Intel SB Celeron G460 - single-core with HT!

[VirtualLarry]

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011121101_Intel_launched_Celeron_G460_and_807UE_CPUs.html

Sounds interesting to me.

 

[Belegost]

For the desktop space I'm not seeing the benefits over the dual-core 530. However, that embedded 10W TDP part could be interesting.

 

[Kristijonas]

G460 sounds like a perfect solution for the most power-saving PC build.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Could be a solid HTPC chip, but I am skeptical its real TDP is really much lower than the G530's despite the 30W nominal/official difference. And by the time you add a board, it'll compete directly with AMD's E-350 that uses even less juice and has a better GPU.

Can't really imagine why I'd buy one.

 

[PingSpike]

Could be a solid HTPC chip, but I am skeptical its real TDP is really much lower than the G530's despite the 30W nominal/official difference. And by the time you add a board, it'll compete directly with AMD's E-350 that uses even less juice and has a better GPU.

Can't really imagine why I'd buy one.

I stumbled upon this article: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-g540-g440_8.html the other day when some one suggested I look at the celeron G530 as an alternative to the e-350 is interesting. It has a test of a e-350 versus the celeron G440 single core with its integrated graphics. It should be noted the e-350 used is a gigabyte board not known for being particularly efficient but other boards have their values available in other articles on x-bit labs. The interesting thing is the power consumption of the of the G440 though.

X-bit mentions that EIST is actually disabled on the chip they tested. I wonder if the HT would make much of a difference in multithreaded apps like they tested and I really wonder if this new celeron has EIST because even without it the G440 is in the same range as the e-350.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Thanks for the link. The benchmarks are clear: power consumption is equivalent using one of the least efficient Brazos boards I've used and tested. Performance is essentially a push as well - no one's gonna buy these to do video transcoding or Photoshop work - the benchmarks where the G440 takes the lead are pointless for this type of processor.

I still can't think of a reason I'd buy one or recommend one. Brazos is simply too feature rich for its price - for < $100 you're getting a board with USB 3.0, VGA/DVI/HDMI, gigabit ethernet, and optical s/pdif - good luck finding those on a $60 ITX 1155 board.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Thanks for the link. The benchmarks are clear: power consumption is equivalent using one of the least efficient Brazos boards I've used and tested. Performance is essentially a push as well - no one's gonna buy these to do video transcoding or Photoshop work - the benchmarks where the G440 takes the lead are pointless for this type of processor.

I still can't think of a reason I'd buy one or recommend one. Brazos is simply too feature rich for its price - for < $100 you're getting a board with USB 3.0, VGA/DVI/HDMI, gigabit ethernet, and optical s/pdif - good luck finding those on a $60 ITX 1155 board.

I could only recommend one for a person coming off a Pentium 4 space heater and only does very basic emailing and tasking.

Would be awesome to pit this thing against the fastest Pentium 4 extreme for shits and giggles the g440 would prob b*tchslap it too ha:awe:

 

[janas19]

Damn, I was so sure I would pick a G530. Now, I'm not sure.

 

[Chiropteran]

Not sure I see any reason for these to exist.

 

[Maximilian]

I could only recommend one for a person coming off a Pentium 4 space heater and only does very basic emailing and tasking.

Would be awesome to pit this thing against the fastest Pentium 4 extreme for shits and giggles the g440 would prob b*tchslap it too ha:awe:

That would be cool to see!

 

[janas19]

That would be cool to see!

Agreed.

 

[Bman123]

Damn, I was so sure I would pick a G530. Now, I'm not sure.

Not sure of what? No way would I take the single core celeron over my G530. This is a real nice cpu and it's a super cheap dual core.

 

[Bman123]

I could only recommend one for a person coming off a Pentium 4 space heater and only does very basic emailing and tasking.

Would be awesome to pit this thing against the fastest Pentium 4 extreme for shits and giggles the g440 would prob b*tchslap it too ha:awe:

I am sure it would rape the pentium, it's a huge change in architecture. I had a old dell with a pentium d dual core 930 at 3ghz and my 2.4ghz celeron G530 runs circles around it night and day..

 

[Belegost]

Could be a solid HTPC chip, but I am skeptical its real TDP is really much lower than the G530's despite the 30W nominal/official difference. And by the time you add a board, it'll compete directly with AMD's E-350 that uses even less juice and has a better GPU.

Can't really imagine why I'd buy one.

This is why I mentioned it didn't seem that exciting. I think overall the power usage under average load will be very similar, but the 530 will provide more muscle when you need it, at the expense of higher consumption during a load that pushes both cores.

However, to replace the absolute bottom end, I guess a single core + HT is better than one without HT.

 

[gmaster456]

I don't really see a point. Maybe for a stictly Word Processing, web browsing machine. But even then I'd recommend the 530. I see no reason to get a Single Core CPU these days, whether they have HT or not. Actual power saving would be negligible between the 460 and the 530 unless your constantly running both CPU at 100&#37; load with the fans cranked up.

 

[Zap]

I see no reason to get a Single Core CPU these days, whether they have HT or not.

Socket 775 Celeron 400 series must have sold well enough that Intel felt it needed to continue selling single core CPUs (besides Atom). D:

 

[VirtualLarry]

Socket 775 Celeron 400 series must have sold well enough that Intel felt it needed to continue selling single core CPUs (besides Atom). D:

I built my mom a computer a few years back, with a Celeron 440, I think it was. 2.0Ghz C2D single-core. Runs so cool, the tiny slim stock heatsink only spins part of the time, when "Smart Fan" is activated. I prefer things as cool as possible, so I disabled CPU smart fan to make the fan run all the time. Could probably run it passive, with a full-height stock Intel heatsink.