Intel screws LGA1366 users?

[Zap]

Variety is the spice of life as they say!

Try telling that to the wife. :whiste:

lolz... put a bench station outside and get overclocking!

Why u wasting god's gift to us?

Heh, I used to do that in my garage. Just open the garage door a bit in Winter and voila! Had great fun messing with low end chips (hey I had to pay for them when I was unemployed and a grad student). Had some 1.6GHz AM2 Semprons that was good for near double the speed.

 

[Makaveli]

Try telling that to the wife. :whiste:



Heh, I used to do that in my garage. Just open the garage door a bit in Winter and voila! Had great fun messing with low end chips (hey I had to pay for them when I was unemployed and a grad student). Had some 1.6GHz AM2 Semprons that was good for near double the speed.

haha zap that doesn't apply to relationships.

What would you do if you wife was the one that suggested that to you?

it goes both ways

 

[nOOky]

I would say if you have a 1366 set up and have had one for quite some time you shouldn't feel screwed. It will be current and plenty fast enough, good enough that you can probably skip over the 1155 SB and wait for the end of this year. That's almost 3 years of high performance if you were an early adopter! The new 1155 will be great for people like me who feel it's time to upgrade now, it's got a lower cost of entry and will be plenty fast and overclocks very well. I suspect 1366 users would be more interested in the higher end chips anyway, and wait until Q4 2011.

 

[Cygnus X1]

I haven't posted in a while. My bad. Anyway, Saturday night I ordered from Amazon (no tax free ship-prime California) the i7-950 for $289 and the Gigabyte Udr3 board for $199. These will be delivered Tueday the 4th 2011. Now I can refuse the shipment if I choose and look at the SB chips. My question is will it be worth it.

I shop from Amazon to save on tax and fast shipping and Amazon doesn't always have the parts that a newegg has.

Like I wanted the Asus x58 MB but it wasn't sold by Amazon, so I chose the Gigabyte. I want a new build but don't need it now, but I want it. I'm not a overclocker and if the savings is under $100 then SB may be to much a hassle. Amazon might now even stock the SB motherboards (all of them) at start. What should I do? Take delivery and keep it, or refuse shipment and look over my options?

 

[notty22]

I haven't posted in a while. My bad. Anyway, Saturday night I ordered from Amazon (no tax free ship-prime California) the i7-950 for $289 and the Gigabyte Udr3 board for $199. These will be delivered Tueday the 4th 2011. Now I can refuse the shipment if I choose and look at the SB chips. My question is will it be worth it.

I shop from Amazon to save on tax and fast shipping and Amazon doesn't always have the parts that a newegg has.

Like I wanted the Asus x58 MB but it wasn't sold by Amazon, so I chose the Gigabyte. I want a new build but don't need it now, but I want it. I'm not a overclocker and if the savings is under $100 then SB may be to much a hassle. Amazon might now even stock the SB motherboards (all of them) at start. What should I do? Take delivery and keep it, or refuse shipment and look over my options?

I would refuse/return. Here is the lineup... http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/...e-i5-2600k-i5-2500k-and-core-i3-2100-tested/2
for the same 300 dollars, you can now get 32nm quad 3.4 that turbo's to 3.8ghz. It will run cooler and the 2600K comes with the nice Intel heat pipe cooler shown in the reviews.

 

[nOOky]

I'd refuse it and check out the SB offerings also. I know you're not an overclocker, but it will be so easy as just entering the bios and changing a few settings...

 

[Rifter]

I haven't posted in a while. My bad. Anyway, Saturday night I ordered from Amazon (no tax free ship-prime California) the i7-950 for $289 and the Gigabyte Udr3 board for $199. These will be delivered Tueday the 4th 2011. Now I can refuse the shipment if I choose and look at the SB chips. My question is will it be worth it.

I shop from Amazon to save on tax and fast shipping and Amazon doesn't always have the parts that a newegg has.

Like I wanted the Asus x58 MB but it wasn't sold by Amazon, so I chose the Gigabyte. I want a new build but don't need it now, but I want it. I'm not a overclocker and if the savings is under $100 then SB may be to much a hassle. Amazon might now even stock the SB motherboards (all of them) at start. What should I do? Take delivery and keep it, or refuse shipment and look over my options?

Unless you plan to run tri SLI or Trifire i would return it.

 

[Cygnus X1]

thanks for replys...I already have 3 2 gig sticks of corsair 1600 ram I bought. Wanted triple lanes.Only paid $60, (Last Week Slickdeals) So I'am a Slickdealer so this is really bugging me. Buying the chip on the day it is dead. I guess I could just use 2 sticks for SB. and have the extra laying around.

 

[Arkaign]

ALL 1366 CPUs are still faster than most anything out there, SB just ups the ante even further. Even a midrange i5-760 or PhII 965BE/10xxT will pretty much max out any game right now so long as you have the GPU to keep up. For now it's bragging rights and a great leapfrog upgrade for core2/i3/dualcore users that need some extra juice. Modern quad to SB is pure luxury outside of someone who just can't stand to not have the fastest platform around.

 

[byteman99]

I've been with my 920 for 2 years now and I could easily see myself sticking with it for another year or two. No way I feel ripped off.

 

[Dadofamunky]

I spent good money on my 1366 setup and don't feel cheated at all. It's still wicked fast, and enough performance to last me a good long time.

That said, SB is quite impressive. A $310.00 CPU that can smack around the 980X is just crazy.

That is just crazy. I don't really see any reason why the 980x would ever be considered by anyone at this point. Makes you wonder what LGA 2011 will have up its sleeve?

Looks like everyone was getting excited for good reason, with those OCs on stock cooling no less. So far it appears that Intel's 32nm spin is absolutely dead on.

i heard its a 13XX variant.

LGA2011 is slatted for enterprise.
1155 i dont think so, or Supermicro, Tyan, and the other enterprise board builders would have a working product by now.

Based on my recent contract work at a startup, I'm pretty sure Supermicro will have a dual-socket board coming out.

 

[nyker96]

Screwed only if you had a false expectation that sandy bridge would be compatible. LGA-1366 gave you both nehalem and westmere. Anything extra would have been a lucky bonus. I'm still on core 2 platform, but I'll move to either lga-1155 or bulldozer next year.

you mean _this year_ it's 2011 buddy!

 

[Pneumothorax]

What screwed 1366 users is Intels refusal to sell ANY hexacore 1366 for less than $500! Therefore negating any reason to upgrade for 1366 users other than forcing them into SBs for less.

 

[Rifter]

What screwed 1366 users is Intels refusal to sell ANY hexacore 1366 for less than $500!

No what really screwed 1366 is AMD. If AMD had something to compete with the 6 core gulftowns they wouldnt be $500+

 

[Tsavo]

No what really screwed 1366 is AMD. If AMD had something to compete with the 6 core gulftowns they wouldnt be $500+

Rather, the AMD parts would be priced similarly as they were in the past when they were performance competitive.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

thanks for replys...I already have 3 2 gig sticks of corsair 1600 ram I bought. Wanted triple lanes.Only paid $60, (Last Week Slickdeals) So I'am a Slickdealer so this is really bugging me. Buying the chip on the day it is dead. I guess I could just use 2 sticks for SB. and have the extra laying around.

Well, to quote Anand:

Sandy Bridge all but puts the final nail in X58's coffin. Unless you're running a lot of heavily threaded applications, I would recommend a Core i7-2600K over even a Core i7-980X. While six cores are nice, you're better off pocketing the difference in cost and enjoying nearly the same performance across the board (if not better in many cases).

 

[Rifter]

Rather, the AMD parts would be priced similarly as they were in the past when they were performance competitive.

yeah but i think if AMD had something that could compete with gulftown they would have a price war and prices would be 350-400 not 500+

 

[edplayer]

So wait the concensus is Upgrade now since its available?

What happened to our hobby where all we usually needed was to replace the cpu, and the board when we pop'd the mosfet from overclocking?

What happened to the RAM being the first component in ones system to usually get upgraded?
Or the swapping of GPU's to keep up with demand in new and up coming games?

Has china spoiled us so much with price, that upgrading is no longer an option in a system one gets?

Now its manditory platform upgrade?

No, that is not the consensus. How did you even come up with that?

The thread consensus is that you get what you paid for. If you bought a S1156 cpu, it is reasonable to expect it to work with a S1156 motherboard. If you have a problem with that cpu, it is reasonable for Intel to honor their 3 year warranty. What is not reasonable is to feel the Intel "owes" you future cpu upgrades. If Intel promised that, then it would have been reasonable. Getting them is a bonus if they were not promised.


And for what happened to the hobby, RAM and gpu upgrades...

Times change, sometimes slowly but they are always changing. Why should the hobby stay the same? RAM pricing also changed. You can get a good amount of RAM from the beginning. Buy 1 or 2GB if you want so you can "upgrade" later. And GPU upgrades still happen all the time. Don't know where you got the idea from.


There are no "mandatory" platform upgrades. Stop being dramatic.

 

[AtenRa]

*sigh*

i bet you 1366 sales will still be higher then 1155 sales for one simple reason.



You think consumers rule the computer world?

Do you know the ratio of consumer to enterprise is almost 1:4 in the computer world correct?

Meaning, consumers hold a very small share. The bulk is in enterprise which hasnt gotten 1155.

Word has it there not even getting 1155, its going to get something else and 2011.

Do you think a lot of people will migrate to SB?
I sense more people who are on 1156 will probably skip 1155 because of the 1156 stunt intel pulled, and will probably actually SAVE up for a 2011 this time.

1366 users will probably laugh 1155 off, and wait for 2011.

AMD users or old Intel users might bite SB...
But i expect more people to wait on 2011.

Now because everyone is waiting on 2011, i expect intel to DELAY 2011.

In desktop market Socket 1366 occupies only 1%

The BGA Atom market takes some 5 percent of all desktop sockets and it will stay at this number through most of 2011 but the high end socket LGA 1366 is present with one percent of all sockets and this won’t change through most of 2011.

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/...ll-makes-up-65-percent-of-intels-market-today

In the meantime Intel hopes that in Q1 2011 Sandy bridge wille make up some 15 percent, in Q2 2011 Sandy Bridge should cover some 35 percent of the market while in Q3 2011 Sandy Bridge is expected to conquer some impressive 60 percent out of Intel's 32nm production.

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/21344-intel-plans-70- -percent-of-q3-2011-to-be-32nm

People with Core i5/7, 1366 and AMD Phenom II X6 users dont really need to upgrade to SandyBridge unless they just want to stay in the top. But people like me with 775/AM2 could actually see a nice performance increase and new platform features like SATA-3 and USB-3, not to mention a lower power usage.

 

[evident]

so glad i kept my 775 and skipped the 1156/1366 generation of i5/i7's. the 775 platform lasted me a good 6 years. now lets see if i can hold out or if it's finally time to sell the DDR2...

 

[mosox]

the 775 platform lasted me a good 6 years.

Aaand that's exactly what they don't like. People like you who cling on their systems way too long, preventing them from pocketing more $$$. I've already seen in here people who want to go from i-5 750 to the 2500K, those are good people - you are bad. But lately they have a fix for guys like you. 10 CPU sockets and soon each CPU with its own socket.

The video card manufacturers are stupid. Why not change the slot for every generation? Why not go from "PCIe 2.0" to "Wewantmoremoneyfromya 3.0"?

 

[tomoyo]

Try telling that to the wife. :whiste:

Are you saying she doesn't want to go through every position in the kama sutra?

 

[BladeVenom]

The video card manufacturers are stupid. Why not change the slot for every generation? Why not go from "PCIe 2.0" to "Wewantmoremoneyfromya 3.0"?

LOL! If Intel made video cards, they'd do it that way.

 

[tomoyo]

Aaand that's exactly what they don't like. People like you who cling on their systems way too long, preventing them from pocketing more $$$. I've already seen in here people who want to go from i-5 750 to the 2500K, those are good people - you are bad. But lately they have a fix for guys like you. 10 CPU sockets and soon each CPU with its own socket.

The video card manufacturers are stupid. Why not change the slot for every generation? Why not go from "PCIe 2.0" to "Wewantmoremoneyfromya 3.0"?

Because video card manufacturers wouldn't make money from that, the motherboard makers would. Video card makers want their video cards available to buy for as many people as possible. That's why PCIe is fully backward compatable to 1.0 and even to any electrical slot amount between 1x to 16x.

 

[tomoyo]

you mean _this year_ it's 2011 buddy!

Lol, well I was living in the past. Takes me a few days to catch up to 2011. So hopefully bulldozer in 4-6 months, than we can all debate whether we should go amd or intel