Intel Quad Core Kentsfield and Clovertown pulled into a Q4 Launch

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: TuxDave
So you save $150-200 off of a $1000 extreme edition processor. That's still more than I'm willing to spend.

I am praying Intel releases at least 3 models of Quad Core. Though I am not holding my breath. :frown:

 

[HostofFun]

Who said I was going to buy it at $1000? I meant that since the release is moved up, I will be able to afford it sooner, and with the info from Anandtech and forums that the P5W-DH Deluxe is compatible with Kentsfield but OC's to about 430-450ish normally, I find the E6400 to be a good deal. Once the Kentsfield hits $500 or so (which will be sooner by far since it's being released several months early) I will use the extra cash I saved to help pay for it. I don't know why this needed to be explained... I thought it was pretty obvious in my other post .

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: HostofFun

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: inspire
This would be a siler bullet for AMD, but it will come at the cost of Conroe sales - who's going to buy Conroe if Kentsfield is less than six months out?

Kentsfield replaces the extreme edition of conroe processors and I for one do not value computers enough to purchase a such a premium processor.

It's enough for me to switch my E6600 pre-order to E6400, so I save $150-200 or so over my E6600 pre-order toward a Kentsfield. Since they weren't slated to even launch until likely late Q1 2007, and now are slated for sometime in Q4 2006, I imagine they'll introduce lower-priced models by then. I'm sure an 8x multiplier E6400 with a 400-430 FSB could tide me over just fine .

So you save $150-200 off of a $1000 extreme edition processor. That's still more than I'm willing to spend.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: HostofFun
Who said I was going to buy it at $1000? I meant that since the release is moved up, I will be able to afford it sooner, and with the info from Anandtech and forums that the P5W-DH Deluxe is compatible with Kentsfield but OC's to about 430-450ish normally, I find the E6400 to be a good deal. Once the Kentsfield hits $500 or so (which will be sooner by far since it's being released several months early) I will use the extra cash I saved to help pay for it. I don't know why this needed to be explained... I thought it was pretty obvious in my other post .

What's the pricing history of extreme edition cores? I don't think Intel's planning to mainstream Kentsfield and phase out dual core processors. So back with the Dual Core extreme edition processors (the ones with HT?), how long did it take before it dropped from $1K to $500?

 

[Pederv]

Intel probably found out that a dual Clovertown system out performs or comes close to a quad dual core Opteron system. Unless Intel is ahead of schedule on ramp up and will be at more than 25% of production, by the end of the year, Conroes could be diverted from the desktop market to produce more Clovertowns.

 

[wackypete]

What socket will Kentsfield use?

 

[CyborgNinja117]

Originally posted by: wackypete
What socket will Kentsfield use?

LGA 775, heard that all kentsfield can work on conroe ready mobos.

 

[Duvie]

I wil buy one when they come out...i would like to get the server one so perhaps 2 of them gives me 8 cores...fantasy aside I have yet to find too mnay things that use 4 cores effectively other then doing mutiple SMT aware apps

 

[imported_burningrave101]

Originally posted by: Xentropy

Originally posted by: Zekey
You just hear that? Intel says Core 2 Duo will be fully stocked in the retail channel at launch. BS or not? We shall see.

Yep I just came here to post that. I'm sure it isn't BS, as if it were, there would be huge backlash from lying in a conference call. I think the fact that some people have already bought Conroes from some channel distributers proves the channel is being filled as he said.

He also characterized the Core architecture's ramp as "much faster" than Netburst. IIRC the P3->P4 shift took about a year, so we should see almost entirely Cores by the end of Q1'07 with all the P-D's out of the channel. Nice.

If thats true then it will be the complete opposite of what Intel has been showing in slides and interviews up to this point. Intel plans were to be shipping around 20-25% Conroe based processors by the end of the 4th quarter. The slides also showed around 12% for the end of the third quarter. The Pentium 4/D line was shown to still make up the largest majority of processors shipped until Q1 2007 as production started to ramp further. All of Intel's distributors have been showing August and September ETA's for orders up to this point as well. I'm sure there will be some availability at launch but with the large number going to the OEM's i don't see Conroe being widely available and priced around MSRP at launch next week. I'm trying to watch out how the next few days play out though as i have a few on pre-order and i don't want to order several at above MSRP if they are going to be available in retail channels at lower prices but other then an optimistic Intel CEO i havn't seen much to suggest this wide availability for the first month or two at least. I don't think Intel would admit to a shortage in retail channels now anyways because it would cause people to start to look elsewhere like at AMD's major price cuts on the AM2 line.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I'm guessing you missed the interview? I forget how many millions they had of inventory, but I'm almost positive that Core architecture processors make up 200 million of that. This 'could' be just saving face in front of stock holders, but where's the benifit? You fool the stockholders for ONE WEEK.....hmmmm. I think Intel's CEO is smarter than that. Well, at least I hope.

 

[Homerboy]

Posted on DT too: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3421

 

[DeathReborn]

From that DailyTech article:

In late May, Intel announced that the company will ship a 3.2GHz Core 2 Extreme processor followed by quad-core Kentsfield in Q1'07. Kentsfield has always been slated as an Extreme processor, meaning it will carry a larger price tag than the traditional Core 2 Duo series.

That tells me that the 3,2GHz Core 2 Duo will be the $1,000 CPU and Kentsfield $1,200+ or the 3.2GHz won't be an Extreme.

It fits into my upgrade timescale but i'm not overly keen on "glued together" CPU's. I prefer something native.

 

[tommo123]

so, the current conroe boards will support intels quad core chips for the end of this year?

i thought intels performance in this area wasnt that hot?

 

[evilbix]

I think Intel is really trying to push AMD out of the market. Launching all these superior chips in such a short period of time.

Opty and X2 don't stand a chance right now. AMD is gonna take a huge hit on their chips to keep them moving. If they don't come up with something quick they are going to be in a lot of trouble. I hope this isn't the case. Although, I've never owned an AMD chip, they are the reason why the consumer is making out like a bandit right now.

 

[kknd1967]

THG just post a "price cut plan" for AMD to be competitive.
THG link