Intel?s Price Reduction on July 22

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programmer

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Sounds great! But is there DDR2 RAM that will run fast enough for the 1333 bus? Would that be PC6400 or PC8000? Or something faster required?? I am out of the loop on the bus speeds/mem. dividers/etc. on DDR2.

Can't wait to get a E6750 for $183!
 
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That's... astonishing. HKPEC is pretty reputable, so I'm inclined to believe 'em, even though my "too good to be true" alarm is chirping softly. I guess Barcelona might not suck?

Anyways, a Q6600 for $266 (what's the current bulk price for the E6600?) is friggin' awesome. I still think they need to yank the P-D as their lower end dual core CPU and replace it with the C2D, but this should definitely be a kick in the balls to the A64X2.
 
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AHHHHHHHH. why oh why couldn't intel make the FSB just a mere 4mhz faster. WHY!!!!!!!!!!

Forget intel until they get me that 4mhz fsb.

lets go from 1333 to 1337 =P
 
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jkresh

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Q6600 will be very tempting at that point, but these prices were listed alot earlier (on Dailytech) though I don't think the exact date of this price drop was listed before (sumer/fall was suggested).
 
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It's too bad that Intel isn't releasing a lower-end quad-core part, say a Q6200 or Q4400 or something. Quad-core at 1.8Ghz, overclockable to ???. That would be really awesome, especially if it were lower-cost.
 
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jkresh

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I think 260 for a quad core is pretty incredible considering the first desktop quad core is int even 1 year old and was over $1000 at list (and that the 250 one was 850 a few months ago). As it is quad core is still a niche market and if they released one that was 150 or 200 but at 1.8ghz it would confuse people (they might buy it because quad core is better when for the average user a 2.4/2.6 dual core would be much faster). Its even more impressive when you consider that they have no quad core desktop competition until December (assuming Barcelona is on time). I am generally pro AMD and always pro competition so hopefully amd gets some barcelona benches out before this price drop suggesting a significant increase in speed (and not just clock for clock but some kind of overclockability because that 2.4 should hit 3+ easily so ...) then i will wait,otherwise it will be hard to pass up (just move the e6600 into another box).
 
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Originally posted by: derdrache
AHHHHHHHH. why oh why couldn't intel make the FSB just a mere 4mhz faster. WHY!!!!!!!!!!

Forget intel until they get me that 4mhz fsb.

lets go from 1333 to 1337 =P
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You can always OC to 1337 speeds. :)
 
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The low price on the Q6600 makes me think that Intel has a lot up their sleeve for the Penryn launch later this year. It's so cheap, surely what they have coming must be even faster to keep the Q6600 from cutting in to higher end sales.
 
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What's the Q6600 overclocking to, typically? Like most folks, I got an easy 3.2GHz out of my E6400 (didnt' try for more). Even with a quad core, I'd like to get near 3.2GHz as 99% of games don't even take advantage of dual core yet. Thinking Quad for UT2K7. :cool:
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: programmer
Sounds great! But is there DDR2 RAM that will run fast enough for the 1333 bus? Would that be PC6400 or PC8000? Or something faster required?? I am out of the loop on the bus speeds/mem. dividers/etc. on DDR2.

Can't wait to get a E6750 for $183!
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DDR2-667(PC5300) = 1:1 with 1333mhz FSB..ram is double pumped, FSB is quad pumped. 1333mhz FSB =333.33x4..333.33x2=667mhz DDR2
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
What's the Q6600 overclocking to, typically? Like most folks, I got an easy 3.2GHz out of my E6400 (didnt' try for more). Even with a quad core, I'd like to get near 3.2GHz as 99% of games don't even take advantage of dual core yet. Thinking Quad for UT2K7. :cool:
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My Q6600 is running at 3.1ghz, same as my E6600 was running at( I think it's my motherboard limiting me since they both lost stabilty at the same place), most of what I have seen they are hitting the 3.0-3.2ghz range pretty consistantly as well. As for advantages..well at least I can run F@H x 4, the other 2 cores pretty much go to waste for anything else I do.
 
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MichaelD

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Thanks, stevty2889. What multi x FSB are you running? The nice thing about the E6400 is that I'm using happy, stable stock dividers (8x400). Everything in spec. I prefer to do it that way with any overclock...safer that way.
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Thanks, stevty2889. What multi x FSB are you running? The nice thing about the E6400 is that I'm using happy, stable stock dividers (8x400). Everything in spec. I prefer to do it that way with any overclock...safer that way.
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I'm running at 9x345, with memory slightly overclocked as well(690 vs 667 stock). Even if I underclock the mem and no matter how much voltage I feed the CPU, can't seem to keep 100% stable past about 345mhz FSB.
 
lopri

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
What's the Q6600 overclocking to, typically? Like most folks, I got an easy 3.2GHz out of my E6400 (didnt' try for more). Even with a quad core, I'd like to get near 3.2GHz as 99% of games don't even take advantage of dual core yet. Thinking Quad for UT2K7. :cool:
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It really depends. Just like dual-core CPUs, the CPU as a whole is only as good as the 'lesser' core, and with 4 cores there is double the chance of having a 'dud' core. ;) I would think 2.8~3.0GHz is a reasonable expectation and 3.2~3.3GHz is do-able with a very good HSF and airflow. Up to 3.4~3.5GHz with a very good water cooling and some luck. :D E6400 @3.20GHz didn't heat up past 50C inside a case but Q6600 @3.20GHz heats up to 62~65C outside a case with a very good heatsink and a 1800RPM fan (mine, that is).

One of the useful measures of determining a 'typical' overclocking potential of a certain chip is to look at the top-binned SKUs in the same family. (Conroe is an exception because its brand-new architecture totally out-matched competition and therefore there was no need for Intel to release a faster SKU) Remember that the Q6600 and Q6700 are the same thing, just binned differently. Knowing that the fastest current quad-core from Intel is running @3.0GHz, that would be where most Kentsfield chips have a 'potential' to reach.
 
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MichaelD

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Thanks much for your info, Stevty2889.

Lopri: Great reply. :beer: You're right; the top-SKU is about where you'll reach if you're lucky.

It's been awhile since I've been "deeply" into the overclocking world. I built my current C2D system last October...did the research, bought the parts, OC'd it and it's been that way since. Gotta love a stable overclock. Free MHz FTW! :D

We'll see what the price drop looks like when it happens. I obviously don't NEED quad core. Then again, that whole WANT thing comes into play...frequently. :evil:
 
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HopJokey

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Originally posted by: DasFox
What are the E6600 going to be priced at?

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It looks like the E6600 will be phased out on July 22. It will be replaced by the 2.33Ghz, 1333FSB E6550 @ $133. There is also the 2.66Ghz, 1333FSB E6750 @ $183 and the 3.0Ghz E6850 @ $266 (same as 2.4 Ghz Q6600).
 
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Originally posted by: HopJokey
Originally posted by: DasFox
What are the E6600 going to be priced at?

ALOHA
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It looks like the E6600 will be phased out on July 22. It will be replaced by the 2.33Ghz, 1333FSB E6550 @ $133. There is also the 2.66Ghz, 1333FSB E6750 @ $183 and the 3.0Ghz E6850 @ $266 (same as 2.4 Ghz Q6600).
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Yeah I forgot, when I saw that E6850, I was drooling.... ;)

I think that's the beast I want. :)

ALOHA
 
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