Intel sold out of core logic chipsets.

[Sixtyfour]

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,,1857009,00.asp

Are they trying to say that: "If you sell AMD systems, we can't supply chipsets for your Intel based products" ?

 

[Furen]

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Are they trying to say that: "If you sell AMD systems, we can't supply chipsets for your Intel based products" ?

I think they're trying to say "buy our newest chipsets instead of our old ones", or they're trying to stimulate demand for these by making a shortage.

 

[Hacp]

Sold out because they stopped making the low end chips. Those low end chips are low margin, so they want to be involved in the higher margin chipsets.

 

[Sixtyfour]

I believe that all 3 points are true.

"If you sell AMD systems, we can't supply chipsets for your Intel based products"

"Sold out because they stopped making the low end chips. Those low end chips are low margin, so they want to be involved in the higher margin chipsets."

""buy our newest chipsets instead of our old ones", or they're trying to stimulate demand for these by making a shortage. "

or is that 4 ?

 

[Furen]

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Are they trying to say that: "If you sell AMD systems, we can't supply chipsets for your Intel based products" ?

I don't think that even Intel has the guts to do such a thing with an Antitrust case over its head.

 

[Sixtyfour]

Originally posted by: Furen

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Are they trying to say that: "If you sell AMD systems, we can't supply chipsets for your Intel based products" ?

I don't think that even Intel has the guts to do such a thing with an Antitrust case over its head.

They can give that impression by faking "sold out of", it should be enough to scare few OEM's.
It's possible to fake it by making it happen without doing anything that is illegal.

 

[Cooler]

And this is why i only get asus mobos.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: Cooler
And this is why i only get asus mobos.

Asus still uses Intel chipsets in some of their boards..

 

[Hacp]

NO problem, ATI, via, and the other chipset guys will fill Intel's shoes.

 

[AnandThenMan]

No, it's not true. Unless Intel is admitting they don't have the manufacturing capacity to supply the market.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Furen

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Are they trying to say that: "If you sell AMD systems, we can't supply chipsets for your Intel based products" ?

I don't think that even Intel has the guts to do such a thing with an Antitrust case over its head.

Actually this is sort of old news!!

When I bought my first Intel CPU which was a p2 350......

It was widely known that Intel used such practices to keep companies from using AMD products!!

Intel hasn`t changed at all!!

In fact alot of companies do that sort of thing in round about ways!!

Only Intel got caught...lol

 

[Wingznut]

Did you ever think that it could be the obvious... Demand is higher than Intel can supply them? (Because, that actually is the truth.)

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Did you ever think that it could be the obvious... Demand is higher than Intel can supply them? (Because, that actually is the truth.)

I took it as that way since the guy from INtel said something to the effect that all available chipsets are sold into the 4th quarter. I took it as meaning knowning their maximum capacity they had those chipsets already spoken for....

 

[JEDIYoda]

real good point!!!

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Did you ever think that it could be the obvious... Demand is higher than Intel can supply them? (Because, that actually is the truth.)

Considering probably most of Dell's systems use Intel CPUs as well as chipsets... and Dell sells a billiongazillion systems... might be a grain of truth in that...

 

[Pabster]

Most? ALL of Dell's systems use Intel processors and Intel chipsets. The upcoming exception (supposedly) will be the new XPS series with SLI which is rumored to use nForce4.

 

[ncage]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Sold out because they stopped making the low end chips. Those low end chips are low margin, so they want to be involved in the higher margin chipsets.

Ya and this is kind of wierd since on of intels' claims in the anitrust lawsuit that has been brought up against it is that oems don't go with amd because they can't offer a one cost low price solution that includes everything.

 

[DarkKnight69]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Did you ever think that it could be the obvious... Demand is higher than Intel can supply them? (Because, that actually is the truth.)

I took it as that way since the guy from INtel said something to the effect that all available chipsets are sold into the 4th quarter. I took it as meaning knowning their maximum capacity they had those chipsets already spoken for....

This is how I read it too, looks like not enough production. It says in the story that they are adjusting plants to produce more of them.

NO problem, ATI, via, and the other chipset guys will fill Intel's shoes.

I would take an intel chipset or via, ATi, and even nvidia any day...IMO they are better chipsets!

 

[Sixtyfour]

Being bold is not proof of innocence.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Did you ever think that it could be the obvious... Demand is higher than Intel can supply them? (Because, that actually is the truth.)

I took it as that way since the guy from INtel said something to the effect that all available chipsets are sold into the 4th quarter. I took it as meaning knowning their maximum capacity they had those chipsets already spoken for....

This is how I read it too, looks like not enough production. It says in the story that they are adjusting plants to produce more of them.

NO problem, ATI, via, and the other chipset guys will fill Intel's shoes.

I would take an intel chipset or via, ATi, and even nvidia any day...IMO they are better chipsets!

Have you been following the stories about intel? They said that they were officially discountining the making of the low end chipsets. THey "sold out" the chips because they are planning on not making them anymore, so the OEMs are trying to order as much as possible before they have to buy the more expensive chips from Intel. Its not a production problem at all. Intel just wants to get more margin from their chipsets, AKA make more money.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Have you been following the stories about intel? They said that they were officially discountining the making of the low end chipsets. THey "sold out" the chips because they are planning on not making them anymore, so the OEMs are trying to order as much as possible before they have to buy the more expensive chips from Intel. Its not a production problem at all. Intel just wants to get more margin from their chipsets, AKA make more money.

Incorrect. The fact is that Intel has maxed its capacity for chipsets, due to an increased demand.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Wingznut

Originally posted by: Hacp
Have you been following the stories about intel? They said that they were officially discountining the making of the low end chipsets. THey "sold out" the chips because they are planning on not making them anymore, so the OEMs are trying to order as much as possible before they have to buy the more expensive chips from Intel. Its not a production problem at all. Intel just wants to get more margin from their chipsets, AKA make more money.

Incorrect. The fact is that Intel has maxed its capacity for chipsets, due to an increased demand.

Increased demand? The only increased demand being reported for Intel by 3rd parties is in the mobile sector right now...and that demand (while still high) has stopped increasing at it's former high rate. My own guess is that Intel has chosen to shift resources towards their newer chips, and they have a supply problem.
I doubt there's anything nefarious about it (though I suppose it's possible that it's tied into the anti-trust case...).