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Intel Releases Core i7-3820

My conclusion is the same as the authors. Unless you need, tons of memory bandwidth, PCIe 3.0 or 32gb+ ram, your better off with 1155 and a 2600k.
 
Best part about this processor is how it doesn't make to much sense.

$300 gets you a 2600k that overclocks better while being on a lower tdp while also having a unlocked multiplier.
 
skipsneeky2 said:
Best part about this processor is how it doesn't make to much sense.

$300 gets you a 2600k that overclocks better while being on a lower tdp while also having a unlocked multiplier.
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You don't need to have an unlocked multiplier for this chip as BCLK overclocking is allowed.
 
Actually isn't the 3820 a little cheaper than a 2600k

3820 is like 299
2600k is like 350

or so maybe iono I do still completely agree that a X79 setup isn't really worth it unless you want a lot of ram or pci 3.0
 
skipsneeky2 said:
Best part about this processor is how it doesn't make to much sense.

$300 gets you a 2600k that overclocks better while being on a lower tdp while also having a unlocked multiplier.
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the way intel does its tdp is weird sometimes,they use a high number and just list a bunch of chips and the fastest clocked ones still dont even hit it because intel listed it xxx for plans to add more cores down the road for oems,like all these sandy e chips are all really 8 core cpus with some cores turned off.

this is a good buy for someone that wants to upgrade to x79 and will wait for ivy e next year while paying a little for a cpu to get him on the platform.If I didnt have a 1155 setup I would go x79 and get one of these and wait for a 8 core ivy to replace it.
 
skipsneeky2 said:
Best part about this processor is how it doesn't make to much sense.

$300 gets you a 2600k that overclocks better while being on a lower tdp while also having a unlocked multiplier.
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-not sure about you but I can't find any oc benches on these chips [retail M1]
-as low oc's on 4 month old M0 ES samples dose not make a good case of which one is better.
- could turn out to be the es and retail are = but to me it's to early to tell.
 
Fantazn said:
Actually isn't the 3820 a little cheaper than a 2600k

3820 is like 299
2600k is like 350

or so maybe iono I do still completely agree that a X79 setup isn't really worth it unless you want a lot of ram or pci 3.0
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Exactly.....I'd like to say this reduces some drawbacks, making a X79 computer not that expensive.

But I still prefer waiting for IVY..
 
Trading my 2500K in for a 3820. I already have mine ordered.

I am just using this to get onto the X79 platform and then drop in a IB-E when they are released. And I can sell my 2500K and MB so this upgrade will only cost me a few bucks.
 
Fantazn said:
Actually isn't the 3820 a little cheaper than a 2600k

3820 is like 299
2600k is like 350

or so maybe iono I do still completely agree that a X79 setup isn't really worth it unless you want a lot of ram or pci 3.0
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3820 is around $300-$325 right now, and the 3770K competitor will be priced around $350-$375. So yes the 3770K will be $50 more, but it's going to clock higher, and have an extra 6-10% clock for clock advantage on top of that. And you'll be able to do that on a $150 Z68/Z77 motherboard, versus a $250+ X79. So the 3770K setup will actually end up cheaper. The existence of the 3820 doesn't make much sense to me.
 
Doesn't to me either. They need to be giving us a 3990k (6 core, 3.8ghz w/ 4.2ghz boost or something) instead. As well as an 8 core version of the 3930 or the 3960 (clocked a little lower).

The only reason to get a 3820, IMO, is to get into the platform before IB-E. Problem is that by time IB-E drops, Haswell will be there or right around the corner. So the longevity is a big unknown, IMO.
 
njdevilsfan87 said:
3820 is around $300-$325 right now, and the 3770K competitor will be priced around $350-$375. So yes the 3770K will be $50 more, but it's going to clock higher, and have an extra 6-10% clock for clock advantage on top of that. And you'll be able to do that on a $150 Z68/Z77 motherboard, versus a $250+ X79. So the 3770K setup will actually end up cheaper. The existence of the 3820 doesn't make much sense to me.
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Its a cheap way to get people the features of X79. Whats hard for people to understand?
 
There's little point in this part. Clock-for-clock it's no faster than 1155 i7s, and it actually costs more because of the platform. To get an X79 motherboard that's comparable in features to its P67 counterpart you have to pay about $75 more, and if you want features like eight DIMM slots you have to be ready to pay over $100 more. Quad-channel memory is obviously 2x more expensive than dual-channel, too.

The only way this processor makes sense to buy is if you're doing professional video or photo editing and therefore need more RAM support, if you're running multiple VMs, OR if you'll be using many RAID cards or something like a Radeon HD 7970 in CrossFire since running it on PCIe 2.0 x8 means a penalty in some games of 10-15% in comparison to 3.0 x8 or 2.0 x16. Otherwise, better to get the 2600K. It'll be cheaper upfront, cheaper to run (consumes less power), and you'll be getting the same performance if you were thinking of OCing.

By the time someone with a 3820 would be looking for an upgrade, which would probably be two years or more from now, Haswell and Haswell-E would have arrived. Buying this chip because of the "future-proofing" of the platform is not very smart, IMO.
 
gmaster456 said:
Its a cheap way to get people the features of X79. Whats hard for people to understand?
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Which almost no one will use, to be honest. And it's not cheap, either. It'll cost you anywhere from $100 to $150 for that platform in comparison to P67.

There are reasons for going with X79, but in reality for even the majority of enthusiasts they're not worth it... not unless you're running extremely high-end GPUs, multiple RAID cards, or doing photo/video encoding. Most enthusiasts don't need those, so there's not much incentive to pay more for X79.
 
It just illustrates how poor of a choice going mainstream before enthusiast is. The "enthusiast" platform isn't enough of an improvement to warrant a purchase, and the soon to follow next generation mainstream product is typically a better buy.

It's even worse on the server side. We don't even have SB based Xeons except for on the low end quad core space.
 
Little point in dogging the platform, processor, or those who buy it. The price to performance ratio is paramount to many, but not all. Excess spending allowed here.. 😛
 
Newegg and Microcenter both charging $320. That's disappointing. Almost no cost savings over a 2600k.
 
If you purchase it with a motherboard combo, they knock off $20, making it $299.
 
LOL_Wut_Axel said:
False. The 3820 is the same speed as the 2600K clock-for-clock, and on average they OC very similar.
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It could have better multithreaded performance. Reviews were showing it behind slightly on single threaded loads. 3820 and 2600k are not the same speed, at least according to reviews its a bit slower.
 
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