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Pederv

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When somebody asks:
"What should I get?"
The mantra is:
"Get Conroe, Get Conroe, Get Conroe"

It used to be that people would find out what a person is going to use their system for, how much they had to spend and what processors were available to choose from at there location.

Now the Intel sales team is pushing Conroe, when availability is still an unknown. It would be nice if they could at least give those people asking for advice, a couple of options. You know, not everyone might have access to Conroe when it launches.
 
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krotchy

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I have an Opteron 170, and I am very happy with it. I use an FX-60 at work for heavy duty video encoding (h.264 anyone?). However I built the opteron in March and the FX-60 a month ago.

Today I would build conroe, just how it goes. However If someone needs a system in a hurry, Ill recommend an AM2 based computer, or if they have nice DDR chips a 939 system.

The reason there is an intel "sales force" is because it IS the better chip accross the board right now. If you have the ability to wait, and are doing a complete upgrade, there is no reason not to get it. If you cant afford to wait for a Conroe, then get an X2. I still stand by my hatred of the Pentium D's, and think that they completely suck ****, albeit having a couple of applications, which I have recommended them for. But the conroe, this makes me appreciate intel again, and I see no reason not to wait if you can. Buying AMD because you like them better is dumb, buying them because a Conroe isnt availible, that is a different story.

Does me reccomending a Conroe make me a sales force. Well I guess Im sorry for recommending the best price/performance/watt chip. What was I thinking!
 
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You didn't need to make yet another Conroe thread...

You are right that C2D isn't really available yet.
But are you honestly trying to tell us you would prefer to buy an AM2 3800+ today instead of waiting about a month or less for a far superior CPU & system?

C2D appears to be the best deal for pretty much everyone (save for perhaps the uber-budget builder) no matter how you look at it.
 
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C2D is great but I'm not buying a whole new platform after using this thing for 8 months. Might go dual core but that's it.
 
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furballi

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Conroe is not a better CPU for the average PC user. Most people would not spend $150K on a Ferrari to commute to work. A 3GHz PC is plenty fast for browsing the internet, ripping/burning CD/DVD, running Office applications, and gaming.
 
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Dribble

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Originally posted by: Pederv
When somebody asks:
"What should I get?"
The mantra is:
"Get Conroe, Get Conroe, Get Conroe"
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/me looks back 6 months and sees endless "Get A64, Get A64, Get A64"

What do you expect? If someone asks should people stop recomending the best chip and just recomend something else for a bit of a change....because you are bored of hearing the same thing....
 
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harpoon84

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Originally posted by: Dribble
Originally posted by: Pederv
When somebody asks:
"What should I get?"
The mantra is:
"Get Conroe, Get Conroe, Get Conroe"
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/me looks back 6 months and sees endless "Get A64, Get A64, Get A64"

What do you expect? If someone asks should people stop recomending the best chip and just recomend something else for a bit of a change....because you are bored of hearing the same thing....
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Exactly, people are just recommend the best performing chip, or the best chip based on price/performance.

After AMD's price cuts there will be cheap A64s that would be suitable for the average user who doesn't require dual core, but if we are talking DC here then Conroe is the only choice, unless you want one for less than $100 then perhaps go for a PD 805.
 
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Originally posted by: furballi
Conroe is not a better CPU for the average PC user. Most people would not spend $150K on a Ferrari to commute to work. A 3GHz PC is plenty fast for browsing the internet, ripping/burning CD/DVD, running Office applications, and gaming.
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This is a PC enthusiast site. People who post here are not going to be joe redneck browsing porn with his smoke stained 15" CRT and pork rine filled keyboard. People who post here are more likely to run CPU intensive programs.
 
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Pederv

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So you would consider a thread along these lines to be helpful?

I'm thinking about upgrading my system, what should I get?
GET A CONROE
What kind of motherboard?
GIGABYTE 965 CHIPSET
All I have is legacy IDE drives
BUY NEW DRIVES

No alternatives given, wow, big help
 
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imported_inspire

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Originally posted by: Pederv
So you would consider a thread along these lines to be helpful?

I'm thinking about upgrading my system, what should I get?
GET A CONROE
What kind of motherboard?
GIGABYTE 965 CHIPSET
All I have is legacy IDE drives
BUY NEW DRIVES

No alternatives given, wow, big help
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The reason folks are saying this is because nobody actually has a system like that, but everybody wants it. There's really not a whole lot to go on for Conroe once you get over the initial giddy elation that it wtfpwns A64's. As time goes on and folks here have the opportunity to pioneer, then we'll have some genuine advice. For now, though, BUY A CONROE!
 
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AkumaX

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Originally posted by: Pederv
It used to be that people would find out what a person is going to use their system for, how much they had to spend and what processors were available to choose from at there location.
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Conroe should theoretically be an easy choice for any upgrade path except low-end budget. It's kinda hard to beat cheap Sempron combos, 754/939/or AM2. Even Intel has low end stuff too, but I would NEVER recommend a Netburst CPU. EVER.
 
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swtethan

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Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Pederv
It used to be that people would find out what a person is going to use their system for, how much they had to spend and what processors were available to choose from at there location.
Click to expand...

Conroe should theoretically be an easy choice for any upgrade path except low-end budget. It's kinda hard to beat cheap Sempron combos, 754/939/or AM2. Even Intel has low end stuff too, but I would NEVER recommend a Netburst CPU. EVER.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092


this board supports conroe, DDR, DDR2, PCI-e, and AGP

pair that with a 6300 and it rounds off to about $250

and you wont have to buy new memory (am2)





 
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CyborgNinja117

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err an intel sales person wont say get conroe... he would say get pentium D! why? coz intel wants all the pentium D's to go.
 
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jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Pederv
It used to be that people would find out what a person is going to use their system for, how much they had to spend and what processors were available to choose from at there location.
Click to expand...

Conroe should theoretically be an easy choice for any upgrade path except low-end budget. It's kinda hard to beat cheap Sempron combos, 754/939/or AM2. Even Intel has low end stuff too, but I would NEVER recommend a Netburst CPU. EVER.
Click to expand...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092


this board supports conroe, DDR, DDR2, PCI-e, and AGP

pair that with a 6300 and it rounds off to about $250

and you wont have to buy new memory (am2)
Click to expand...

I don't think I would trust a $58 motherboard


 
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DaveSimmons

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I recommended the Northwood P4C's when they were the best. When AMD took over I recommended them. For a new system over $500 I'd now recommend Conroe.

Your "I have parts I want to re-use" case is the minority of threads in Gen Hardware, most people building a new system buy new faster / bigger drives to go with it.

(Upgrade threads are of course different, if AMD cuts 939 prices enough upgrading to a faster X2 will be the best choice for many people who have slower 939 CPUs and I'd say so.)

Just like with ATI and nVidia, they take turns offering the best price/performance and I recommend the one that offers the best.

For a "momputer" for email and Solitaire I'd recommend a Dell, because they're cheap and mom doesn't want to build her own. Not because it has the awesome power of Celeron inside :)
 
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swtethan

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Pederv
It used to be that people would find out what a person is going to use their system for, how much they had to spend and what processors were available to choose from at there location.
Click to expand...

Conroe should theoretically be an easy choice for any upgrade path except low-end budget. It's kinda hard to beat cheap Sempron combos, 754/939/or AM2. Even Intel has low end stuff too, but I would NEVER recommend a Netburst CPU. EVER.
Click to expand...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092


this board supports conroe, DDR, DDR2, PCI-e, and AGP

pair that with a 6300 and it rounds off to about $250

and you wont have to buy new memory (am2)
Click to expand...

I don't think I would trust a $58 motherboard
Click to expand...

well on the low end, thats what they cost, k?
 
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MercenaryForHire

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: AkumaX
Originally posted by: Pederv
It used to be that people would find out what a person is going to use their system for, how much they had to spend and what processors were available to choose from at there location.
Click to expand...

Conroe should theoretically be an easy choice for any upgrade path except low-end budget. It's kinda hard to beat cheap Sempron combos, 754/939/or AM2. Even Intel has low end stuff too, but I would NEVER recommend a Netburst CPU. EVER.
Click to expand...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092


this board supports conroe, DDR, DDR2, PCI-e, and AGP

pair that with a 6300 and it rounds off to about $250

and you wont have to buy new memory (am2)
Click to expand...

I don't think I would trust a $58 motherboard
Click to expand...

well on the low end, thats what they cost, k?
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However, that bastard child of four different RAM and video standards would give you some pretty ass-poor performance on your new C2D, I'd wager. :p

- M4H
 
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Pederv

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When it comes to helping some of these newbies asking what system they should build. I would have expected at least:
"Wait a couple of weeks, the review sites will start listing motherboards that can handle a Conroe. If you can't afford a Conroe or find one, then get a PD805 and wait for the supply to stabalize."

Instead of somebody doing a driveby and shooting their "Get a Conroe" gun.
 
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It dosent matter what theyre doing, and why confuse somone who may already be confused even more. A cpu is a cpu and conroe is the best for all things. Theres no need for another option.
 
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eelw

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Originally posted by: swtethan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092


this board supports conroe, DDR, DDR2, PCI-e, and AGP

pair that with a 6300 and it rounds off to about $250

and you wont have to buy new memory (am2)
Click to expand...


Hmmmm. I plan to get a E6600 at launch, but I still need to wait for a compatible Shuttle XPC. For around $80, that's not a bad stop gap measure while I wait for the sn37p2 to get released towards to end of August.
 
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