10100 points in timespy.

I refuse to believe!

( or more accurately, am waiting for a 3rd party review website I trust to get ahold of it )

 

[Karnak]

Someone posted a laptop with A730M, it scored ~10100 points in timespy.

Not validated though. I assume there are still these driver "optimizations" active boosting the performance in synthetic benchmarks such as 3DMark.

 

[NTMBK]

You could say first serious modern attempt at a gaming gpu since the infamous i740. Do correct me please if I'm wrong.

The i740: Intel's Lead Architect Talks

The entrance of Intel's 3D accelerator chip, the i740, has sent developers, OEM's, and chip vendors scrambling for their whiteboards. Going to the source, Game Developer editor Alex Dunne talks with Jay Sturges, Intel's graphics chips lead planner/developer, to discuss chip design, developer...

www.gamedeveloper.com

Intel i740: Big Investments, Major Embarrassments

The Graphics Chip Chronicles Vol.4 No.1 - Intel's i740 processor struggled to keep pace with the performance of the competitors such as 3Dfx, Matrox and Nvidia. They rolled out...

www.electronicdesign.com

https://vintage3d.org/i740.php#sthash.60WY4bla.dpbs

Don't forget Larrabee.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Don't forget Larrabee.

Yeah but that miserable waste of space never made it into production, even though it was reportedly fully DirectX compatible and running games.

 

[DeathReborn]

Yeah but that miserable waste of space never made it into production, even though it was reportedly fully DirectX compatible and running games.

It's descendant in Xeon Phi did though.

 

[IntelUser2000]

They refer to the A730 as "high end". Isn't that the lower end, with an A750 and A770 above it?
"tested this high-end discrete mobile graphics card "

Either way gaming performance is not living up to synthetic performance.

Intel Arc A730M has been tested in games with performance between RTX 3050 and RTX 3060 - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc A730M is barely faster than GeForce RTX 3050 in games We might finally understand why Intel Arc A-series was delayed by so many months. Following yesterday’s report demonstrating impressive on 3DMark Time Spy score featuring Intel Arc A730M GPU, today we learn more about actual...

videocardz.com

So it looks like they have a long way to go for actual gaming drivers.

This might be a DTT problem again. Look at minimum fps for Metro Exodus. It's getting 9.57 fps. Same with Assassin's Creed.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I mean, technically Intel didn't leave the graphics market after the i740 failure. And technical truth is one of Intel's specialties.

Well, yes and no. They certainly left the discrete market in quite a hurry, but the i740 is the ancestor of every Intel integrated graphics since.

On the whole you could argue the i740-based family has been the most successful graphics architecture ever by sheer volume...

 

[mikk]

We need GPU power budget tests from the games, without this crucial info it's not that meaningful. Mobile GPUs can vary a lot within the same series. 91W in Furmark with zero CPU load doesn't tell much about game power usage, DTT is not the issue there if it's enabled. They also should make sure they have the newest driver installed (newest 1735 is compatible now). We need someone with laptop test knowledge for a real A730M investigation. On paper A730M is more comparable to RTX 3060M, both have the same bandwidth and 3060M can go to 130W TGP in some devices.