Intel?s Price Reduction on July 22

[hardwareking]

i can already see the Q6600 running in my computer with a P35 based motherboard

 

[jhtrico1850]

Originally posted by: HopJokey

Originally posted by: DasFox
What are the E6600 going to be priced at?

ALOHA

It looks like the E6600 will be phased out on July 22. It will be replaced by the 2.33Ghz, 1333FSB E6550 @ $133. There is also the 2.66Ghz, 1333FSB E6750 @ $183 and the 3.0Ghz E6850 @ $266 (same as 2.4 Ghz Q6600).

@$133 is the E4500 2.2GHz 2MB 800FSB and @$163 is the E6550 2.33GHz 4MB 1333FSB

 

[AndyD2k]

Ah nice. I was planning on building in early July but might as well wait for the cuts

 

[DasFox]

bump for others to see...

 

[KeithTalent]

Hmm, so for a gaming rig (some business work as well, but not really a factor in the decision obviously) is the E6850 or Q6600 the better purchase? Assuming no overclocking.

Oh and what does TXT mean on the chart?

Thanks,
KT

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, so for a gaming rig (some business work as well, but not really a factor in the decision obviously) is the E6850 or Q6600 the better purchase? Assuming no overclocking.

Oh and what does TXT mean on the chart?

Thanks,
KT

Assuming no overclocking? You have to be a madman not to overclock your Core2; you can hit 3ghz virtually 100% of the time.

TXT = Trusted Execution Technology

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, so for a gaming rig (some business work as well, but not really a factor in the decision obviously) is the E6850 or Q6600 the better purchase? Assuming no overclocking.

Oh and what does TXT mean on the chart?

Thanks,
KT

Assuming no overclocking? You have to be a madman not to overclock your Core2; you can hit 3ghz virtually 100% of the time.

TXT = Trusted Execution Technology

I'm a clutz and would be sure to break something.

Soooo, assuming no overclocking....?

Cheers,
KT

PS: thanks for the definition!

 

[Pwntcomputer]

Anyone have the inside on Penryn pricing?

Mmmmmm 45nm Quad core.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, so for a gaming rig (some business work as well, but not really a factor in the decision obviously) is the E6850 or Q6600 the better purchase? Assuming no overclocking.

Oh and what does TXT mean on the chart?

Thanks,
KT

Assuming no overclocking? You have to be a madman not to overclock your Core2; you can hit 3ghz virtually 100% of the time.

TXT = Trusted Execution Technology

I'm a clutz and would be sure to break something.

Soooo, assuming no overclocking....?

Cheers,
KT

PS: thanks for the definition!

You'd have to struggle to break something, overclocking is as easy as lowering the memory ratio and increasing the front side bus; 3ghz isn't a very risky overclock for Core2 chips, but it's your choice.

As for the difference, it entirely depends on what you're doing. The E6850 has the higher clockspeed, so anything using just 1 or 2 cores will run faster on the E6850 than the Q6600. However anything that can properly use 3+ cores will run faster on the Q6600. Between the two I'd go for the Q6600, but I'd probably overclock it to 3ghz anyhow.

 

[CrystalBay]

I have a feeling the Q6600 will be heavily binned parts, so YMMV on the OC. I been wrong before though

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Hmm, so for a gaming rig (some business work as well, but not really a factor in the decision obviously) is the E6850 or Q6600 the better purchase? Assuming no overclocking.

Oh and what does TXT mean on the chart?

Thanks,
KT

Assuming no overclocking? You have to be a madman not to overclock your Core2; you can hit 3ghz virtually 100% of the time.

TXT = Trusted Execution Technology

I'm a clutz and would be sure to break something.

Soooo, assuming no overclocking....?

Cheers,
KT

PS: thanks for the definition!

You'd have to struggle to break something, overclocking is as easy as lowering the memory ratio and increasing the front side bus; 3ghz isn't a very risky overclock for Core2 chips, but it's your choice.

As for the difference, it entirely depends on what you're doing. The E6850 has the higher clockspeed, so anything using just 1 or 2 cores will run faster on the E6850 than the Q6600. However anything that can properly use 3+ cores will run faster on the Q6600. Between the two I'd go for the Q6600, but I'd probably overclock it to 3ghz anyhow.

I know everyone says it is extremely easy, but my eyes always glaze over whenever I start reading about increasing HTT & FSB, memory dividers, and multipliers.

I think the real problem is I am just way too lazy.

Passing up a quad-core for $266 would be very difficult to do, so I will probably end up going with that.

Cheers,
KT

 

[bryanW1995]

KT, it is unbelievably easy to oc a c2d. I haven't used an intel rig in 5 yrs, but I built a c2d for my cousin last november. I booted it up, changed 2 settings in the bios, and his e6600 was stable at 3150. absolutely no issues. It literally took me 3 minutes.

You might want to consider the e6850 instead of q6600 if you are planning to use it for gaming. You are almost certainly going to receive more benefit from the 25 % higher clock speed (and higher fsb, too). Plus, it should be cheaper on the electricity bill.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
I have a feeling the Q6600 will be heavily binned parts, so YMMV on the OC. I been wrong before though

There's always the risk, but at this point Intel has been producing the Conroe die for over a year now and pretty much has the 65nm process down pat. The number of poorly performing dice that aren't completely invalid is going to be pretty low.

 

[Fenixgoon]

what's going to happen to the bottom end? i'm thinking of grabbing an E4300 in the near future, should i wait for the pricecuts and/or different CPU?

 

[buddhatb]

Anxiously waiting til July to put together my Q6600 running on a P35 powered system.

 

[AkumaX]

it's a wet dream, but any Q6600 w/ 16mb L2 (4mb per core?)

 

[CrystalBay]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
I have a feeling the Q6600 will be heavily binned parts, so YMMV on the OC. I been wrong before though

There's always the risk, but at this point Intel has been producing the Conroe die for over a year now and pretty much has the 65nm process down pat. The number of poorly performing dice that aren't completely invalid is going to be pretty low.

Good point , $266 is a screaming deal, Fo shor...

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
what's going to happen to the bottom end? i'm thinking of grabbing an E4300 in the near future, should i wait for the pricecuts and/or different CPU?

E4300 will be phased out and E4400 will take it's place, with a E4500 introduced as well.

You also have even lower end SKU's in the Pentium E2140, E2160.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
KT, it is unbelievably easy to oc a c2d. I haven't used an intel rig in 5 yrs, but I built a c2d for my cousin last november. I booted it up, changed 2 settings in the bios, and his e6600 was stable at 3150. absolutely no issues. It literally took me 3 minutes.

You might want to consider the e6850 instead of q6600 if you are planning to use it for gaming. You are almost certainly going to receive more benefit from the 25 % higher clock speed (and higher fsb, too). Plus, it should be cheaper on the electricity bill.

Well I may take a look at it. I have a 6600 right now, so once I get my new mobo, I may try and fiddle with things a bit.

You are probably right about the 6850, and saving a little electricity is probably a good thing, considering I am thinking of crossfired 2900XTs, which will probably triple my electricity bill on their own.

Cheers,
KT

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Eh, it cycles over and over...AMD to Intel, AMD isn't going anywhere.

I agree. It took Intel almost 2 years to retake the lead and they have a much larger amount of resources and R&D budget than AMD. AMD wont get back ontop right away but they'll stay competitive until they do. The immediate benefit is that AMD is helping to keep chip prices low. As long as the Intel/AMD price wars continue consumers win.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
it's a wet dream, but any Q6600 w/ 16mb L2 (4mb per core?)

Well in order for that to happen you would need a dual core with 8mb of cache..since the quad core is a pair of dual cores packaged together..

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
it's a wet dream, but any Q6600 w/ 16mb L2 (4mb per core?)

Penryn quad-core will have 12MB L2 (3MB per core).

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
what's going to happen to the bottom end? i'm thinking of grabbing an E4300 in the near future, should i wait for the pricecuts and/or different CPU?

E4300 will be phased out and E4400 will take it's place, with a E4500 introduced as well.

You also have even lower end SKU's in the Pentium E2140, E2160.

any point to pulling the trigger now vs. later, then?

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
what's going to happen to the bottom end? i'm thinking of grabbing an E4300 in the near future, should i wait for the pricecuts and/or different CPU?

E4300 will be phased out and E4400 will take it's place, with a E4500 introduced as well.

You also have even lower end SKU's in the Pentium E2140, E2160.

any point to pulling the trigger now vs. later, then?

Well you get to enjoy Core 2 performance for 7 weeks earlier then you would have. It's up to you if that is worth it or not.

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: coldpower27

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
what's going to happen to the bottom end? i'm thinking of grabbing an E4300 in the near future, should i wait for the pricecuts and/or different CPU?

E4300 will be phased out and E4400 will take it's place, with a E4500 introduced as well.

You also have even lower end SKU's in the Pentium E2140, E2160.

any point to pulling the trigger now vs. later, then?

Well you get to enjoy Core 2 performance for 7 weeks earlier then you would have. It's up to you if that is worth it or not.

i say you should do it; buy a e4300 at, what is market rate now, ~$100?

build a system with a good hsf, work out all the kinks, when when 7/22 drops, sell the e4300 probably for ~70-80, i'd say it's worth it to experience c2d for a while and make sure your system is up and running since a c2q is going to be an easy cpu swap