Intel SSD 520 rollout

[e-drood]

vr-zone & tom's & intel developer sign-in

http:www.vr-zone.com/articles/intel-ssd-...aster-tougher-successor-of-ssd-510/13542.html

soon

 

[Shmee]

well, link doesn't work. rapidly degrading is right

 

[e-drood]

and the real interest is,

the controller chip, of course, who's the daddy...

the rollout is set --- not like the seasonic platinum 1xxx watt psu vapourware we are all interested in buying --- hk agent swears on the heads of his three daughters that said psu in my hands october 15... we shall see... gold 850 watt here now...

 

[e-drood]

shmee, not your mistake --- my head was wrapped around 2 different simultaneous mobile phone calls & posting anandtech forum - anandtech got yay & call for $$$ got nay...

 

[gevorg]

The rent is still too damn high.

 

[groberts101]

and the real interest is,

the controller chip, of course, who's the daddy...

LOL... Sandforce.. is the word on the street. Trickle down effect sure won't hurt all the other vendors either. And maybe with Intel's budget/R&D we can finally move past many of the board/controller issues some are having so far.

Then.. the icing for me will be all the converts using them who talked smack about Sandforce/compression not too long ago.

 

[Cerb]

LOL... Sandforce.. is the word on the street. Trickle down effect sure won't hurt all the other vendors either. And maybe with Intel's budget/R&D we can finally move past many of the board/controller issues some are having so far.

Then.. the icing for me will be all the converts using them who talked smack about Sandforce/compression not too long ago.

If Intel writes their own firmware, and it works well, that won't do anything for those against Sandforce, except to show that Sandforce's software team(s) are not competent enough. If I were Intel, and considering using such a controller, I would make sure that the firmware would be mine, and other users of the controller would not get the slightest benefit from the work.

 

[groberts101]

you mean you would try.. anyways. The trickle down effect is all around us and really quite good at propelling us forward more quickly.

Otherwise.. everything would turn into a monopoly with only the biggest/richest companies reaping all the benefit. Competition is good for everyone involved in the end.

And I would have to counter that reply/assumption of completely narrowing all these issues down to the SF firmware as maybe even Intel has some dirty laundry involved here as well. Just you watch and see.. as time marches closer to release of those drives?.. there will be even more bios/OROM's and sata drivers released to combat it from the angles necessary.

IOW, Intel will finally fix the issues from their end before requiring Sandforce to completely eliminate them from theirs. Lots of feet dragging going on still even though much has already been done.

Now that the X79 platform got nuetered so badly it surely seems that they have been forced to deal with the issues more aggressively than ever before. Hard to get 10 x sata3 ports playing nicely together when you can't even get the current 2 x sata3 ports working exactly as intended. There are further reaching issues going on than just SF SSD related.

 

[Cerb]

you mean you would try.. anyways. The trickle down effect is all around us and really quite good at propelling us forward more quickly.

I don't disagree. A monopoly on firmware IP that's permanent would be bad for SF. "Here's Sandforce, Intel's bitch." Brands would be moving to other controllers left and right.

The trick would be to make a relationship with Intel to work with them a bit, so that they could improve all future controller generations (IE, learn from Intel's people, and improve their process), not just sell Intel some controllers, and throw documentation at them. I don't doubt that Sandforce is full of smart people, but I think it's pretty clear that they need help from people who have enough experience to have an internalized understanding of designing for reliability.

 

[groberts101]

very true of course.


you can run to the bank with the bet that Intel will be MUCH more forthcoming in that partnership than they already are at this point.

I've often joked before about the fact that Intel has been like someone trying to stall you at the door before letting you in. Knock.. knock.. "Hello it's Sandforce.. can we come in?.. we need to talk about your LPM features and partial slumber implementation to figure out how to best implement our hardware to work with your chipsets".

"Umm.. hold on a minute.. we have to get dressed first and we'll be right there".

When we get closer to release date?.. most of these current issues will be nearly gone altogether.

In fact.. I'm testing firmware right now that is disabling some of those very features(even though Intel practically wrote the spec) in hopes that if we can't beat em'?.. we'll just join em'.