Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

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dahorns

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I have always been one to buy premium components hoping to overclock and I always fail miserably :( This time around with a $250 gigabyte board, a high end closed loop cooler and a gold certified PSU I could barely get over stock speeds on my 3770K without redlining on temps :( I get sick of reading reviews claiming any old budget board will get atleast 500 MHz when I fail so often.

Uh? did you copy and paste every word from a different document with different fonts?
 

Sweepr

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Question to future Skylake owners. What memory configuration are you going to choose?
I might settle with 4x 8GB if prices drop a bit.
 

utahraptor

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Question to future Skylake owners. What memory configuration are you going to choose?
I might settle with 4x 8GB if prices drop a bit.

Possibly 2x4GB DDR4. The prices could be insane. I have 16GB now of DDR3 and I doubt I have ever exceeded 8GB used.

NVM, I did not realize it was already widely released. It seems reasonable, but not much faster.
 
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Racan

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Hardly. 6700K naming suggests that it may be easy as making a 4770K rather than 4790K. Or at least easier.

4790K took additional year from 4770K, and it has less headroom percentage-wise, meaning its sort of like a factory-overclocked part. Most parts clock conservatively so it doesn't create issues and they don't get sued. Hence most people get big overclocks.

With 6700K they are able to pull 4GHz right out of the bat, even though there are rumors that 14nm had significant problems and they still have issues. So at least they are doing something right.

If you follow the evolution, you'll see that when Intel releases a new generation i5K/i7K,(tock or tick) they try to at least match the frequencies of it's previous gen top clocked i5K/i7K models. The 4790K just set the bar a little too high, IMHO.
 

Muadib

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Question to future Skylake owners. What memory configuration are you going to choose?
I might settle with 4x 8GB if prices drop a bit.
How much is that now, and do you see prices for DDR 4 falling much in the next few months?
 

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How much is that now, and do you see prices for DDR 4 falling much in the next few months?

Don't expect to see prices drop dramatically until late 2015/early 2016.

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Sweepr

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How much is that now, and do you see prices for DDR 4 falling much in the next few months?

Still >$300 but hopefully it will fall to $200-250 at some point. I currently own a Core i7 5820K system with 4x 4GB. I want to play with Skylake later this year.

While I would (and did) choose Core i7 5820K over Devil's Canyon a 10-15% faster Skylake-K will make the choice more difficult for future aquisitions.
 
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Still >$300 but hopefully it will fall to $200-250 at some point. I currently own a Core i7 5820K system with 4x 4GB. I want to play with Skylake later this year.

While I would (and did) choose Core i7 5820K over Devil's Canyon a 10-15% faster Skylake-K will make the choice more difficult for future aquisitions.

For my personal gaming PC, I recently went X99, but for my work PC I'm now considering a 6700K.
 
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Question to future Skylake owners. What memory configuration are you going to choose?
I might settle with 4x 8GB if prices drop a bit.

If I do pick up Skylake, I will go with 4x8GB DDR4; the Haswell system it would replace has 4x8GB of DDR3.
 

CHADBOGA

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If I do pick up Skylake, I will go with 4x8GB DDR4; the Haswell system it would replace has 4x8GB of DDR3.

Do you find any benefit going with 32GB of RAM?

I was contemplating something like 32GB, but people here or elsewhere were insisting that for a desktop user, you don't need more than 8GB.
 
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Do you find any benefit going with 32GB of RAM?

I was contemplating something like 32GB, but people here or elsewhere were insisting that for a desktop user, you don't need more than 8GB.

I keep a ton of tabs, PDFs, videos, etc. open at any one time to switch back and forth from. Maybe because I have tons of memory I don't feel the need to close things, but I very often push past 16GB of RAM.
 

ShintaiDK

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Question to future Skylake owners. What memory configuration are you going to choose?
I might settle with 4x 8GB if prices drop a bit.

16 or 32GB. Depending on the options for MiniITX.

I guess I would need 2x8GB or 2x16GB for MiniITX.

16GB seems to be the minimum today if you game.
 

boozzer

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I got ivy, so I guess I will wait for cannon lake. or the one after if the performance is only slightly better than skylake. I really only care about ipc and fps in games.
 

ShintaiDK

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I got ivy, so I guess I will wait for cannon lake. or the one after if the performance is only slightly better than skylake. I really only care about ipc and fps in games.

Cannonlake will most likely be like Broadwell and may hardly, if ever see the desktop. Icelake seems to be the next jump for desktop users after a Skylake Refresh.
 

Aikouka

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Question to future Skylake owners. What memory configuration are you going to choose?
I might settle with 4x 8GB if prices drop a bit.

I haven't been paying too much attention to the recent Skylake information. So, have they stated the max memory configuration for the next chipset? Right now, non-enthusiast boards (e.g. Z97) only support up to 32GB. So, I'd probably go with 4x8GB. I don't usually use over 16GB, but it does happen sometimes. I tend to be a bit of a tab fiend. :p

I keep a ton of tabs, PDFs, videos, etc. open at any one time to switch back and forth from. Maybe because I have tons of memory I don't feel the need to close things, but I very often push past 16GB of RAM.

That happens a lot to me as well. Although, Firefox is really bad when it starts using a lot of memory. It gets to a point where it's constantly pegging a core (13% usage on my 4C+4T CPU), and that usually occurs when it's using 4-5GB+ of memory. Sometimes I've had it behave until about 8GB of usage. :p
 

ShintaiDK

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I haven't been paying too much attention to the recent Skylake information. So, have they stated the max memory configuration for the next chipset? Right now, non-enthusiast boards (e.g. Z97) only support up to 32GB. So, I'd probably go with 4x8GB. I don't usually use over 16GB, but it does happen sometimes. I tend to be a bit of a tab fiend. :p

Its nothing to do with the chipset, but with the CPU.

And DDR4 is the key for higher densities.
 

B-Riz

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Hmm, I have 16GB now and would start with that as a minimum.

Since it is a new cpu, board and CLC, maybe vid card; would get another 16GB if prices drop the 6 months after Skylake release.
 

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It will be interesting to see which of the memory manufactures first decides to make DDR4 non-ECC DIMMs that are larger than 8GB. Once that happens, I am guessing the others will be will feel compelled to do it as well.
 

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So realistically, when do you guys think Skylake will hit the market and actually be available for purchase with the appropriate platform (mobo/chipset)?